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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    If Trump gets elected again in a few years. what will you people do? I don't think this has been asked because people assume it's a fantasy, but it can happen/
    Wait until it happens.
    After all it's more than likely his age will finally catch up to him. Then maybe he can finally have that chat with God...(or whomever), that he never wanted to ever have.

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    Putting politics aside completely, it's amazing that someone like Trump is even alive. He's obese and has a horrific diet. People like that don't usually reach their 80s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    Putting politics aside completely, it's amazing that someone like Trump is even alive. He's obese and has a horrific diet. People like that don't usually reach their 80s.
    I mean, there's definitely evidence to suggest that he's not in the greatest of health. There's hardly a guarantee that he'll still be alive in 2024 at the age of 78, let alone live through the end of the subsequent presidential term to 2028 at the age of 82.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    Putting politics aside completely, it's amazing that someone like Trump is even alive. He's obese and has a horrific diet. People like that don't usually reach their 80s.
    Money buys a better brand of healthcare than most people. That said, I'm willing to bet his health isn't anywhere near so great as he or his "doctors" would lead us to believe. If you can stomach it, try looking at a few minutes of his more recent speeches at rallies. He ain't right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    If Trump gets elected again in a few years. what will you people do? I don't think this has been asked because people assume it's a fantasy, but it can happen/
    Going to be hard to do that from fucking prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Going to be hard to do that from fucking prison.
    He could technically be elected while in prison, though, which is weird.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    He could technically be elected while in prison, though, which is weird.
    Would be a weird way of seeing Republicans pivot into asking for felons and inmates having the right to vote because they think they would vote for Trump because “he is one of them”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    If Trump gets elected again in a few years. what will you people do?/
    I'd be too busy trying to catch all the monkeys flying out of my butt.

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    CNN: 6 members of a Florida church died of Covid-19 in 2 weeks, pastor says. On Sunday the church held a vaccination clinic
    In just two weeks, six members of a Florida church died from Covid-19. All were unvaccinated, their pastor said.

    Now the church is hosting a vaccination clinic.

    Pastor George Davis at Impact Church in Jacksonville addressed members during Sunday's service and said the past week had been very difficult.

    "We've had now six members of our church over the course of a couple weeks now that have passed away from Covid," said Davis during the service that was livestreamed on the church's Facebook page. "It has just absolutely ripped our hearts apart. The most recent one was actually a young lady on our worship team."

    Davis told CNN affiliate WJXT on Friday that four of the deaths were members under the age of 35 and that they were all healthy -- but that none of them were vaccinated.

    "It's pain," Davis told WJXT. "These are actual people that I know, that I have pastored. One 24-year-old kid, I've known him since he was a toddler."

    He added that 15-20 church members were in the hospital battling Covid and around 10 members were at home with the virus. Davis told WJXT that he is certain the members didn't contract the virus at the church.

    On Friday, Florida reported 134,506 new Covid-19 cases over the last week, more than any other 7-day period during the pandemic.

    "Part of my resolve is, yes we are praying, but we aren't just going to be praying," said Davis on Sunday.

    "We are going pray and do something. And part of our do something in this situation is that we are having a vaccination event."

    The church hosted a free vaccination clinic on Sunday for anyone who wanted to get the Coivd-19 vaccine. The clinic was held in partnership with health officials from University of Florida Health. Along with offering the Pzifer vaccine, Davis said they had medical educators available for anyone who had questions or concerns about vaccinations.

    "My family and I are all fully vaccinated," said Davis. "I'm not asking you to be vaccinated because I don't want to pressure you. We are simply making it available for those who want it."

    In March, according to WJXT, the church hosted a previous clinic where 800 members were vaccinated.


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    do you people really wish Trump died? The tone of the conversation makes it seem like you'd be relieved.
    "Truth...justice, honor, freedom! Vain indulgences, every one(...) I know what I want, and I take it. I take advantage of whatever I can, and discard that which I cannot. There is no room for sentiment or guilt."

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    Yep, they don't do anything until it directly effects them. Then they try to do everything they can, too little too late for the 6 that died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    do you people really wish Trump died? The tone of the conversation makes it seem like you'd be relieved.
    Do you really wish that aliens would come to earth and enslave the human race, using us as a food source?


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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    do you people really wish Trump died? The tone of the conversation makes it seem like you'd be relieved.
    Funny, don't think anyone has said that. But he and his supporters are fucking hypocrites though. Considering the medication he took, Regeneron, has fetal stem cells in it, from abortions lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Yep, they don't do anything until it directly effects them. Then they try to do everything they can, too little too late for the 6 that died.
    I mean, to be fair, I think you missed the last line:
    In March, according to WJXT, the church hosted a previous clinic where 800 members were vaccinated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    I mean, to be fair, I think you missed the last line:
    To be honest, I didn't actually read the article, I just figured, church and antivaccination go hand in hand since we have morons like Greg Locke running around telling people to not get vaccinated, to not wear masks, and if they do to his church he will literally kick them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Yep, they don't do anything until it directly effects them. Then they try to do everything they can, too little too late for the 6 that died.
    It shouldn't have needed to have been up to them though. It should have been the governments responsibility. But, yeah, Florida.

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    HORK HORK HORK!! **slaps fins together** HORK HORK HORK!!

    Sorry, don't know what came over me.

    Anyway, there's this:

    U.S. teachers' union shifts stance to back vaccine mandate as COVID surges

    COVID-19 vaccinations should be required for U.S. teachers to protect students who are too young to be inoculated, the head of the nation's second-largest teachers' union said on Sunday, shifting course to back mandated shots as more children fall ill.

    "The circumstances have changed," Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers, told NBC News' "Meet the Press" program. "It weighs really heavily on me that kids under 12 can't get vaccinated."

    "I felt the need ... to stand up and say this as a matter of personal conscience," she said.

    The number of children hospitalized with COVID is rising across the country, a trend health experts attribute to the Delta variant being more likely to infect children than the original Alpha strain.

    Almost 90% of educators and school staff are vaccinated, according to a White House statement echoed by Weingarten in other television interviews last week.
    I mean, good, but I'm disappointed it took them this long. I'm also not sure how much weight this carries. Perhaps one of our resident educators like @Breccia has more of an insight.

  18. #71378
    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    I mean, good, but I'm disappointed it took them this long.
    I feel like a lot of this crap could have been avoided if various agencies didn't rush to give the go-ahead to open shit up again. Which could have been avoided if half the political spectrum hadn't refused to believe that restrictive measures should have been put in place to begin with...
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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    I feel like a lot of this crap could have been avoided if various agencies didn't rush to give the go-ahead to open shit up again. Which could have been avoided if half the political spectrum hadn't refused to believe that restrictive measures should have been put in place to begin with...
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    Half this forum would be permanently banned if we did everything some of our users regularly demand or otherwise expect us to do.
    Actual blue mod response on doing what they volunteered to do. No wonder this place is infested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    Perhaps one of our resident educators like @Breccia has more of an insight.
    I wish I could, but I'm in New York State, whose state mandates are likely going to be as strong or more likely stronger than anything applied nationwide. I'm also college, not K-12. So I'm a little out of the loop on this one.

    I can tell you that [url=https://auburnpub.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/ny-teachers-union-says-no-to-any-covid-19-vaccine-mandates/article_44a9964e-b04e-5311-af95-bc9812fada2a.html]the NY teachers union opposed mandatory vaccines, requiring instead everyone who can't/won't get one be tested rigorously. And they basically said that to Cuomo's face. If they said it in NYState last week, in NYState, than this change you've cited is both new and substantial.

    Having survived the pandemic, I can tell you that a lot of the teachers I know hate change in general. I know a spectrum from "everything can and must be done with chalk and slate" to "which of three apps should my students use?" The move to online teaching was not great on, erm, "the Matlock crowd". We've all seen the stories of retirements, and I can personally add my own anecdotal non-data set. Teaching also tends to be an older profession. These BLS numbers put the average age in education older than average, for example. It's possible that the resistance for this long was due to concern about, well, states as intentionally self-destructive as Florida resisting and trying to break the union. (Yeah, because the South has proven so strong in educashun y'all) But I'm thinking it could be the age thing. It's not religion. And I can't imagine even a single public school teacher who doesn't get a state govt vaccine. They've been second on the list after doctors since it started.

    I can answer the "it took you long enough" thing. Teachers, sorry to say, aren't, um, swift with a lot of things. It's possible they wanted this to happen a while ago and it took them this long to get their act together.

    But as we've been saying, schools are focus points for things like this. Schools are how lice, chicken pox, and common colds spread. Someone gets it, their kid gets it, they bring it to school, everyone gets it. I got a panicked phone call last year when one of my niece's schoolmates got it, and not even one she hangs out with. Her school threw everyone off campus a day or two later. In the K-12 system, a teacher in...let's say "English" will see everyone else's kids of at least that same year, maybe several years. A sick teacher could infect dozens or hundreds depending on the school. Or, viewed from my notoriously selfish point of view, old teachers are at greater risk of a child killing them.

    Sorry I can't be of more help. I was never personally asked to vote on anything -- NYState pretty much handled it for me, not that I object to their decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    I feel like a lot of this crap could have been avoided if various agencies didn't rush to give the go-ahead to open shit up again
    Teachers were straddling the fence. The sudden shift to online teaching wasn't everyone's best friend. A lot of teachers wanted the hell out of that, and the union very likely chose to push for re-opening rather than lose even more of their workforce. It's not like it would be easy to replace. I can understand the joint decision "everyone come back to in-person classes and everyone vaccinate yourselves" even if I don't necessarily stand behind the first half.

    Teachers have a lot of inertia. It would take me a solid academic year to swap a textbook for my rinky-dink public school. Telling everyone "okay shift to online and keep it there" would be like asking truckers "you have to make your routes in reverse until we tell you otherwise".

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