Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Kaleredar]

i'm worried about children who wear masks getting bullied by children who don't -- because they'll be encouraged by their parents to do so. I mean we have adults bullying others (or trying to) about wearing masks.

All the while crying about freedom of choice. The hypocrisy is amazing.

I think it’d be interesting if some of the students also decided to wear clothing that directly conflicts with the dress codes of the school.

Clearly, schools can’t tell students how to dress, so all the dress codes should be null and void, correct?

Or are masks unenforceable because requiring them to be worn is an infringement upon students rights, but something like spaghetti straps must be restricted at all costs because you don’t want male students getting a case of the vapors.

[Lenonis]

If some bullies another person over wearing a mask they should be expelled. Zero tolerance.

Who exactly is going to expel them? Educators who think masks are useless and covid is a hoax?

I don't exactly have a lot of hope given the areas of the country we are looking at here.

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I think it’d be interesting if some of the students also decided to wear clothing that directly conflicts with the dress codes of the school.

Clearly, schools can’t tell students how to dress, so all the dress codes should be null and void, correct?

Or are masks unenforceable because requiring them to be worn is an infringement upon students rights, but something like spaghetti straps must be restricted at all costs because you don’t want male students getting a case of the vapors.

Yeah, we want to ban masks because of freedom of choice but girls wearing a skirt is the devil and needs to be outlawed.

And they don't even understand the hypocrisy. It's quite amazing the cognitive dissonance they can be comfortable with.

[Lenonis]

Educators who believe that bullying of any type is harmful and have a basic understanding of science. Sure, that won’t happen everywhere. But that doesn’t change my belief that we need to punish the morons for harming society. If they want to deny basic shit taught to children why force them to learn it? Let their parents decide how to educate them. I look forward to reading their dissertations on how to work the auto-grill at their job.

Oh don't get me wrong. I absolutely am anti-bullying for any reason really. And they should crack down hard on any kids (or adults) who give kids a hard time for wearing masks. I'm just really skeptical given the parts of the country we're dealing with that people are going to take this seriously. Honestly I can even see some teachers doing the bullying and demanding the kids remove the masks. Things are that stupid.

[Kaleredar]

Who exactly is going to expel them? Educators who think masks are useless and covid is a hoax?

I don't exactly have a lot of hope given the areas of the country we are looking at here.

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Yeah, we want to ban masks because of freedom of choice but girls wearing a skirt is the devil and needs to be outlawed.

And they don't even understand the hypocrisy. It's quite amazing the cognitive dissonance they can be comfortable with.

These are the same sort of people who want to prevent women from wearing a hijab because they think that those garments represent cultures that tell women how to dress.

In the end it’s about maintaining an image of the status quo. Just like how a hijab is scary and foreign to them, a mask represents a challenge to the perceived unshakable normalcy of their society under Republican ideals.

[Lenonis]

You get that it’s the majority of the country right? And even in most red states you have liberal areas. Fuck, I live in an area that went from purple to strongly blue in the last 20 years and even with a very high vaccination rate we’re having to mask up.

Right -- maybe I got turned around in the discussion but I was talking about states that have forbidden mask mandates in school like Florida and Texas. I'm worried those kids whose families want to wear masks are going to face problems.

But yes - more urban areas are likely to be more science oriented and fact based in their approach to covid protocols.

[Breccia]

i'm worried about children who wear masks getting bullied by children who don't

Hopefully that's minimal. I've seen some headlines suggesting the 80+% majority of Texas parents/kids will be masked. Proves nothing, but hopefully.

[bladeXcrasher]

Right -- maybe I got turned around in the discussion but I was talking about states that have forbidden mask mandates in school like Florida and Texas. I'm worried those kids whose families want to wear masks are going to face problems.

But yes - more urban areas are likely to be more science oriented and fact based in their approach to covid protocols.

Even after the republican Supreme Court here backed Abbotts interpretation of the emergency disaster act, the schools have told them to pack sand and they still will require masks for staff and students. They are still going forward with suits against Abbott about this as well.

[Lenonis]

Hopefully that's minimal. I've seen some headlines suggesting the 80+% majority of Texas parents/kids will be masked. Proves nothing, but hopefully.

That is encouraging indeed.

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Even after the republican Supreme Court here backed Abbotts interpretation of the emergency disaster act, the schools have told them to pack sand and they still will require masks for staff and students. They are still going forward with suits against Abbott about this as well.

I just don't understand how it's even remotely constitutional for a state government to tell schools they are not allowed to follow CDC health guidance. It's insane.

[bladeXcrasher]

I just don't understand how it's even remotely constitutional for a state government to tell schools they are not allowed to follow CDC health guidance. It's insane.

Our AG is indicted on securities fraud and still in office, Texas Republicans don't really care about the constitution.

This is all theater because Abbott is up for re-election soon and a Trumper already threatened to run against him because he wasn't trumpy enough.

The Texas Supreme Court is 9 Republicans and zero anyone else. Anything the governor says and does will be approved by them. I really hope all of this rallies Texas to vote for a non-Republican governor, even if it would be generally useless with the horrible over representation of Republicans is all other parts of the Texas government.

[Edge-]

https://www.businessinsider.com/pro-...ography-2021-8

Hey, "Not-Trump's" social media platform and it's "NO CENSORSHIP!" stance seems to be great if you like images of child sexual abuse. Because the company doesn't seem to be doing much to stop those images, since they rely on their community to report the images and their community doesn't seem to be doing that.

[Lenonis]

Hey, "Not-Trump's" social media platform and it's "NO CENSORSHIP!" stance seems to be great if you like images of child sexual abuse.

Well given that it seems of late that this is mostly a right wing issue it tracks that a right wing platform wouldn't censor it.

[beanman12345]

That is encouraging indeed.

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I just don't understand how it's even remotely constitutional for a state government to tell schools they are not allowed to follow CDC health guidance. It's insane.

I don't understand how conservatives are calling cdc guidance as some sort of authoritarianism, when it's the Governors that are the ones making the no mask mandates executive orders. Oh yeah I do, they're morons.

[s_bushido]

Hey, "Not-Trump's" social media platform and its "NO CENSORSHIP!" stance seems to be great if you like images of child sexual abuse. Because the company doesn't seem to be doing much to stop those images, since they rely on their community to report the images and their community doesn't seem to be doing that.

I'm a prophet:

One-stop-shop for all your child porn needs?

Ok...to be fair, that was a different obvious-grift taking advantage of conservatives who think that getting banned from various platforms for hateful/abusive content is a central tenet of conservatism.

[arandomuser]

anyone old enough to remember before trump was then " no more wars" guy
he actually campaigned in 2016 on carpet bombing civilian centers in syria, and bringing back torture or in his own words " much worst" talked about killing family members of terrorist, banning all muslims, etc etc,
Maybe we have this whole " the people want out" thing wrong, and actually his sucess was being MORE pro war than the other gop candidates and his pivot to leaving is what cost him in 2020

[BronzeCondor]

It looks like President Trump is beginning to make headway towards running in 2024, I'm personally looking forward to voting for him amid Republicans tightening up loose voting practices that were leftover from 2020. Although I do admit, Republicans need to up their ground game to encourage many voters to get out there and show their support, Democrats have an upper-hand in this regard.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...terest-in-2024
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...vp-2024-500632

[Edge-]

loose voting practices that were leftover from 2020.

You mean voter suppression in response to non-existent fearmongering and pearl clutching around voter fraud that doesn't exist? You know, that thing Trump set up a commission for? That fell apart because they didn't find any evidence?

At least you admitted you're a fan of Trump and plan to vote for him once more, it provides all the context needed for your posts recently.

[draynay]

Although I do admit, Republicans need to up their ground game to encourage many voters to get out there and show their support, Democrats have an upper-hand in this regard.

Their policy has generally been the opposite. They tend to spend all their time suppressing votes they think will go against them rather than encouraging their own supporters.

[Breccia]

You mean voter suppression in response to non-existent fearmongering and pearl clutching around voter fraud that doesn't exist?

You know, it's possible he meant issues due to COVID causing legal, non-fraudulent mailed or early ballots. Thank goodness COVID cases are down and we don't need to--



Oh. Right. Yeah, cases are nearly identical to election day. Seems like a good idea to keep those around.

[BronzeCondor]

Their policy has generally been the opposite. They tend to spend all their time suppressing votes they think will go against them rather than encouraging their own supporters.

That is a poor strategy and don't agree with that. One of the things I believe will manifest out of the America First movement (as soon as they get their heads out of their ass with QTard Fiction), is increased political participation from a demographic that has lost its voice and has been rather apathetic towards politics. And hopefully in a manner that's more constructive than wearing a red hat & storming the Capitol.

Democrats certainly have much more passionate activists who encourage people to get out to vote, the Republicans are significantly missing this dynamic. Which is all the more reason for the party to go through an evolution (for the better).

[Edge-]

the America First movement (as soon as they get their heads out of their ass with QTard Fiction)

You realize they're one in the same...right?