Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Poopymonster]

I wonder how restrictions to stop minorities from voting enacted by the GOP factor into the math here

When you only let a certain % of the black population vote, the ones you are certain will vote for your side, of course you'll get her numbers.

[Zan15]

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics...-2020-victory/
https://www.vox.com/2021/5/10/224251...p-demographics

In what reality is roughly 10% actually 18%? Smaller demographic shifts like this happen.

Now here is the bigger question, where were the extra votes if there were any?

States that would not have or would never impact the election like deep south or liberal coast?

Can't really find this level of detail in any of the reports.

[cubby]

This is an honest question, not "lol leading" as per usual. Would suing someone because they "broke" an illegal NDA, be considered witness intimidation?

Man, you don't fuck around with the easy ones, do you?

The law is pretty clear that a NDA doesn't protect criminal activity, so much so that you can report a crime even while "under" a NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement). Violating a NDA usually means you lose out on benefits, salary, compensation, or previous settlement money (NDA's can be used for a number of things, including post court case settlements - "hush agreements"). But if someone reports or testifies on criminal activity and they've signed a NDA, the person is in the clear.

Even though the law is clear, an Organization could file a cause of action against the person who violated the agreement. And the Organization would certainly file a brief requesting to exclude the testimony because of the NDA. However, strategically speaking, I'm not sure an Organization would actually file suit against the NDA-violator. If I were the Organizations attorney, I would sanction the employee based on the NDA penalties, and NOT sue the employee. Because that would put the onus back on the employee to sue to get themselves "unsanctioned", if that makes sense.

However, you didn't ask that - lol. I don't think suing the employee would be witness intimidation (although it of course would be). I can't find any case law on it though - it's all about sexual harassment. I think because the NDA "violation" is legit, it would constitute a normal cause of action legally, and therefore not be witness intimidation. But as always, and especially here, it depends.

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Trump's son-in-law's family held a fundraiser for a 2024 presidential candidate. It wasn't Trump.

NOW I would pay to come to Mar-a-Go-Fuck-Yourself for Thanksgiving. Should be a hoot.

[Benggaul]

I hate to step on benggaul's toes, but I simply had to post this for personal reasons.

Absolutely not a problem. I don't have nor do I particularly want a monopoly on COVID info dissemination.

I'm Floridian. Nothing closed. Life barely changed here.

Well, except for the nearly 40 thousand Floridians (that we know of) whose lives changed rather dramatically.

Thursday's report:

36,674 new cases; about 19k more than two weeks ago.

Top 5:

Fuck Florida (over 7k according to worldometers).
Texas: 3,611 new cases; 41 deaths
California: 3,439 new cases; 28 deaths
Missouri: 2,882 new cases; no deaths reported (lie of omission)
Louisiana: 1,500 new cases; 13 deaths

Florida remains the worst in the nation. Also in COVID terms, as @Breccia posted earlier. Six states have now moved into the "High" risk zone: Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, Missouri and Arkansas. Based on positivity rates coupled with low vaccination rates (and proximity to the aforementioned 6) I'm also expecting Oklahoma, Mississippi and Louisiana to join them shortly. The next wave is undeniably upon us and all we can do is hope this pushes more people to get vaccinated so we can keep the casualties low this time around. Things aren't looking good heading into the weekend and I'm pretty sure we will be seeing 40k+ by next week at the latest.

344 deaths is around 30 higher than two weeks ago and brings the total to 624,214. The 7-day average has definitely started curving back upwards, currently at around 260, and will be heading higher for the next couple weeks at least as is the inevitable outcome of so many new cases. The other problem is that because Delta spreads so quickly healthcare services can very easily get overwhelmed by unvaccinated infected (vaccinated people have a much lower chance of needing hospitalization). Keep an eye on ICU occupancies.

Related news:

CDC warns of 'pandemic of the unvaccinated' over troubling rise in Covid cases

"we are going to continue to see preventable cases, hospitalizations and, sadly, deaths among the unvaccinated."

Get. Your. Jabs.

Biden's Covid surge teams begin rolling out to a hostile heartland--Because Trump politicized the virus as a "Democrat hoax" you can guess the most vulnerable areas. Biden's teams won't be bringing hydroxychloroquine, bleach or UV light to inject people with, so what good are they, eh?

Stay safe, folks.

[Azadina]

I'm Floridian. Nothing closed. Life barely changed here.

You mean apart from those who no longer found themselves having a life to live?

[Bodakane]

Well, except for the nearly 40 thousand Floridians (that we know of) whose lives changed rather dramatically.

You mean apart from those who no longer found themselves having a life to live?

I'm not saying "nothing changed" as a source of pride. I'm only telling people just how stupid my state is. The sheriff for my county, for example, actually came out last year and said mask wearing is prohibited in any sheriff office/station in the county.

I was able to get my vax early in April, before I was technically eligible because NO ONE here was getting them. Every 15 minute window for appointments were open at every Walgreen's and CVS. You could literally make an appointment, drive there and get the shot in less than 15 minutes.

[Benggaul]

I'm not saying "nothing changed" as a source of pride.

Yeah, that's not what I was implying. I was just piggy-backing off your statement.

[postman1782]

The period of 2016-2036, which includes the era of Trump running for president three times, is EXTREMELY significant in American history, because in this period, blacks are FINALLY making that long-awaited shift away from liberalism to conservatism. We saw that happen with other groups in US history. Irish Catholics went from putting JFK in office in 1960 to voting in Reagan by 1980. But it never happened with blacks - - until now.

This entire gambit by the left we are currently witnessing with BLM, pushing Harris as veep, pushing for more black representation in film and TV, pushing for a black national anthem, is actually one gigantic PANIC MOVE. They get what's happening. They see the polling. DEMOGRAPHICS IS DESTINY AND BLACKS ARE JOINING THE GOP. They need to try to stop it. So they are trying different tactics to win them back. But its not working.

The real question is how long it takes before it completes.

Trump is right in the middle of this period. He knows it. He has made it a point to court the black vote and encourage the shift. 2024 is going to be VERY interesting on this front, because by then, this shift has the potential to start flipping some serious blue states red.

Its fascinating watching black republicans slowly get elected into the House too and reject and oppose all the democrat legislation. 2 more got elected in 2020.

You know, it should be a fucking requirement for bullshit posts like this to have fucking sources. Cuz Trump only got 8% of the black vote. And no, blacks are not joining the GOP.

[Edge-]

https://www.salon.com/2021/07/16/bil...t-selling-out/

Remember that O'Reilly/Trump speaking tour? Well, it doesn't seem to be a hot ticket item, literally, because tons of tickets are unsold.

And this fact, and the media reporting on this fact, has irked O'Reilly, who is angry and apparently threatening to sue a Politico reporter for reporting that. For some context, here's the map on Ticketmaster showing seats that are still available, in blue -



Amusingly, in responding to the articles pointing out low ticket sales, O'Reilly and Trump don't seem to be on the same page -

"The History Tour has already sold over $5 million of tickets, and the excitement and enthusiasm is unlike anything we've seen before," Trump spokesperson Liz Harrington told Politico. "Come December, the sold out shows will be a memorable night for all."

O'Reilly called the report "false" and "totally ridiculous," declaring that ticket sales have already brought in $7 million, a figure even higher than the Trump camp claimed.

Either O'Reilly skimmed a cool $2M off the top without team Trump finding out about it, team Trump is way out of date on their sales data, or more likely, they're all just making shit up.

[unfilteredJW]

I'm not saying "nothing changed" as a source of pride. I'm only telling people just how stupid my state is. The sheriff for my county, for example, actually came out last year and said mask wearing is prohibited in any sheriff office/station in the county.

I was able to get my vax early in April, before I was technically eligible because NO ONE here was getting them. Every 15 minute window for appointments were open at every Walgreen's and CVS. You could literally make an appointment, drive there and get the shot in less than 15 minutes.

I knew what you meant fellow Floridian.

I was at Walmart earlier and they do walk ins. They said no one had been in days.

[Breccia]

Well, it doesn't seem to be a hot ticket item, literally, because tons of tickets are unsold.

That picture is 8 hours out of date. Surely by now--



Ah.

A quick glance over the sections reveals, for the first date at least, there are literally thousands of empty seats. It looks like Trump dropped the price on the seats behind him, so that the arena would look full when he was on camera.

I'm not going to go through it seat by seat, but apparently it's 40 to 45 percent sold. Kind of like his election results.

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Yeah, Trump heard what Milley said and said he should be court-martialed.

I was unaware preventing a tyrant from leading an insurrection was a court-martial offense. Regardless, I'm pretty sure the only person that could have, and would have, was Trump. And his time is over.

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The Trump Centurion is given a jail cell next to the Trump Shaman.

[s_bushido]

Remember that O'Reilly/Trump speaking tour? Well, it doesn't seem to be a hot ticket item, literally, because tons of tickets are unsold.

lol... Do any of his followers even remember who O'Reilly is at this point? Speaking for myself, it's been a blessedly long time since I've been reminded that that particular anthropomorphic shitstain still exists.

[Zan15]

https://www.salon.com/2021/07/16/bil...t-selling-out/

Remember that O'Reilly/Trump speaking tour? Well, it doesn't seem to be a hot ticket item, literally, because tons of tickets are unsold.

And this fact, and the media reporting on this fact, has irked O'Reilly, who is angry and apparently threatening to sue a Politico reporter for reporting that. For some context, here's the map on Ticketmaster showing seats that are still available, in blue -



Amusingly, in responding to the articles pointing out low ticket sales, O'Reilly and Trump don't seem to be on the same page -



Either O'Reilly skimmed a cool $2M off the top without team Trump finding out about it, team Trump is way out of date on their sales data, or more likely, they're all just making shit up.

or you had some campaign funds buying up seats....just like they buy 500k books to hand out as "promotional" items for don jr.

[cubby]

or you had some campaign funds buying up seats....just like they buy 500k books to hand out as "promotional" items for don jr.

Another of the grifting tactics. Using PAC money that's limited to campaigns to buy up tickets for an even they get a huge profit percentage.

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The period of 2016-2036, which includes the era of Trump running for president three times, is EXTREMELY significant in American history, because in this period, blacks are FINALLY making that long-awaited shift away from liberalism to conservatism. We saw that happen with other groups in US history. Irish Catholics went from putting JFK in office in 1960 to voting in Reagan by 1980. But it never happened with blacks - - until now.

This entire gambit by the left we are currently witnessing with BLM, pushing Harris as veep, pushing for more black representation in film and TV, pushing for a black national anthem, is actually one gigantic PANIC MOVE. They get what's happening. They see the polling. DEMOGRAPHICS IS DESTINY AND BLACKS ARE JOINING THE GOP. They need to try to stop it. So they are trying different tactics to win them back. But its not working.

The real question is how long it takes before it completes.

Trump is right in the middle of this period. He knows it. He has made it a point to court the black vote and encourage the shift. 2024 is going to be VERY interesting on this front, because by then, this shift has the potential to start flipping some serious blue states red.

Its fascinating watching black republicans slowly get elected into the House too and reject and oppose all the democrat legislation. 2 more got elected in 2020.

Not sure why you are lying, but literally every section here is wrong. Most are out right lies. When you start posting links to your literal bullshit lies, we'll respond in kind.

For instance: Whoopsie Daisies on the number of black republican House members.

[Breccia]

FOX News continues to do Trump's dirty work, for example, asking loaded questions or flat-out lies at the WH press briefings.

For example, asking why the WH hasn't stripped Fauci off FB for telling people they didn't need masks. Which, yes, happened during Trump's tenure, and Trump said the same.

Also, referring to tracking public FB posts with intentional vaccine misinformation as "spying". It's not spying if the behavior is done in public. FOX News did not criticize the spread of the misinformation, by the way.

What did not happen, was Biden did not throw out the reporter or block FOX News or call FOX News Fake News. It kinda feels like FOX News is baiting biden into doing that, which wil be hilarious when it works, because FOX News has already proven by their actions they're willing to accept when the WH kicks out reporters. Therefore, they'll have no reason to complain.

[Benggaul]

Friday's report:

40,529 new cases, about 21k more than two weeks ago. Happened sooner than I hoped but not unexpected.

Top 5:

Fuck Florida (over 8k according to worldometers and extrapolated from Florida's weekly report)
California: 4,581 new cases; 48 deaths
Texas: 4,276 new cases; 26 deaths
Missouri: 2,337 new cases; deaths still not being reported
Louisiana: 1,605 new cases; 7 deaths

We're seeing the numbers taking huge leaps every day which was expected with the Delta variant becoming dominant. There's still optimism from the experts that Biden's vaccination push will keep us from seeing the 400k totals and mountain of deaths we saw towards the end of the TRUMP SHITSHOW, though obviously the unvaccinated population will be very hard hit. You can argue that those who steadfastly refused to get the vaccine deserve it, but bear in mind that the vaccines have not been approved for children 12 and under yet so that's a large demographic who legitimately can't get it yet. Death tolls should be lower this time around...but the average age will probably be depressingly low.

293 deaths is slightly lower than the amount two weeks ago and brings the total to 624,606. California, Florida and Texas continue trading places among the top 3, though if Missouri was reporting their deaths they'd likely be in the mix fairly often as well. Hospitalizations are on the rise, so expect this number to go up as well as the wave continues.

Related news:

Arkansas reports 1,342 new coronavirus cases, 11 more deaths--Why is this significant? Because Arkansas has the worst cases per capita rate in the entire nation, largely because their vaccination rate is only about 35%. Only 4% of their ICU beds are still available. The entire region around Arkansas is a hotbed for COVID because of "vaccine hesitancy"...AKA willful ignorance brought on by Trump's relentless campaign of misinformation.

Stay safe, folks.

[Breccia]

Arkansas

Near the bottom of the list in vaccination rates, down there with Mississippi and Alabama. (Gee, wonder what they all have in common)

I get what you're saying about kids, I do, but a vaccination rate that low can only be due to people avoiding the vaccine on purpose. There's enough to go around.

[Benggaul]

Near the bottom of the list in vaccination rates, down there with Mississippi and Alabama. (Gee, wonder what they all have in common)

I get what you're saying about kids, I do, but a vaccination rate that low can only be due to people avoiding the vaccine on purpose. There's enough to go around.

Oh don't misunderstand me: the adults in those states are responsible for the vaccination rate being so pisspoor. I'm just saying on a national level there is a large demographic that legitimately still can't get vaccinated, so it's up to the adults to get vaccinated to protect the children. Those that refuse to do so aren't just being ignorant assholes, they're being selfish, ignorant assholes putting other lives in danger.

[bladeXcrasher]

Those that refuse to do so aren't just being ignorant assholes, they're being selfish, ignorant assholes putting other lives in danger.

You've just defined everything conservative.

[Breccia]

it's up to the adults to get vaccinated to protect the children.

it is. And too many are choosing not to do it. Honestly, Florida and Arkansas are lucky things aren't worse -- school's out.