1. #72261
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    A violent attempted overthrow of the state government is another matter entirely, which is where they are headed if she does anything else. Its a shitty, shitty position and is nowhere near as binary as you're making it.
    1. Let them try. Didn't end up well for the others that made the attempt. Fuck 'em.
    2. "Try to mitigate the damage" versus "let it spiral out of control" is a pretty basic decision. As I said before, I admitted her position wasn't enviable at the start, but she has a job to do and isn't doing it.

    We're done here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonKing View Post
    i tell you i saw clips of Idiocracy.....and my god.....its coming true
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    i might have to go watch the movie just to keep up with republican-trumpers
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Feel like this may have been covered but...is anyone else amused that Republicans literally gave Trump a participation trophy?
    I prefer the article itself -- Senate Republicans gave Trump that award just before he started calling McConnell a dumb fucking sonofavitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    1. Let them try. Didn't end up well for the others that made the attempt. Fuck 'em.
    2. "Try to mitigate the damage" versus "let it spiral out of control" is a pretty basic decision. As I said before, I admitted her position wasn't enviable at the start, but she has a job to do and isn't doing it.

    We're done here.
    Storming the capital while armed is things spiraling out of control as well.
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    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...sident-in-2024

    As a reminder that the GOP is still the party of Trump: Establishment friendly Nikki Haley is happy to bend the knee and bow out rather than challenge Trump in 2024.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    As a reminder that the GOP is still the party of Trump: Establishment friendly Nikki Haley is happy to bend the knee and bow out rather than challenge Trump in 2024.
    They feel they have no choice. Trump is out-raising the RNC. and while he's off FB and Twitter, we've all seen the website application to have him bitch about how the election was stolen at weddings and brithday parties.

    What's left of the Republican Party could take it back from Trump, if they wanted to. But they'd have to
    a) all rush him at once, and
    b) come up with a reason for his rabid fanbase to side with the "traitors". Honestly at this point, the only thing that might turn off the rabid fanbase are Trump forcing one of his wives and/or whores to have an abortion against her will. I mean, they sided with him through an actual murderous insurrection, so something minor like "he is a felon and went to jail" won't be sufficient.

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    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...umb-son-of-a-b

    Asked about if he had any response to his parties leader calling him a "dumb son of a bitch", Minority Leader Mitch McConnell had this to say:







    That's the joke, he stayed silent as Trump moved on him like a bitch.

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    2024 is going to be... interesting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    2024 is going to be... interesting.
    I'm looking forward to the Republican party simping hard for Trump, hopefully getting absolutely clobbered, and then trying to figure out what the fuck to do next when it all starts falling apart as the fingers start getting pointed at everyone.

    Like, the likes of Nikki Haley, who was once viewed as a rising star in the Republican party and an appeal to a more diverse electorate, much like Marco Rubio once was just a few short years before her, aren't gonna be able to pretend that they didn't bend the knee for Trump at almost every turn and personally greased the wheels for Trump's triumphant return.

    It's just really showing how absolutely empty, hollow, and completely ideologically bankrupt the party that is not the actual cult of personality has become. It's hilarious thinking back to the Republican criticisms of Democrats because we thought Obama was a pretty cool cat, compared to the guy that's literally the Second Coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...umb-son-of-a-b

    Asked about if he had any response to his parties leader calling him a "dumb son of a bitch", Minority Leader Mitch McConnell had this to say:







    That's the joke, he stayed silent as Trump moved on him like a bitch.
    I would call that a win for McConnell. Don't get me wrong, I hate the SOB, but I can't help admiring how he plays the game. Not responding to the childish and literal name-calling profanities just makes McConnell the only adult in the room.

    Trump might be out fundraising Trump, but McConnell is still the statesman that Trump will so desperately never be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I'm looking forward to the Republican party simping hard for Trump, hopefully getting absolutely clobbered, and then trying to figure out what the fuck to do next when it all starts falling apart as the fingers start getting pointed at everyone.

    Like, the likes of Nikki Haley, who was once viewed as a rising star in the Republican party and an appeal to a more diverse electorate, much like Marco Rubio once was just a few short years before her, aren't gonna be able to pretend that they didn't bend the knee for Trump at almost every turn and personally greased the wheels for Trump's triumphant return.

    It's just really showing how absolutely empty, hollow, and completely ideologically bankrupt the party that is not the actual cult of personality has become. It's hilarious thinking back to the Republican criticisms of Democrats because we thought Obama was a pretty cool cat, compared to the guy that's literally the Second Coming.
    That kind of scenario would be great for 2024 - the GOP not knowing how to deal with Trump, and therefore defacto giving him the nomination for 2024. That would remove Nikki from the equation for another 8 years, and give Harris a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    I hate the SOB, but I can't help admiring how he plays the game.
    Indeed, McConnell is the ultimate whore. Nobody's taken as much money to be pissed on.

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    If you're desperate and surrounded, it's understandable you might fire blindly in all directions, hoping to hit something.

    Just don't aim at your own feet.

    In 2019 NYState passed the TRUST Act, not just allowing but requiring NYState to turn over tax returns of public officials when Congress asks, even if they're a President's. Trump's lawyers argue in court that, because Trump is no longer in the White House, this no longer applies.

    "Wait, isn't the reason it took this long because Trump's lawyers were using the protection of the White House, hence requiring the TRUST Act in the first place? Like, if Trump had just been like any other felon, this would have been over years ago?"

    Yes.

    "And isn't the reason the taxes weren't turned over while Trump was still in the White House, because he just didn't do it?"

    Well, basically, yes.

    "This is some bullshit, right here."

    Right now, Congress must give Trump a 14-day head start before getting NYState's returns, an order placed when Trump was still in charge.

    "Didn't Trump say he was going to prosecute Clinton for things she did in office, when she was out of office? He clearly doesn't believe his own rhetoric. Also his time to challenge the NYState law has come and gone."

    It has, but oddly enough, he seems to be helped by Congress not going after his NYState returns but his federal ones. I don't see why, NYState returns contain federal info and NYState would hand them over for the flimsiest excuse possible at this point. Congress is instead asking the IRS for his returns, which Biden's people will almost certainly agree to cooperate.

    Trump's actions are akin to a murderer fighting a subpoena asking for his gun, because the murder already happened so the gun isn't relevant. Trump held unPresidented power, assigning acting roles and bypassing security checks like none before. Since Trump used his own powers to block any inquiry into a security breach while it was happening, the only recourse now is to check for one after the fact.

    This attempt to prevent the truth from getting out is deoomed. Trump is surrounded.

    1) This most recent filing could easily fail, seeing as how Congress gave Trump extra protection because he was in the WH, and by his own arguments those protections should no longer apply.

    2) Or, Congress could just get Biden to hand them over, probably smiling.

    3) Or, NY's fraud case could just use them directly.

    4) Or, someone who I'll cheer for as he's taken to jail could just leak the tax returns for a lot of money and press.

    Honestly, at this point, the best way for Trump to hide his taxes and what's got to be multiple felonies and/or national security risks at this point is, well, to die. That's the only thing I can think of that will people to stop caring about all that stuff he did.

  14. #72274
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I'm looking forward to the Republican party simping hard for Trump, hopefully getting absolutely clobbered, and then trying to figure out what the fuck to do next when it all starts falling apart as the fingers start getting pointed at everyone.

    Like, the likes of Nikki Haley, who was once viewed as a rising star in the Republican party and an appeal to a more diverse electorate, much like Marco Rubio once was just a few short years before her, aren't gonna be able to pretend that they didn't bend the knee for Trump at almost every turn and personally greased the wheels for Trump's triumphant return.

    It's just really showing how absolutely empty, hollow, and completely ideologically bankrupt the party that is not the actual cult of personality has become. It's hilarious thinking back to the Republican criticisms of Democrats because we thought Obama was a pretty cool cat, compared to the guy that's literally the Second Coming.
    Trump won in 2016. There is no reason DeSantis couldn't win in 2024. Add in a republican Senate and a republican House and he'd be GOLDEN.

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    Since we don't have an election thread (glares) and this is the catch-all category for "Trump\s allies are all proven hypocrites", I'll post here.

    Local sources report that
    a) DeSantis voted remotely in 2016, when there was no outbreak and he was a US Rep at the time, and
    b) his vote was tossed because the signatures didn't match.

    In other words, not only is he foaming at the mouth about a problem that basically didn't exist, but he's personally done far worse...recently.

  16. #72276
    https://thehill.com/media/547929-you...ted-violations

    Those in the Trump orbit just can't seem to catch a break. Poor Sebastian Gorka, who as a reminder has an outstanding warrant for his arrest in Hungary where he couldn't get a government job, got his YT channel banned by those evil libruls for *double checks notes* continuing to shill the Big Lie.

    Man, these folks are going to be resorting to smoke signals and CB radio sooner rather than later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    2024 is going to be... interesting.
    The best thing that could possible happen to the GOP is for Trump to kick the bucket before 2024. Because whether or not he runs if Trump is still alive he's going to be a dominating force in the primaries which is going to result in a candidate the base loves but the general electorate loathes.

  18. #72278
    Monday's quick report:

    56,522 new cases, 460 deaths, bringing the total to 576,298. Both numbers are down a bit from the previous Monday, but given that Monday's reports are usually wildly inaccurate I wouldn't read much into it.

    Related news:

    Covid cases are rising in more than half of U.S. states, despite ramp-up in vaccinations

    Michigan again reported the highest level of daily new infections on a per capita basis, according to a CNBC analysis of Johns Hopkins data. On Monday, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said the state should "shut things down" as it deals with the surge and that a boost in Covid-19 vaccinations alone will not stop the spread of the virus.

    Michigan is recording nearly 7,300 average daily new cases, close to the state's pandemic high of more than 8,300 per day in December. Hospitalizations and deaths are also on the rise in the state.
    Stay safe, folks.

  19. #72279
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I'm looking forward to the Republican party simping hard for Trump, hopefully getting absolutely clobbered, and then trying to figure out what the fuck to do next when it all starts falling apart as the fingers start getting pointed at everyone.

    Like, the likes of Nikki Haley, who was once viewed as a rising star in the Republican party and an appeal to a more diverse electorate, much like Marco Rubio once was just a few short years before her, aren't gonna be able to pretend that they didn't bend the knee for Trump at almost every turn and personally greased the wheels for Trump's triumphant return.

    It's just really showing how absolutely empty, hollow, and completely ideologically bankrupt the party that is not the actual cult of personality has become. It's hilarious thinking back to the Republican criticisms of Democrats because we thought Obama was a pretty cool cat, compared to the guy that's literally the Second Coming.
    The danger is that without Covid and Trump being President Democratic turnout is lower and he actually has a chance of winning.

    No one thought he had a chance the first time and he won, He wasn't supposed to have a chance the second time and it was close.
    I don't see a reason to think he can't win 2024 if he is the Republican candidate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://thehill.com/media/547929-you...ted-violations

    Those in the Trump orbit just can't seem to catch a break. Poor Sebastian Gorka, who as a reminder has an outstanding warrant for his arrest in Hungary where he couldn't get a government job, got his YT channel banned by those evil libruls for *double checks notes* continuing to shill the Big Lie.

    Man, these folks are going to be resorting to smoke signals and CB radio sooner rather than later.
    I was going to say, last I knew, he still had it, didn't realize that was from today lol. Good the shitlord needs to be deplatformed just like Trump.

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