Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Shadowferal]

Maybe the mods should deal with the pigeons shitting all over the place, rather than demand all passers by to ignore the pigeons taking a shit. It's impressive though on how T....ehh pigeons can T...shit for dozens of pages straight with one infraction at best. Like, what's with the massive discounts.

[Zinstorm]

Remember everyone, you can't tell people they're wrong because "it's giving them a platform" next time a professor gives you a poor score on a test tell them they aren't pushing back and in fact are being "T-ed."

Ignoring stupid is why we have a pandemic right now.

I hate to "Both sides" this but.... honestly I do wonder what the "correct" action is here. I've seen so many times the arguments that "you can't let ignorance go unaddressed because that's how it spreads" over and over again... and for the record I do agree with that mindset. On the same token however the "opposing" side is going to keep repeating its bad faith arguments and you can't even blame the moderators for it because they are for the most part not breaking the rules.... and by that same token you could make the case that due to them not breaking the rules then that means this is intended discourse for this place.

In the end I don't see a solution other then a rule change... but again... what rule would you even change? At this point it is so subjective that any additional rule would be almost equal to thought policing. I don't like the current state of things as well but in the end isn't this what discourse of politics is? Opposing viewpoints that refuse to compromise and try to convenes others to their side (even if their side isn't "logical")?

[Azadina]

Remember everyone, you can't tell people they're wrong because "it's giving them a platform" next time a professor gives you a poor score on a test tell them they aren't pushing back and in fact are being "T-ed."

Ignoring stupid is why we have a pandemic right now.

True, but in fairness, there's a difference between ignorant stupid and malicious stupid. One of these know exactly what they're doing, and more importantly why. One just follows their marching orders, but the other knows the battle plan and score.

[Ursus]

Trump isn't necessarily the correct leader to guide us into the future but as an agent of change, he caused a lot of people to care about politics again (on both sides). He spent a lot of time ranting, and a lot of time ranting about things wrong with our Federal Government & Corporate America (not all necessarily valid).

There was this guy in Germany that did something very similar, I bet you'd be a fan of him too.

[Fugus]

Remember everyone, you can't tell people they're wrong because "it's giving them a platform" next time a professor gives you a poor score on a test tell them they aren't pushing back and in fact are being "T-ed."

Ignoring stupid is why we have a pandemic right now.

Except you aren’t ignoring stupid, you are participating and becoming part of the stupid.

He isn’t debating in good faith and you know it. He is attempting to derail the thread and clutter it and you are helping him do it.

Instead of letting a single or few posts go ignored by all because we know what it is you turn it into 20+ pages of shit.

Flat out, he has kicked your ass up and down this thread and multiple others and is continuing to do so in a game you keep pretending you aren’t playing.

If you ever watched “Big Bang Theory” you can recall an episode where Sheldon was talking about some long version of “Rock Paper Scissors “ with a guy who just kept seeing how many times he could get him to repeat the long rules with it. Your Sheldon in that example right now and being played for gullible by him in the process the same way.

[draynay]

These forums always feed them, I've made a dozen posts over the years just like yours, it's never going to change and you're just setting yourself up for disappointment trying to get people to wise up.

[Fugus]

These forums always feed them, I've made a dozen posts over the years just like yours, it's never going to change and you're just setting yourself up for disappointment trying to get people to wise up.

I have noticed, watching otherwise intelligent seeming people just throw common sense to the wind feeding them. It’s like they don’t care about anything but debating even if it’s self destructively talking to a brick wall.

[unfilteredJW]

I have noticed, watching otherwise intelligent seeming people just throw common sense to the wind feeding them. It’s like they don’t care about anything but debating even if it’s self destructively talking to a brick wall.

And now you’ve gotten your attention you wanted.

Your smugness and need to show everyone how much better you are is another thing that should be ignored.

[Fugus]

And now you’ve gotten your attention you wanted.

Your smugness and need to show everyone how much better you are is another thing that should be ignored.

Smug has nothing to do with it and I don’t care about attention. The fact that this stuff can be repeatedly brought up only to have otherwise smart people turn into dullards isn’t right and shouldn’t be happening.

Stop trying to go after the messenger just because you don’t like the message.

Edit: And I have been here long enough to check or remember my past on here to know I am not one to go for attention and actually enjoyed debating and asking questions.

Something that can’t happen when the page is full of shit from people debating in bad faith and people willingly feeding them to play along with it.

[TACOshake]

Do shit posters become self-aware at 10,000 posts? Or just never?


Then again, if people ear-guzzle Joe Rogan or TYT for four hours a day... is circle jerking with alt-right bots for 20 pages any different?
It's the same boring hobby, but with slightly different contexts.

[Dontrike]

Except you aren’t ignoring stupid, you are participating and becoming part of the stupid.

Is this where I say you're giving me a platform and aren't pushing back? Aren't you participating in the "stupid" or does it not affect you with a bunch of Big Bang Theory facts?

I never said I was ignoring the stupid, I said I'm tired of ignoring it. If you want to change the forum then go be a mod and fix it. They just had an ad for more mods, go and do it.

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Something that can’t happen when the page is full of shit from people debating in bad faith and people willingly feeding them to play along with it.

"If you tell someone that is obviously wrong that they're wrong then you're feeding them."

[Fugus]

Is this where I say you're giving me a platform and aren't pushing back? Aren't you participating in the "stupid" or does it not affect you with a bunch of Big Bang Theory facts?

I never said I was ignoring the stupid, I said I'm tired of ignoring it. If you want to change the forum then go be a mod and fix it.

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"If you tell someone they're wrong you're only feeding them."

You are reaching Orlong levels of disingenuous here.

You are the one knowingly and willingly helping Bronzey to derail this thread into pages and pages of useless crap. You aren’t pushing back on anything because he isn’t really debating anything to push back on when you look at the motives.

And I didn’t say you were ignoring the stupid or not, I said you joined in on the stupid and instead starting contributing to the stupid because you couldn’t help yourself and just wanted to respond to his crap and give him what he was trying to do.

And you are effectively trying to drag me into your level of stupid on this now with your excuses and attempts to justify your willingness to derail the treads giving nothing of value in your posts as all you are doing to feeding a poster that no one is taking seriously anyways because they know they are lying and twisting facts.

He is trying to clutter up the page and he is kicking your ass at his game too.

You can hate being called out for it, but that doesn’t change the fact it’s true. He is kicking your ass up and down this thread in a game you refuse to admit you are playing and he will continue to kick your ass until you admit it or he gets tired as you are effectively fish in a barrel at this point with your posts being in less productive to this thread than this post of mine is right now.

Going to drop this for now, but really, pull your head out your butt and look at what he is doing and how gullible you are being in regards to him.

[PhaelixWW]

Quickie Monday report:

A suggestion: You should start reporting the 7-day totals (not just averages) and the increase thereof, rather than the daily totals. This will offset the backfill buggery because each day it will pull ALL the increases that have been added to the past week. Then you also wouldn't need to compare the daily total to a week ago.

You'd have to reference your previous post each day, because that's the only place the data will persist, but it might make for a cleaner picture.

[Edge-]

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/...an/8127797002/

The Republican infatuation with Victor Orban and Hungary continues.

"I recognize the liberal left doesn't like Hungary, but there are so many positive things about what they're doing in that country," Johnson told Insider.

The outlet asked Johnson "if he thought Orban's restrictions on free speech and civic society are still problematic."

"I think what's problematic is what's happening in this country in terms of the media censorship and the media bias," Johnson replied, according to the article.

Petty authoritarians are just fully mask-off nowadays.

[DarkTZeratul]

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/...an/8127797002/

The Republican infatuation with Victor Orban and Hungary continues.

Petty authoritarians are just fully mask-off nowadays.

Reminds me of the tweet I saw commenting that the Taliban is banning gay marriage, abortions, and vaccinations, and wondering if we were fighting on the wrong side.

[Kaleredar]

Reminds me of the tweet I saw commenting that the Taliban is banning gay marriage, abortions, and vaccinations, and wondering if we were fighting on the wrong side.

They can feel free to go live with the taliban, then.

[Howel]

Petty authoritarians are just fully mask-off nowadays.

Hey, at least you can criticize China in the US

[Belize]

Reminds me of the tweet I saw commenting that the Taliban is banning gay marriage, abortions, and vaccinations, and wondering if we were fighting on the wrong side.

Ya'llQaeda and the Taliban have more in common than they have differences

[Edge-]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN2FI20K

In which John Cornyn, an idiot (and I am too for getting the wrong John), is dunked on by Chinese media for thinking that the US has 30K troops stationed in Taiwan, so he deletes the tweet and doesn't say anything about it.

Why are these people so stupid?

[PhaelixWW]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN2FI20K

In which Ron Johnson, an idiot, is dunked on by Chinese media for thinking that the US has 30K troops stationed in Taiwan, so he deletes the tweet and doesn't say anything about it.

Why are these people so stupid?

Wrong John; it's John Cornyn, not Ron Johnson.