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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Can you imagine how it is for kids turning 16 or 17 right now? For the duration of their cognitive thought, the example of president was Trump. We have a generation that has Trump as majority of their frame of reference, for a president. 2024 will be interesting...
    Hey, at least there's one benefit to it. The past four years have been the single biggest national civics course in US history, so hopefully they at least picked up a few things here and there and don't think that the job of the Press Secretary is to come out, read a statement, insult reporters for a bit, and then fuck off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    It was literally his first day in office. The Obamas had to escort Melania inside because Trump ditched her.
    There’s another one of them getting onto Air Force One (in bad weather) and he ditches her again.
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    Ahhhh, and the post-Residency life starts to go full flair for Trump:

    Trump's entire tax attorney team resigned on the morning of the inauguration - I wonder if they bid their farewells at his 6am JB send off?

    And it looks like federal prosecutors are already in possession of at least some of Trump's financial and tax records, now that Trump's tenure as court-dodger has ended. That's not going to go well.

    Does the United States have an extradition treaty with Florida?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Another of Trump's legacies destroyed.

    Biden's inauguration got higher TV ratings than Trump's did.
    Wait, what?

    BWAHAHAHAHAhaha....

    Hold on, I've got to check his reaction on Twitter...

    ...oh, wait.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


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    "The damage of the Trump administration was extensive...but it's contained."

    Legal Eagle spells out the way Trump's last-minute pardons could have been much worse. He also mentions this article in which Trump was talked out of pardoning his family, because he was told it would lead to obstruction charges against himself.

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    Banks United and Professional Bank, both in Florida, have cut ties with Trump and no longer wish to hold his money for him.

    For a bank to say "We don't want you to invest here" is pretty big. By law, a bank can loan out up to 30 times the amount of cash it has. If Trump had $5 million (that's the low end) that means they could have written $150 million in loans. Assuming they were low-interest mortgages 4% APR, and assuming they only lent half the amount, that's $3 million a year just to park Trump's $5 million. And I lowballed everything.

    But these are mere thorn pricks next to the Deutsche Bank tree about to fall on his house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    -- Donald Trump's last lie in office
    or a horrible admission
    "Law and Order", lots of places have had that, Russia, North Korea, Saddam's Iraq.
    Laws can be made to enforce order of cruelty and brutality.
    Equality and Justice, that is how you have peace and a society that benefits all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Ahhhh, and the post-Residency life starts to go full flair for Trump:

    Trump's entire tax attorney team resigned on the morning of the inauguration - I wonder if they bid their farewells at his 6am JB send off?

    And it looks like federal prosecutors are already in possession of at least some of Trump's financial and tax records, now that Trump's tenure as court-dodger has ended. That's not going to go well.

    Does the United States have an extradition treaty with Florida?
    Makes sense if the State was previously paying them and now Trump has to and they know he doesn't pay so... better quit now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    Makes sense if the State was previously paying them and now Trump has to and they know he doesn't pay so... better quit now.
    Good point - always a good idea to get your money up front.

    I think their fleeing may also be inspired by the fact that Trump is no longer protected by the Office of the President - and any remaining objections/appeals were based solely on that status.

    The larger point here, as well, is that Trump is what we knew/hoped he would be - wide open to a litany of civil and criminal litigation.

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    193,758 new cases, roughly 41k fewer than last Thursday. Nebraska hasn't reported yet but won't add much. Besides, I'm tired.

    Top 10:

    California: 25,135 new cases; 740 deaths (new record)
    Texas: 22,317 new cases; 463 deaths
    New York: 14,057 new cases; 228 deaths
    Fuck Florida.
    Arizona: 9,398 new cases; 244 deaths
    Georgia: 8,150 new cases; 111 deaths
    Ohio: 7,271 new cases; 109 deaths
    North Carolina: 7,187 new cases; 139 deaths
    Pennsylvania: 5,584 new cases; 246 deaths
    Massachusetts: 5,140 new cases; 77 deaths

    New case numbers continue to be consistently lower than last week and it appears they will continue to drop--though perhaps less drastically as time goes on. The down side of the curve is usually flatter than the incline. Good news and I'll keep my fingers crossed that it sticks going into next week. Eventually I might be able to cut this portion of my update down further and just report new flareups as they occur.

    4,363 deaths is about 200 more than last Thursday, bringing the total to 420,285. Unsurprisingly, given their new case numbers for the past few weeks, California is topping the list and accounting for a good portion of those deaths. Given that about 12% of the US population lives there, densely packed, it stands to reason that they're going to see some of the largest numbers. Not unexpected, but still disappointing and grim.

    Related news:

    2020 wasn't 'just a random bad year,' health experts say: COVID-19 made it one of the deadliest in US history--I think I speak for most of us when I say "no shit", but this measurement of "excess deaths" is another bit of ammunition to use against those shitheads who continue to insist that COVID-19 isn't as bad as the media suggests.

    Biden Ramps Up Covid Fight With Orders Nixing Trump Policies--I know it's too early to celebrate and I also know he'll end up doing things I disagree with or despise as with most Presidents, but so far, so good.

    Stay safe, folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    4,363 deaths
    This horror show will continue to be Trump's fault for some time yet. Biden has made it a priority, even authorizing military procurement, but it will be months before the skid marks that are Trump's legacy are soaked in HydrOxyclean and bleached out.

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    So uh...might be purely coincidence but...

    Rep. Patrick Fallon (R-TX) office account profile picture December 21st, 2020 versus January 21st, 2021.



    We finally ditching the carrot juice spray tan, folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    We finally ditching the carrot juice spray tan, folks.
    That's just like...the same picture? He just turned down the orange and saturation by the looks of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    That's just like...the same picture? He just turned down the orange and saturation by the looks of it?
    I believe that was the point.

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    Hey, speaking of fascist idiots with fascist ideas:

    The year 2020 will be remembered in history for a deadly pandemic and a deep economic crisis that touched almost every country on earth. Hopes for a brighter 2021 were one of the few things most people could agree on.

    But just six days into the new year, these hopes were rudely shattered by images of far-right white supremacists, incited by an aspiring autocrat refusing to admit his electoral defeat, storming the Capitol in an attempt to overthrow the election.

    This fascist putsch was implicitly supported by some elected leaders, including GOP members of Congress who continued to promote the thoroughly debunked falsehood that the 2020 elections were “stolen.” Worse still, there are early indications that some elected officials may have aided the violent mob more directly as well.

    But this attempted coup wouldn’t have progressed to this point without large amounts of funding, too. And playing a disproportionately large role among business backers of fascism are fossil fuel companies and their owners and top executives.
    https://www.peoplesworld.org/article...cist-politics/
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  15. #69415
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    So let's pretend Trump took that very obvious step. Melania could leave anyhow, deciding her worth as a person is more val....yeah I can't finish that sentence even hypothetically. She'll be glued to him until he dies or changes his will. Or, until NYState, the Feds, Deutsche Bank or anyone else takes all Trump's illegal money, and she wants to jump ship before that splashes over to her. I mean, it'd be dirt simple to prove she had no hand in Trump's business dealings, so it could purely be a defensive move.
    How did she afford her jewelry design store? It'd be pretty easy to prove she was involved in dump's business dealings.
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    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    How did she afford her jewelry design store? It'd be pretty easy to prove she was involved in dump's business dealings.
    Oh, I meant Trump's real estate and related items. Sorry, I wasn't clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Oh, I meant Trump's real estate and related items. Sorry, I wasn't clear.
    I'm not sure trump is really someone against comingling funds. I don't think there's a "substantive difference," though maybe @cubby might know different.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    I don't know if this is more appropriate for Biden's topic, but in the fallout of Trump, it's weird how people don't just see Joe Biden as a replacement that's better than nothing but a much better person already. He hasn't even done anything yet but it's just such a bizarrely assured atmosphere.
    It’s almost like the agenda he has laid out, the nominees he put into place, the EOs he signed, and the fact that we have a track record tells us is won’t be another 4 years of tearing down the nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    I'm not sure trump is really someone against comingling funds. I don't think there's a "substantive difference," though maybe @cubby might know different.
    From what I can tell he mostly just takes money from his businesses until they go bankrupt.

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    WaPo reports that

    1) Byung J. Pak, an AG in GA (whoa, palindrome) was singled out and attacked by Trump, and
    2) Suddenly resigned the day after Trump's recorded phone call, the one where he tried to extort Georgia like a mob boss, and
    3) The Justice Department's Office of the Inspector General is now investigating.

    Basically the story so far is that a senior DoJ Trump official, um, "gently suggested" that they resign.

    There's no telling how many things we haven't heard about that are about to come to light, possibly from "Yes Trump hired me but I was totally the only one loyal to the country" proclaimers. This could be a one-off, or the tip of the Spear of Bastion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    I'm not sure trump is really someone against comingling funds
    I agree. But based on his proven public history, he'd never give Melania any kind of say over his businesses. Melania will not be a name on any such document nor does she have any stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    WaPo reports that

    1) Byung J. Pak, an AG in GA (whoa, palindrome) was singled out and attacked by Trump, and
    2) Suddenly resigned the day after Trump's recorded phone call, the one where he tried to extort Georgia like a mob boss, and
    3) The Justice Department's Office of the Inspector General is now investigating.

    Basically the story so far is that a senior DoJ Trump official, um, "gently suggested" that they resign.

    There's no telling how many things we haven't heard about that are about to come to light, possibly from "Yes Trump hired me but I was totally the only one loyal to the country" proclaimers. This could be a one-off, or the tip of the Spear of Bastion.
    We are about to see a veritable shit storm of things coming down now that Trump doesn't control any aspect of our Justice System. He might have been safe in Florida, but aside from violating his living arrangement agreement, he seems to be relatively scandal-free in Florida. I'm sure that won't last long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    I'm not sure trump is really someone against comingling funds. I don't think there's a "substantive difference," though maybe @cubby might know different.
    Bankruptcy courts are very mindful of people trying to hide funds with sketchy comingling schemes. If it came to it, with Trump doing shenanigans and a federal court looking up his ass, they would put all their resources into finding his monies.

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