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    I'll post here since more active thread the Insurrection thread.

    .JUST IN: D.C. National Guard chief says Pentagon prevented immediate response to mob on Jan. 6 https://t.co/2WxmsT1hZp https://t.co/bLwHeCl2gb
    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1...823147013?s=19

    Okay, barely weeks before if you remember Trump installed many cronies at the Pentagon. Seems enough influence to at least confuse or delay an reaction to the Insurrection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Damn you caught me red-handed
    I see comrade...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    I'll post here since more active thread the Insurrection thread.



    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1...823147013?s=19

    Okay, barely weeks before if you remember Trump installed many cronies at the Pentagon. Seems enough influence to at least confuse or delay an reaction to the Insurrection.
    We've known this since the week after Jan. 6th when documents were released that prevented the Natl. Guard to get involved without direct and explicit permission from the Trump appointees.

    I mean, it's nice and all to hear one of the higher ups confirm it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    I'd much prefer that too, but you'd be delusional if you think something like that would ever happen. The last election proves that just isn't feasible.
    I think it is, in the long term. At least enough people.

    The demographics trump won in were limited largely to lower-education white men. Every part of that demographic is shrinking in the long term.

    Conservatives tend to admonish higher education and disparage schooling as being “mostly just liberal propaganda” because they know that more educated people (generally) don’t vote for them and that more educated people don’t buy into the fears they’re selling.

    So I say lean into that push for higher education and revitalizing early education. There are people in power that fight against it, yes... but you gotta make a point of it to fight them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I think it is, in the long term. At least enough people.

    The demographics trump won in were limited largely to lower-education white men. Every part of that demographic is shrinking in the long term.

    Conservatives tend to admonish higher education and disparage schooling as being “mostly just liberal propaganda” because they know that more educated people (generally) don’t vote for them and that more educated people don’t buy into the fears they’re selling.

    So I say lean into that push for higher education and revitalizing early education. There are people in power that fight against it, yes... but you gotta make a point of it to fight them.
    Highly educated people also support him though, and there are several people currently in the House and Senate who still do as well, many of them are very well educated.

    It's not just a lack of education, it's people who ARE educated believing in and pushing for these things.

    Higher education isn't going to get rid of stupidity, it attempts to gets rid of ignorance, but that doesn't me people won't still push for and believe in stupid things....like QAnon, Anti-Vaxx and Flat Earthers.

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    And there it is.

    Trump makes plans to run in 2024 without Pence.

    Remember, Pence was the mandatory concession the Republican Party forced Trump to take, when they let him run in 2016. Trump could not fire Pence, although he fired literally everyone else the RNC pushed on him. Well, some resigned.

    Trump running without Pence means that Trump will be running with a Party of Trump ally, not a classic Republican. Meaning one of two things:

    a) third party, or more realistically,

    b) the Republican Party will be forced to cede defeat, and hand the keys and deed over to Trump entirely.

    "But Breccia! Surely they could just block him from running!"

    The Republican Party had their chance. They refused. Either Trump dies, Trump goes to jail, or the Republican Party admits they no longer run the show, and that they can't run without Trump anymore.

    For anyone asking "why are we still talking about him?" this is why. Trump, despite his proven failures, proven incompetence, proven corruption and inciting a murderous insurrection in broad daylight, will either be the Republican nominee...or, he'll be dead.

    Rational-thinking people (i.e. not cultists) must ensure that Trump's run is a failure. He did enough damage the first time, and this coming time, he'll be four years more insane and have no shackles. You think half a million dead from COVID, spiked wealth gap, spiked unemployment, etc etc was bad the first time? Do it again, except without riding the brake.

    Continue to resist, one and all. This must be opposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    And there it is.

    Trump makes plans to run in 2024 without Pence.

    Remember, Pence was the mandatory concession the Republican Party forced Trump to take, when they let him run in 2016. Trump could not fire Pence, although he fired literally everyone else the RNC pushed on him. Well, some resigned.

    Trump running without Pence means that Trump will be running with a Party of Trump ally, not a classic Republican. Meaning one of two things:

    a) third party, or more realistically,

    b) the Republican Party will be forced to cede defeat, and hand the keys and deed over to Trump entirely.

    "But Breccia! Surely they could just block him from running!"

    The Republican Party had their chance. They refused. Either Trump dies, Trump goes to jail, or the Republican Party admits they no longer run the show, and that they can't run without Trump anymore.

    For anyone asking "why are we still talking about him?" this is why. Trump, despite his proven failures, proven incompetence, proven corruption and inciting a murderous insurrection in broad daylight, will either be the Republican nominee...or, he'll be dead.

    Rational-thinking people (i.e. not cultists) must ensure that Trump's run is a failure. He did enough damage the first time, and this coming time, he'll be four years more insane and have no shackles. You think half a million dead from COVID, spiked wealth gap, spiked unemployment, etc etc was bad the first time? Do it again, except without riding the brake.

    Continue to resist, one and all. This must be opposed.
    Can't Trump technically still run from office even in jail? as far as I know there is nothing in the constitution stopping a convicted felon from running. However I don't see Trump ever going to jail he will most likely just spend a lot of money on settlements so death is the only thing that would stop him. Trump will be the nominee in 2024 and the GOP will bend the knee and give him whatever he wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    Highly educated people also support him though, and there are several people currently in the House and Senate who still do as well, many of them are very well educated.

    It's not just a lack of education, it's people who ARE educated believing in and pushing for these things.

    Higher education isn't going to get rid of stupidity, it attempts to gets rid of ignorance, but that doesn't me people won't still push for and believe in stupid things....like QAnon, Anti-Vaxx and Flat Earthers.
    The main educated people I have seen who actively support him are pure sociopaths who quite literally would put a bullet in you and enjoy it if they thought they could get away with it and feel that they personally will get along fine either way and that they could exploit that suffering for personal gain in some way.

    I haven't seen ANY educated working class people who actually support him and thinking he was best for the nation. It was all uneducated people who couldn't accept facts they disliked or educated sociopaths who thought they personally had more to gain from hurting others. And I include my own family and friends in this.
    Since we can't call out Trolls and Bad Faith posters and the Ignore function doesn't actually ignore it. Add
    "mmo-champion.com##li.postbitignored"
    to your ublock or adblock filter to actually ignore ignored posters. Now just need a way to ignore responses to them as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    And there it is.

    Trump makes plans to run in 2024 without Pence.

    Remember, Pence was the mandatory concession the Republican Party forced Trump to take, when they let him run in 2016.
    Why would this be a problem for the GOP? The past four years have demonstrated pretty clearly that neither Republican voters nor Republican politicians care in the slightest about the character of the people in their party. So if Trump runs again, it shouldn't matter to any of them which random unqualified scumfuck he picks as a running-mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    Highly educated people also support him though, and there are several people currently in the House and Senate who still do as well, many of them are very well educated.

    It's not just a lack of education, it's people who ARE educated believing in and pushing for these things.

    Higher education isn't going to get rid of stupidity, it attempts to gets rid of ignorance, but that doesn't me people won't still push for and believe in stupid things....like QAnon, Anti-Vaxx and Flat Earthers.
    But I think you’ll find that the number of crazy anti-vaxxers, flat earthers, and trump supporters tends to decrease with an increase in education level. Which then means that... more education, fewer crazed right wing nutjobs.

    As for the “educated” people in congress who support trump... I don’t believe that most of them believe the nonsense trump spouts. I believe they see it as a political game that they can use to their own advantage.
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    I think the headline speaks for itself:

    Fox News staffers fume over hiring of Kayleigh McEnany: "They don't give a damn about facts"

    We all knew Propaganda Barbie would find a spot over on FOX (or OANN). I find it pretty hilarious that she's reviled even there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    I think the headline speaks for itself:

    Fox News staffers fume over hiring of Kayleigh McEnany: "They don't give a damn about facts"

    We all knew Propaganda Barbie would find a spot over on FOX (or OANN). I find it pretty hilarious that she's reviled even there.
    Holy fuck that needs to absolutely be the only name we use for her going forward.

    You, sir, win the interwebs for today. Well done.

    On a side note - it's adorable seeing Faux "News" complaining about people not caring about the facts, when Tucker Carlson is a literal liar with every breath he takes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    You, sir, win the interwebs for today. Well done.
    Nah. That's been her nickname--including in this very thread--pretty much since she took her post as Surrogate Liar. I had nothing to do with it's creation but I happily participate in its dissemination.

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    House cancels sessions for tomorrow, due to security agencies siting risk. These Trump supporters are insane...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    I think the headline speaks for itself:

    Fox News staffers fume over hiring of Kayleigh McEnany: "They don't give a damn about facts"

    We all knew Propaganda Barbie would find a spot over on FOX (or OANN). I find it pretty hilarious that she's reviled even there.
    Who goes to work for Fox thinking they ever cared about facts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    How time flies... March 4th is tomorrow... on March 5th we find out the new date when Trump takes over. Money on April 1st...
    I have heard from Qtards already online that it is March 20th. This is just like the latest scam by End Times "prophets".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    House cancels sessions for tomorrow, due to security agencies siting risk. These Trump supporters are insane...
    Imagine how bad its going to be in 2024 when he runs.

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    O...M...G...

    This has to be the best ‘re-do’ of the CPAC National Anthem I’ve heard yet.

    Blows away all the piano renditions I’ve heard so far!

    https://youtu.be/AQ-O72WMRKo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Who goes to work for Fox thinking they ever cared about facts?
    Have you seen their newly trademarked slogan? Cracks me up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    Imagine how bad its going to be in 2024 when he runs.
    If he's not in jail by then it's going to be horrific. And genuinely scary for the country if those GOP voting suppression bills are passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    If he's not in jail by then it's going to be horrific. And genuinely scary for the country if those GOP voting suppression bills are passed.
    I see zero chance of Trump going to jail paying millions of dollars yes but not jail even if he gets convicted of a crime there's nothing in the constitution prevented him from running with a criminal record (which is insane).

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