Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Ripster42]

Gotcha... although I don't think Greenwald is even that. he seems more like someone who just wants to stir shit for profit.

Gee, wonder why theo quotes him all the time.

[Breccia]

Gee, after screwing Giuliani?

Is that why he was leaking? Eww.

It's not Giuliani, though. Well okay some, but not all.

Trump's legal team was pushing conspiracy theories, true, but they were hired to do that. You can't challenge an election by saying "it was all honest and legal and passed every safety check, but we still want it thrown out". If anything, Trump firing or distancing from them would make him a better client. Lawyers aren't taking this case because it would damage their reputation, they'd probably have no say in whether they win/lose (that's partisan politics) and they probably wouldn't get paid.

Which is the screwing you meant, of course.

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Well, let's take a look at our good friends at FOX News.

Graham releases Russia probe docs, slams original investigation as 'incompetent, corrupt'

Yep, their top headline is an exclusive, since nobody else would be running with this. Graham is still screaming into the wind that Trump got caught colluding with Russia and is desperate to change the narrative from "Trump is incompetent and is killing people". But this? It's like he's peeing into a hurricane at this point.

[Machismo]

Gee, wonder why theo quotes him all the time.

Probably for the same reason she constantly plagiarizes... she's a devout Trumpste4 shill.

[Xyonai]

Remember when a certain group of people freaked the fuck out over 4 people dying to something "preventable"

I've said this a dozen times but: Man, it's almost like a certain group of people actually don't believe in anything unless it benefits them to do so.

[Breccia]

Just in case you thought supporting Trump couldn't be less effectie.

NRA files for bankruptcy

The NRA, which is based in New York, said it's exiting “what it believes is a corrupt political and regulatory environment in New York” and will restructure as a Texas nonprofit. Its plan, it said, “involves utilizing the protection of the bankruptcy court.”

“The move will enable long-term, sustainable growth and ensure the NRA’s continued success as the nation’s leading advocate for constitutional freedom – free from the toxic political environment of New York,” the NRA said in a statement.


The NRA also claims it is in its “strongest financial condition in years” and said there will be no immediate changes to its operations or workforce. Texas is home to more than 400,000 NRA members and the group is holding its annual meeting in Houston in 2021.

“This strategic plan represents a pathway to opportunity, growth and progress,” NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre said in a statement. “Obviously an important part of this plan is ‘dumping New York.’ The NRA is pursuing reincorporating in a state that values the contributions of the NRA, celebrates our law-abiding members, and will join us as a partner in upholding constitutional freedom. This is a transformational moment in the history of the NRA.”

Yeah, do you know what I do when I'm in the strongest financial situation in years?

File for bankruptcy and flee town.

[bladeXcrasher]

Are you just fear-mongering or do have any source for that?

The first estimate I found was 8% had severe case of covid-lung (but it seems likely that even that is an over-estimate; since it seems possible that the study missed asymptomatic cases and they probably are less likely to develop ARDS):
https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...g-term-effects

30% had lung problems for Sars and Mers https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3001

And the effect often seems to disappear after a few months "At the time the patients (who had been severely hit by Covid and in ICU) were discharged from the hospital, 88 percent had lung damage, but 12 weeks later, only 56 percent did." - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/18/h...-recovery.html

It's in the article that was posted. You could have saved yourself the time and read it.

[Dead Moose Fandango]

Aaaaand in a big surprise, remember those second doses of the Covid vaccine that people were going to get? They don't exist. It's almost like everything from Trump's run as president is half-assed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...serve-used-up/

Edited in the link from Washington Post I forgot to add.

[masterhorus8]

Aaaaand in a big surprise, remember those second doses of the Covid vaccine that people were going to get? They don't exist. It's almost like everything from Trump's run as president is half-assed.

....What what now...? Were they just handed out with 0 regard for the second dose?

[Forogil]

It's in the article that was posted. You could have saved yourself the time and read it.

That link wasn't that visible and my conclusion after reading the other articles is still that it is fear-mongering; when more health-interested indicate substantially lower values.

I saved myself time by reading more serious articles.

[Edge-]

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/15/p...gon/index.html

Acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller, who will leave office in less than a week. stated that he 'cannot wait to leave this job," according to a transcript released by the Department of Defense.

The admission, during a press gaggle Thursday on his way back from a trip to Nebraska, Tennessee and Colorado, was one of a number of stunning statements from the man President Donald Trump picked to take over the position just over two months ago.

The comments came the same day the Pentagon said at least 21,000 National Guard are being mobilized in Washington, DC, amid security concerns around next week's inauguration following the deadly riots at the Capitol.

Miller was asked about the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF), a fifth-generation fighter jet considered the most expensive weapons program in history used by the Air Force, Marines and Navy. After clarifying that the question is about the F-35 and not a different weapons system, Miller begins his answer by saying, "I so...I mean, I cannot wait to leave this job, believe me."

He then apparently went on to disparage the latest American fighter jet, saying, "Yesterday we were talking to some guy, some lieutenant colonel, or colonel, said 'what are you flying?' Said 'F-35,' I was like that's a piece of ... and he was like ... and he laughed, and I was like, 'No seriously, tell me about it.'"

"I'm like, we have created a monster, but you know that," he concludes.

When asked what he wanted to see from Northern Command next week, Miller gave a meandering response that comes across as incoherent at times. "Uh, I needed to look the commander in the eye, because, you know, the President, SecDef, me ... I, whatever the correct English is, you guys can clean that up. Should have paid more attention in high school. My wife would be ashamed of me not knowing the proper preposition—and then, uh General VanHerck. So, you know, you just, I said it before, you can have [video tele-conferences] all day long, you know, but you wanna, like, I wanted to look the guy in the eye and get a sense for his soul and I think he probably needed to do that for me as well," Miller said.

Miller became the acting secretary of defense when Trump fired Mark Esper via Twitter on November 9, two days after Joe Biden was declared the winner of the Presidential election.

Like, acting, like, defense, like, secretary, like, Miller is totally, like, not a valley girl.

Only the best people!

[TigTone]

....What what now...? Were they just handed out with 0 regard for the second dose?

They assumed trump administration was going to suddenly become competent.

And here I was celebrating a bit to hear that my Gma can finally get a vaccine. Now there is none to give at least not for a while.

[jonnysensible]

NRA gone bankrupt, silver linings.

[wunksta]

Mike Pence calls Kamala Harris to congratulate her and offer help - but Trump still hasn’t contacted Biden

The phone call, which is the first time the pair has spoken since the vice presidential debate last year, was described by officials as “gracious and pleasant”, reports the New York Times.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1788103.html

Looks like Mike Pence swallowed his pride and has moved on at least.

[Xeones]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1788103.html

Looks like Mike Pence swallowed his pride and has moved on at least.

I imagine hiding in a closet while people chant "HANG MIKE PENCE!" outside it really changes your outlook on life.

[Edge-]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/u...ico-nafta-deal

So how's that USMCA deal goi...

Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador is flouting his country’s obligations under the trade deal that U.S. officials negotiated with Mexico and Canada, according to a new rebuke from President Trump’s team.

“We are obligated to insist that Mexico lives up to its USMCA obligations, in defense of our national interests, which include investments funded by the U.S. taxpayer,” Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, using the acronym for the trade deal, wrote to the Mexican government in a Monday letter obtained by the Washington Examiner.

The dispute centers on Lopez Obrador’s desire to fortify state-run energy companies at the expense of the private sector. That initiative has developed into a trade controversy less than a year after the signing of the replacement pact that Trump touted as a deal to end the “NAFTA nightmare” when it was signed last January.

“He's disregarding the energy component in the USMCA,” said the Heritage Foundation’s Ana Quintana, a senior policy analyst for Latin America.

...oh. Not well...

[Kathranis]

Is that why he was leaking? Eww.

Thanks for the mental image of Trump shooting runny dark brown loads in Giuliani's hair.

[PhaelixWW]

I imagine hiding in a closet while people chant "HANG MIKE PENCE!" outside it really changes your outlook on life.

Apropos...

WaPo: How the rioters who stormed the Capitol came dangerously close to Pence

The violent mob that stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 came perilously close to Vice President Pence, who was not evacuated from the Senate chamber for about 14 minutes after the Capitol Police reported an initial attempted breach of the complex — enough time for the marauders to rush inside the building and approach his location, according to law enforcement officials and video footage from that day.

Secret Service officers eventually spirited Pence to a room off the Senate floor with his wife and daughter after rioters began to pour into the Capitol, many loudly denouncing the vice president as a traitor as they marched through the first floor below the Senate chamber.

About one minute after Pence was hustled out of the chamber, a group charged up the stairs to a second-floor landing in the Senate, chasing a Capitol Police officer who drew them away from the Senate.

Pence and his family had just ducked into a hideaway less than 100 feet from that landing, according to three people familiar with his whereabouts, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation. If the pro-Trump mob had arrived seconds earlier, the attackers would have been in eyesight of the vice president as he was rushed across a reception hall into the office.

[beanman12345]

Just in case you thought supporting Trump couldn't be less effectie.

NRA files for bankruptcy



Yeah, do you know what I do when I'm in the strongest financial situation in years?

File for bankruptcy and flee town.

If that is legal, than yikes.

[Felya]

If that is legal, than yikes.

They are claiming to go none profit... :/

[PhaelixWW]

They are claiming to go none profit... :/

The NRA is already a nonprofit, though the NY AG has a lawsuit pending on their nonprofit status. That's likely why they're looking to move to Texas.