Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Levelfive]

Not gonna lie, I'm genuinely curious for the 2022 elections to see how the covid deaths impact voting in some of the slightly purple-ish states. Have Republicans managed to kill off enough of their base to lose power? Tune in on Nov. 2020 to find out!

They don't care about killing their own voters or anyone else since a) they're sociopaths b) they and everyone close to them is vaccinated and has the best health care taxpayer money and frozen fish fiefdoms can buy c) they will likely successfully gerrymander / install lackeys at various steps of the election infrastructure d) if they can prolong the pandemic enough and wholesale shift blame to Biden for the case numbers and deaths, they can probably pick up enough dissatisfied "independents" to make up any difference.

[Lenonis]

Miami Herald: Florida’s next surgeon general opposes mask, vaccine mandates

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He said the state should be supporting many measures for good health: “vaccination, losing weight, exercising more [and] eating more fruits and vegetables.”

What is a shame here is that lost in the wharblegarble is a decent point. The path to good health is indeed more than just vaccination -- the american public would benefit a ton from losing weight, exercising more, and having a good diet.

What's unfortunately is this is CLEARLY just an attempt to cater to the "I'm healthy so I don't need a vaccine" crowd which is false false false. Because EVEN if that were true the vaccine isn't just about you stupid. You are also protecting others. Something conservatives seem to be absolutely unable to grasp...the idea that you should do something beneficial for others even if you don't directly benefit. Completely foreign to them.

[Levelfive]

Especially these parts:



The word for this is "dictatorship". If you're allowed to challenge votes against you, and then using evidence of those challenges (not the results, the challenges themselves) to claim there are no valid electors, then you are proving democracy doesn't matter.

[...]

To put it another way: let's assume Obama/Biden saw the results in 2016 and did the same thing?

"Well there weren't 26 blue states--"

Not the point. What if Biden had said "Florida and Texas are too close to call, plus Some Guy On Twitter said he saw a white guy in a hoodie moving boxes, I'm throwing them out, my close personal friend Clinton wins"? Republicans would have been livid, and rightly so. That's not America. That's not even Mexico.

If this memo exists, it must be found and made public. In the meantime, I wouldn't mind seeing Graham, Lee, and Pence under oath testifying to exactly this situation. They'll refuse, and we'll immediately know what that refusal means.

I'm sure when Kamala pulls this definitely Constitutionally-sound stunt, they'll all rally around her in full-throated defense. No, of course she won't, and no, of course they wouldn't. And yes we knew this was their plan, but seeing it in cold, calculating black and white like this is another matter entirely. As to Pence, it was Dan Quayle who saved democracy. Dan. Quayle. And to be perfectly frank, I can't tell if that's the final proof that I invented this entire timeline, or final proof that I didn't.

ETA: Just going to say again that buy-in from conservative elites and intellectuals is a necessary component of ascendant fascism.

[Breccia]

Like, the words... I don't even...

1) Which fruit kills COVID again?
2) "people don't get to make their own decisions on issues of health" yeah bullshit, Florida has a seatbelt law. Name a non-medical reason for that.

[Lenonis]

"people don't get to make their own decisions on issues of health"

I just flat out don't understand this "logic". What medical degree did everyone magically since covid started? Since when are people even remotely well informed enough to diagnose and treat illness?

There has never been a point in 99.999% of people's lives that we make our own decisions on issues of health.

[Breccia]

What medical degree did everyone magically since covid started?

I mean, maybe it was there before but we didn't see it because it wasn't a suicide pact? Regardless, it would be interesting to see this in other areas. "A cast and crutches? Nah, give me some vitamin C and I'll be okay."

Also, the option everyone's choosing to take is "get sick, nearly die, then take random shit from a veterenarian, Joe Rogan, or ECMO sci-fy cyborg machine". If vaccines were going to microchip you, you'd have MMReceived it by now.

[swiftowner]

It's Florida.

Biden vaccine push so far has failed to increase COVID shots delivered in Florida



We know a fifth wave is coming.

Could they cut federal funding to *ALL* states, as a percentage of the states population that is eligible and is vaccinated? Oh? You need 10bil in federal funding, but your population is only 40% vaccinated? You get 4bil and get to figure out the remainder on your own.

I mean, it does punish people who have been vaccinated as well, but more reason for them to tell their neighbors to quit being fucking idiots and get vaccinated? I’m just unsure how to incentivize people to get vaccinated at this point who don’t want to… maybe when it starts financially hurting their state and their pockets?

[Breccia]

Could they cut federal funding to *ALL* states, as a percentage of the states population that is eligible and is vaccinated?

No.

If you can't cut funding for sanctuary cities, you can't cut funding for a suicide cult.

[swiftowner]

No.

If you can't cut funding for sanctuary cities, you can't cut funding for a suicide cult.

Fair. It’s hard to figure out how to convince people to get vaccinated who are willfully ignorant and oppose getting vaccinated.

[solinari6]

No.

If you can't cut funding for sanctuary cities, you can't cut funding for a suicide cult.

Well you could certainly give states BONUS funding, based off on what percentage of their people are vaccinated.

[PhaelixWW]

Well you could certainly give states BONUS funding, based off on what percentage of their people are vaccinated.

McTurtle would go door-do-door jabbing Kentuckians for that, I'm sure.

Anything for a free government buck, but down with socialism, amirite?

[Edge-]

One would hope, but given that "demon sperm makes you infertile" lady still has a medical license, I'm skeptical.

So it's funny I mentioned this lady...

https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desanti...-video-1631372

Because apparently the new Surgeon General was in that stupid "America's Frontline Doctors" video alongside her last year. Remember, the one that said that hydroxy cured you and said masks don't work and that covid is less deadly than the flu.

Republicans just like killing people, I guess.

[Hollycakes]

I just flat out don't understand this "logic". What medical degree did everyone magically since covid started? Since when are people even remotely well informed enough to diagnose and treat illness?

There has never been a point in 99.999% of people's lives that we make our own decisions on issues of health.

I'm seeing them call this "freethinker" now.
One of the moms who just died had it all over her social media.
They "think for themselves" and as one of them put it are "unvaxxed, unmuzzled and proud!"
Those girls calling themselves pureblood who believe their blood will be liquid gold in the future?
They figured that out all by themselves by connecting internet dots.
Proudly wearing the badge of ignorance and confusing it with thought.

I think it was David Mitchell who made the joke about people like that being unburdened with a higher education.
People really do think that their own "common sense" outweighs actual facts/science/education.

[Edge-]

They "think for themselves" and as one of them put it are "unvaxxed, unmuzzled and proud!"

Unvaxed
Recently Waxed
Ready to Climax!

Saw some lady in that shirt and I was very close to hanging up my sexuality for the rest of my life.

People really do think that their own "common sense" outweighs actual facts/science/education.

Folksy, down home, common-sense country wisdom. Brought to you in part thanks to Sarah "I read all the newspapers, you know, all of them, just all of them." Palin.

[Breccia]

“I can see Covid from my front porch, I’m an expert.” - Sarah Palin… probably

Um...yes. I posted recently she caught COVID and was giving interviews about how natural antibodies were stronger. Granted, there was a recent study suggesting she's right. But you get the natural antibodies by, yep, catching COVID and not dying.

Which going on 700,000 people can't do anymore.

[PhaelixWW]

Um...yes. I posted recently she caught COVID and was giving interviews about how natural antibodies were stronger. Granted, there was a recent study suggesting she's right.

I mean, that's kind of a gross mischaracterization of the results of the study. Not that I'm blaming you, because that's the attempted takeaway that an awful lot of people are having over it (mostly because that's what they want to believe), which is coloring how it's described in the media.


Regardless...

But you get the natural antibodies by, yep, catching COVID and not dying.

Which going on 700,000 people can't do anymore.

...yeah, that.

[Hollycakes]

Saw some lady in that shirt and I was very close to hanging up my sexuality for the rest of my life.

I laughed too hard at this.
Maga hats have the same effect on me.
Also, anyone with truck nuts.

[Breccia]

I mean, that's kind of a gross mischaracterization of the results of the study.

I didn't bother to read the study. I just assumed, like most fact-deniers, that it was cherry-picked to fit the narrative.

...oh my God, the fruit that kills COVID is cherries!

[Edge-]

...oh my God, the fruit that kills COVID is cherries!

Is it a surprise? Those suckers are dangerous. One second you're eating one, trying to get the seed ready to spit as far as you can in the "cherry seed spitting contest", the next thing you know that sucker is lodged in your throat and you're flailing about on the ground gasping for air and desperately hoping there's someone around to give you the Heimlich.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5...ay-segregation

Dear white people in America, especially white people in America who didn't live through the Civil Rights battle: Please shut the fuck up and don't compare anything to segregation to portray yourselves as victims.

Literally ever.

Best Regards,
Go fuck yourselves you pieces of shit

Of course it's fucking Cawthorn, the guy elected to the House who has made it clear that he has absolutely zero legislative agendas or goals and that he's purely in this for the fame and money of being a political celebrity.

[RaoBurning]

Fair. It’s hard to figure out how to convince people to get vaccinated who are willfully ignorant and oppose getting vaccinated.

Wait, wait. I've got it. The new Biden Administration Vaccination Slogan: "Get your shots so you can survive long enough to try voting me out." Implied, but not stated: "you idiot cowards."

Brilliant. Or just super spiteful, I don't know.