1. #68521
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    QAnon "shaman" asks Trump for pardon.

    Also announces plans to reroll warlock.

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    This OP ED brings up two interesting points.

    1) McConnell would want at least 68 votes if he wants Trump convicted, that way, no individual Senator is "the vote that convicted".

    2) Far more realistically, McConnell and the Republican Party could choose not to convict, but re-write the primary rules to block Trump more directly. The main benefit of impeaching Trump, to McConnell, is to keep Trump from running again and losing like he lost in 2020, and dragging other Republicans down to loser town with him. If he doesn't feel like impeachment is the way to go, for example, if he's worried about being beaten to death by Trump supporters, he (and other Republicans) could be far more subtle, and reword the rules while nobody's looking. Something along the lines of "anyone who ran and lost doesn't get another chance, looking at you Romney".

    The idea is to return the rabid fanbase to the voter's booth and pressing the R button. As such, pushing Trump away as gentle as possible is mandatory. As we've seen, Trump can and has inspired his voters to commit murderous insurrection when he claimed the election was stolen when it wasn't. Locking him out aggressively won't help. Asking him nicely won't work. So unless Trump is arrested or dies, they'll need something to keep him from running without creating a Twitter shitst...oh, right. Without going on TV and blasting every Republican as a traitor to a party that no longer exists.

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    Cohen is planning to publish a bound collection of Congressional reports (which are not protected by copyright since by definition they belong to the people) and sell it as a book. The topic is, of course, the historic second impeachment of Trump, due to his direct instigation of murderous insurrection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    4,069 deaths.
    This remains a heartbreaking tragedy, but it's actually even worse.



    The scarring done to lung tissue is also horrifying.

  2. #68522
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Far more realistically, McConnell and the Republican Party could choose not to convict, but re-write the primary rules to block Trump more directly. The main benefit of impeaching Trump, to McConnell, is to keep Trump from running again and losing like he lost in 2020, and dragging other Republicans down to loser town with him. If he doesn't feel like impeachment is the way to go, for example, if he's worried about being beaten to death by Trump supporters, he (and other Republicans) could be far more subtle, and reword the rules while nobody's looking. Something along the lines of "anyone who ran and lost doesn't get another chance, looking at you Romney".

    The idea is to return the rabid fanbase to the voter's booth and pressing the R button. As such, pushing Trump away as gentle as possible is mandatory. As we've seen, Trump can and has inspired his voters to commit murderous insurrection when he claimed the election was stolen when it wasn't. Locking him out aggressively won't help. Asking him nicely won't work. So unless Trump is arrested or dies, they'll need something to keep him from running without creating a Twitter shitst...oh, right. Without going on TV and blasting every Republican as a traitor to a party that no longer exists.
    Trump would run as an independent in a heart beat. In fact I predict Trump will run as a third party candidate and blast the Republicans for being weak (FOX) while he is the true conservative brand (Newsmax/Qanon)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    QAnon "shaman" asks Trump for pardon.

    Also announces plans to reroll warlock.
    Damn... I wish I said that... noice...
    As above, so below.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    This remains a heartbreaking tragedy, but it's actually even worse.



    The scarring done to lung tissue is also horrifying.
    I couldn't finish the article. I don't know what percentage of asymptomatic virus cases end up with Covid Lung. I hope it's a very small percentage. I've heard first hand stories of people in their 30s that before getting the virus they were quite athletic, and afterwards could only walk like from the living room to the kitchen before being out of breath. I hope its a very low percentage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    QAnon "shaman" asks Trump for pardon.

    Also announces plans to reroll warlock.
    Dark lords don't care about minions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    This OP ED brings up two interesting points.

    1) McConnell would want at least 68 votes if he wants Trump convicted, that way, no individual Senator is "the vote that convicted".

    2) Far more realistically, McConnell and the Republican Party could choose not to convict, but re-write the primary rules to block Trump more directly. The main benefit of impeaching Trump, to McConnell, is to keep Trump from running again and losing like he lost in 2020, and dragging other Republicans down to loser town with him. If he doesn't feel like impeachment is the way to go, for example, if he's worried about being beaten to death by Trump supporters, he (and other Republicans) could be far more subtle, and reword the rules while nobody's looking. Something along the lines of "anyone who ran and lost doesn't get another chance, looking at you Romney".

    The idea is to return the rabid fanbase to the voter's booth and pressing the R button. As such, pushing Trump away as gentle as possible is mandatory. As we've seen, Trump can and has inspired his voters to commit murderous insurrection when he claimed the election was stolen when it wasn't. Locking him out aggressively won't help. Asking him nicely won't work. So unless Trump is arrested or dies, they'll need something to keep him from running without creating a Twitter shitst...oh, right. Without going on TV and blasting every Republican as a traitor to a party that no longer exists.
    He's lucky he's not in Russia where people vanish or get poisoned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega10 View Post
    I couldn't finish the article. I don't know what percentage of asymptomatic virus cases end up with Covid Lung. I hope it's a very small percentage. I've heard first hand stories of people in their 30s that before getting the virus they were quite athletic, and afterwards could only walk like from the living room to the kitchen before being out of breath. I hope its a very low percentage.
    70 to 80 percent

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    Quote Originally Posted by dextersmith View Post
    Dark lords don't care about minions.



    He's lucky he's not in Russia where people vanish or get poisoned.
    Don't forget how lethal windows tend to be over there too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bladeXcrasher View Post
    70 to 80 percent
    Important thing to note, lungs can heal. It takes time.
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    Important thing to note, lungs can heal. It takes time.
    If I remember correctly, smoker's lung heals in roughly 7 years with 90% or so of the damage healed. Presumably healing continues even after that just at a slower rate.

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    I’ve been smoke free (apart from two cigarettes) for the best part of a year now. Recently started working out again after having to take time out for medical reasons. I swear, the first two weeks my lungs felt like they were gonna collapse. Even now I have to kinda pace myself into it. I regret ever starting to smoke, so I can’t imagine how non-smokers with the after effects of COVID feel. It’s a shitty fucking feeling, running out of air.

  11. #68531
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    2) Far more realistically, McConnell and the Republican Party could choose not to convict, but re-write the primary rules to block Trump more directly. The main benefit of impeaching Trump, to McConnell, is to keep Trump from running again and losing like he lost in 2020, and dragging other Republicans down to loser town with him. If he doesn't feel like impeachment is the way to go, for example, if he's worried about being beaten to death by Trump supporters, he (and other Republicans) could be far more subtle, and reword the rules while nobody's looking. Something along the lines of "anyone who ran and lost doesn't get another chance, looking at you Romney".
    The problem with rewriting the primary rules is that it only stops Trump from running in 2024 as a Republican. Throwing up the possibility of him running as a third party(*) and splitting the Republican vote. Conviction as a result of Impeachment takes him out of the equation entirely.

    (*) Or threatening to run as a third party to force the Republican donors to pay him off to stay out of it, whichever is the more profitable grift.
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  12. #68532
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Also announces plans to reroll warlock.
    Smart. With the corruption legendary he could easily escape next time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Omega10 View Post
    If I remember correctly, smoker's lung heals in roughly 7 years with 90% or so of the damage healed. Presumably healing continues even after that just at a slower rate.
    That is my understanding, at least somewhere around that time frame. I'll...I'll stay inside, thanks.

  13. #68533
    Quote Originally Posted by bladeXcrasher View Post
    70 to 80 percent
    Are you just fear-mongering or do have any source for that?

    The first estimate I found was 8% had severe case of covid-lung (but it seems likely that even that is an over-estimate; since it seems possible that the study missed asymptomatic cases and they probably are less likely to develop ARDS):
    https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...g-term-effects

    30% had lung problems for Sars and Mers https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3001

    And the effect often seems to disappear after a few months "At the time the patients (who had been severely hit by Covid and in ICU) were discharged from the hospital, 88 percent had lung damage, but 12 weeks later, only 56 percent did." - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/18/h...-recovery.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    The problem with rewriting the primary rules is that it only stops Trump from running in 2024 as a Republican. Throwing up the possibility of him running as a third party(*) and splitting the Republican vote. Conviction as a result of Impeachment takes him out of the equation entirely.
    Yeah, McConnell should be thinking about a split vote, Republican/Party of Trump.

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    Well, that just means the Trump Crumbling Wall will have to be named something else.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ce/ar-BB1cMVc6

    Dems Plan Legislation To Prevent Anything From Being Named After Trump After He Leaves Office

    In a true example of a penalty precisely tailored to enrage its recipient, California Democratic Congresswoman Linda T. Sánchez told reporters that she will be introducing legislation that would prohibit government property from being named after Donald Trump once he leaves office.

    “I am working on a bill that would mean that nothing — not even a bench, no airport, no highway, no school — nothing – ever bear the name of this traitor,” Sánchez told People Magazine.

    In a blog post, Sánchez recalled her thoughts the night before the January 6th attack on the Capitol building. ” [N]erves were on edge and all eyes were on Washington,” wrote Sánchez. While Congress convened to certified the votes of the election, things, “felt different,” she noted. “Thinking of my friend, Gabby Giffords, I called my husband Tuesday night and told him where my will could be found if the unimaginable happened.”

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    In a true example of a penalty precisely tailored to enrage its recipient, California Democratic Congresswoman Linda T. Sánchez told reporters that she will be introducing legislation that would prohibit government property from being named after Donald Trump once he leaves office.

    “I am working on a bill that would mean that nothing — not even a bench, no airport, no highway, no school — nothing – ever bear the name of this traitor,” Sánchez told People Magazine.

    In a blog post, Sánchez recalled her thoughts the night before the January 6th attack on the Capitol building. ” [N]erves were on edge and all eyes were on Washington,” wrote Sánchez. While Congress convened to certified the votes of the election, things, “felt different,” she noted. “Thinking of my friend, Gabby Giffords, I called my husband Tuesday night and told him where my will could be found if the unimaginable happened.”

    Sánchez, recalling the shocking events of January 6th, continued:

    “This time was different, for sure. The President of the United States invited white supremacists, conspiracy theorist believers, militia members, and anti-government extremists to Washington, D.C.. The President incited an insurrection against not just the United States Capitol buildings, but against the very symbol of our democracy.”

    It is because of Trump’s involvement and inciting insurrection, says Sánchez, that he should relinquish any and all benefits usually conferred upon former presidents.

    Sánchez represents California’s 38th District. She is a California native, a lawyer, and the daughter of Mexican immigrants.

    Texas Congressman Joaquin Castro, also a Democrat, has similarly announced plans to formalize a prohibition against naming things after Trump.

    https://twitter.com/JoaquinCastrotx/...aves-office%2F

    Castro warned that “Donald Trump should never become a future generation’s confederate symbol.”

    Castro was named on January 12 as an impeachment manager for Donald Trump’s second impeachment trial.

    The push to squash efforts to cement Trump’s legacy likely transcends mere sensationalism. In the past, Republican presidents have enjoyed naming rights on hundreds of projects, often thanks to advocacy groups who lobby for the honor. While former Democratic presidents have shared in name-saking to some degree, it has recently been to a lesser extent as compared with their Republican counterparts.

    The suggestion that America might want to re-think its usual policy of naming everything from to libraries to submarines to lizards after past presidents in the context of Trump isn’t a new one. However, a prohibition against this kind of typical presidential tribute would have particular significance when it comes to this president. Trump, heir to his family’s real-estate development business, is unquestionably a titan in the world of self-branding; he has licensed his name for decades, often drawing criticism for displaying his name on structures that he neither owns nor built. Even before officially conceding the 2020 election, Trump was asking which things could be named after him upon his departure.

  16. #68536
    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    Well, that just means the Trump Crumbling Wall will have to be named something else.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ce/ar-BB1cMVc6
    Does that mean there'll be a Drumpf tower?

  17. #68537
    Quote Originally Posted by Demolitia View Post
    Does that mean there'll be a Drumpf tower?
    Only pertains to government buildings I'm afraid. So this means there literally could not be a Trump Presidential Library.

  18. #68538
    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    Only pertains to government buildings I'm afraid. So this means there literally could not be a Trump Presidential Library.
    I guess we'll have to wait for Deutsche Bank to call it as collateral when he can't pay the 300 millions back. I hope they have a sense of humor

  19. #68539
    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    So this means there literally could not be a Trump Presidential Library.
    Who wants to go read a bunch of printed out tweets, anyways? I mean, I don't think he's even picked out a location for it. Probably in part because he doesn't know what the fuck a library is.

  20. #68540
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Who wants to go read a bunch of printed out tweets, anyways? I mean, I don't think he's even picked out a location for it. Probably in part because he doesn't know what the fuck a library is.
    Well, to be fair, every President generally gets a chance at a library. Because it is filled with coloring books(with things not colored in the lines) and ragetweets doesn't make it any less of a library. It will just be a library for Trump's "Special people". Anyway, the tweets, I think, have to be saved in the National Archives anyway. Imagine that job.

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