Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Breccia]

Makes me feel so warm inside.

The article says we don't know who made the decision or why. Since Trump isn't scheduled to leave the country, we know that's not it.

[postman1782]

(serious) a bit late, but why did a hardcore republican like Arnold Schwarzenegger publicly denounce and dehumanize Trump a week ago?

This isn't the first time he has done it, and he isn't a hardcore Republican, he is actually smart.

[Breccia]

This is interesting.

The FBI is investigating a foreign investment in the murderous insurrection.

Worth noting: I don't care if the murderous insurrectionists were paid by each other, by Democrats, by France or by Russia. A mercenary who takes money to do the crime, still does the crime. If someone paid them to do it, that's fine, arrrest them too. It's not like it's election fraud.

[For_The_Horde]

This is interesting.

The FBI is investigating a foreign investment in the murderous insurrection.

Worth noting: I don't care if the murderous insurrectionists were paid by each other, by Democrats, by France or by Russia. A mercenary who takes money to do the crime, still does the crime. If someone paid them to do it, that's fine, arrrest them too. It's not like it's election fraud.

Also worth noting: If this group received help from a foreign power to attempt to overthrow the government, it isn't just sedition anymore. That's right, treason is back on the menu.

[Fugus]

This isn't the first time he has done it, and he isn't a hardcore Republican, he is actually smart.

I haven't really paid him much attention in his political field, has he owned up to and apologized to the damage his policies did to California?

[Breccia]

Also worth noting: If this group received help from a foreign power to attempt to overthrow the government, it isn't just sedition anymore. That's right, treason is back on the menu.

Interesting, but wouldn't that require aid and comfort to a foreign enemy? I didn't mention it, but the payments came from a French guy.

[dextersmith]

Good.

I'm cynically hopeful that these challenges will lead to barring him because, despite Florida's Governor being a Trump sycophant, it seems that a lot of rich people don't want Trump living there.

And furthermore, I'd have to think the number of law firms still willing to represent Trump is pretty small.

He's notorious for not paying so why would they?

[Thepersona]

Also worth noting: If this group received help from a foreign power to attempt to overthrow the government, it isn't just sedition anymore. That's right, treason is back on the menu.

So... Breccia, remember a few days ago when u told me what are the penalties for treason?

[Breccia]

So... Breccia, remember a few days ago when u told me what are the penalties for treason?

The ones that rhyme with "hiring squad"?

[Masark]

(serious) a bit late, but why did a hardcore republican like Arnold Schwarzenegger publicly denounce and dehumanize Trump a week ago?

Awareness of his family history is a possibility.

[Breccia]

Selfies, social media posts making it easier for FBI to track down Capitol riot suspects

Yeah, you already know the idea, but it lists specifically how some people documented their trip to the House/Senate and as a result got arrested. That, and posting selfies of themselves committing insurrection (to be fair not the murder so much)

[Kaleredar]

Selfies, social media posts making it easier for FBI to track down Capitol riot suspects

Yeah, you already know the idea, but it lists specifically how some people documented their trip to the House/Senate and as a result got arrested. That, and posting selfies of themselves committing insurrection (to be fair not the murder so much)

Seems like it'd be a pretty slam-dunk conviction, too.

"is this a photo of you in the capitol building on January 6th? "
"Well, yes, but you see I really wanted Trump to win..."
"aaaaaaaand-a guilty as charged. NEXT!"

[Breccia]

"NEXT!"

The QAnon Shaman will be held without bail.

"The charges he faces are serious," prosecutors claimed in court. "Two counts of interfering with law enforcement, aka 'attacking the police', one count of threatening to assassinate a federal elected official, and one count of wearing leather as a mail class."

[Nellise]

Who gets the COVID-19 vaccination first? Only 12 states follow CDC guidelines on the order or priority--This is part of the reason there are shortages of the vaccine all over. While poor federal planning is to blame for a large part of this, state-level administrations are also fucking it up (both GOP AND Dem).

Nearly every state is still in phase 1a, where they're almost all following the recommendations with some minor tweaks in some states. It's only for the next phases that states have said they'll be allowing different groups from the recommendation, but they haven't started that phase yet. So any shortages right now really aren't on the states. The states made those changes assuming they were getting a big increases in doses delivered and only this week found out they were lied to and may have to adjust their plans again (the KFF paper was dated the 11th).

[Gabriel]

(serious) a bit late, but why did a hardcore republican like Arnold Schwarzenegger publicly denounce and dehumanize Trump a week ago?

Because Trump is shit.

[Breccia]

While poor federal planning is to blame for a large part of this, state-level administrations are also fucking it up

I would love to say "well the states took Trump at his word when they said there'd be more vaccines".

But...yeah. Even if that was the case for the other 38 states, simply put, it's four years in and they should have known better than to take Trump at his word. He lies all the time about everything and routinely promised what he could not provide. It's like the old saying, fool me once...I just did that joke, nevermind.

[Kathranis]

(serious) a bit late, but why did a hardcore republican like Arnold Schwarzenegger publicly denounce and dehumanize Trump a week ago?

Schwarzenegger isn't a "hardcore" Republican, he's a moderate. He's from the same old school class of Republicans as Romney, McCain, Bush, etc. (probably even a bit left of them) and the others who hate how Trumpism is warping the GOP.

He's always been opposed to nazism, white nationalism, etc.

This also isn't the first time he's spoken out against Trump. Same for the others I mentioned.

[Thepersona]

The QAnon Shaman will be held without bail.

"The charges he faces are serious," prosecutors claimed in court. "Two counts of interfering with law enforcement, aka 'attacking the police', one count of threatening to assassinate a federal elected official, and one count of wearing leather as a mail class."

Also, using a polearm, when you do not have polearm skill

[Machismo]

(serious) a bit late, but why did a hardcore republican like Arnold Schwarzenegger publicly denounce and dehumanize Trump a week ago?

Well, why wouldn't someone denounce a Nazi like Trump?

[Break The Ice]

(serious) a bit late, but why did a hardcore republican like Arnold Schwarzenegger publicly denounce and dehumanize Trump a week ago?

They're just rinos lashing out after losing their party to real conservatives.