Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Benggaul]

"Why do you post COVID stuff in the Trump thread? GAWSH!"

White House virologist was reassigned from Covid to election fraud by 2020 obsessed Trump, new emails reveal

Because of shit like that, you disingenuous fly-by troll.

Pathologist Steven Hatfill, who advised the then-White House trade director Peter Navarro, repeatedly complained that “election stuff” was taking precedence over the plan to contain the coronavirus crisis.

“Now with the elections so close, Covid is taking a back seat, yet the disease is rearing it[s] ugly head again,” Dr Hatfill said in emails in October 2020. These emails were obtained by the House select subcommittee investigating Trump administration’s coronavirus response and were accessed by The Washington Post.

Subsequent emails showed a shift in Dr Hatfill’s own priorities as his focus moved to the former president’s election challenges.

In one email, he detailed his travel plans to Arizona following a close election in the state with 11 electoral votes.

In yet another email following the electoral win of Mr Biden, Dr Hatfill said that he personally “shifted over to the election fraud investigation in November.” Since losing the November 2020 elections, Mr Trump and many of his supporters alleged poll fraud but all their legal challenges have failed.

A day before the 6 January Capitol riots, when a colleague at George Washington University wrote to him asking why he was not “fixing the virus”, the virologist said: “Because the election thing got out of control. I go where my team goes.”

Dr Hatfill was among the first to sound an alarm about the pandemic and show his skepticism regarding the White House’s response to it.

There's more to the article but the vein in my forehead was throbbing too much to continue. Peruse on your own.

[Breccia]

I'm glad @cubby is nearby, because Trump is asking for his Google/YouTube lawsuit to stay in Florida not move to California and I'd like his take on this:

Trump agreed to YouTube’s Terms of Service

It sounds pretty black and white to me.

[solinari6]

Trump agreed to YouTube’s Terms of Service

It sounds pretty black and white to me.

Not sure about YouTube, but his claim with twitter is that the TOS didn't apply to him as a government entity:

This policy does not apply to military or government entities and we will consider exceptions for groups that are currently engaging in (or have engaged in) peaceful resolution.

If you look at the twitter rules, this particular carve-out applies to their Violence and Physical Harm rule. It could be argued that his PERSONAL account got banned, but they already declared that his personal twitter account was posting official government statements, so I dunno. I don't think it's enough for him to win this, but it might be enough for him to at least get his foot in the door. I'm guessing there were more than enough twitter violations of other types to justify a ban.

[Hollycakes]

https://twitter.com/scottwongDC/stat...31615394168840

And today in, "Republican politics is purely performative and there is no substance, policy, or desire to actually legislate." - Greene decided to heckle a group of Democrats holding a press conference on the Capitol steps.

Why? Probably a few reasons.

1. She has nothing better to do. No, seriously. Remember she's not on any committees, and while she has a Legislative Director (unlike someone like Madison Cawthorn who doesn't even have one), she seems remarkably unproductive.

2. This is pretty much the only way she can get attention, and she's desperate for media attention. Much like other attention hungry conservative like Ann Coulter, she doesn't really have much of a career if she's not in national news. She doesn't have any accomplishments of her own to bring back to constituents or promote, just stunts like this and bad posters based on Scooby Doo.

3. Because this is all an act and she's bored, and getting into "NO U" arguments with Democrats is the highlight of her day.

This is the intellectual depth of the modern Republican party under Trump.

The fact she claimed she's been the most effective member of congress this session is truly stunning.
Also, lol Vegas.

Edit:
Also Brecc, you didn't post this bit from the Rudy article!

"In a 2018 FBI deposition that became public last month, Giuliani admitted he would push lies about HILLARY CLINTON on Fox News, referring to it as “throwing a fake.”"

[Breccia]

"In a 2018 FBI deposition that became public last month, Giuliani admitted he would push lies about HILLARY CLINTON on Fox News, referring to it as “throwing a fake.”"

Deplorable behavior. Of course, lying to the American people isn't illegal. They're civil, you have to sue.

[Hollycakes]

I know everyone here knows but:

The kraken lawyer saying no reasonable person would believe her.
The Tuckerface performance art deposition.
This lie of throwing fakes.
The hidden cam confessionals along with the election lies.
MTG existing at all, in any space or time of politics.
etc. etc. I know I'm missing tons like non existent WMD's.

It's just insane that republicans still believe.
Insane.
How fucking long did they chant lock her up.

[Bluespiderman57]

Well guys, it finally happened. We have finally gone around the bend. We have finally come full circle.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...accine/620189/

At Breitbart News, the politics of vaccination have taken a strange turn. A longtime writer at the populist-right website who wants to save his Donald Trump–supporting readers from COVID-19 is speculating that the left has tricked them into rejecting safe and effective vaccines.

John Nolte is vaccinated himself and, in an article this week, correctly notes that the shots are “a lifesaver.” But every time he touts what he calls the “Trump vaccine,” his Twitter feed and comment threads on his articles get flooded with irrational arguments and unfounded assertions from anti-vaxxers, he writes. That’s no surprise. The populist-right milieu that Nolte inhabits includes lots of influential voices that spread misinformation about vaccines on Fox News, talk radio, and Facebook. For example, America’s most prominent populist commentator, the Fox host Tucker Carlson, has been amplifying Nicki Minaj’s thirdhand claim that a vaccine had swollen her cousin’s friend’s testicles.

In Nolte’s account, however, a conspiracy of evil leftist elites are to blame for vaccine skepticism on the right. “I sincerely believe the organized left is doing everything in its power to convince Trump supporters NOT to get the life-saving Trump vaccine,” Nolte writes. They are “putting unvaccinated Trump supporters in an impossible position,” he insists, “where they can either NOT get a life-saving vaccine or CAN feel like cucks caving to the ugliest, smuggest bullies in the world.”

That's right. A conspiracy of of leftist elites are tricking millions of Trumps votes into not getting the Covid-19 vaccine......by telling them to get the vaccine. That....is the level of delusion we are reaching huh? I mean, I think alot of us know we would reach this level eventually, but I thought it wouldn't be at least until the next election and the deaths really started affecting the Republicans in the races.

I guess this guy is just laying the ground work earlier. The story has to make sense.

[Edge-]

I guess this guy is just laying the ground work earlier. The story has to make sense.

When "not getting cucked and mocked by the left" is literally worth dying over, apparently.

[s_bushido]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...accine/620189/

A longtime writer at the populist-right website who wants to save his Donald Trump–supporting readers from COVID-19 is speculating that the left has tricked them into rejecting safe and effective vaccines.

I'm not sure there's any better response to that.

[Breccia]

A conspiracy of of leftist elites are tricking millions of Trumps votes into not getting the Covid-19 vaccine......by telling them to get the vaccine.

No, no, that's false.

...they also got the vaccine themselves. That's right: we tricked the rabid fanbase into getting sick and dying, by not just saying "take the medicine" but actually taking the medicine.

Now I will admit, it's pretty easy to "bully" (eyeroll) someone into taking the medicine that will save their lives by pointing at the studies that show it works, and the state-by-state deaths per capita. But you know who's even easier to bully? Dead people. Someone who doesn't take the vaccine, gets COVID and dies? Yeah, they don't even try to fight back. It's hilarious.

[gondrin]

Well guys, it finally happened. We have finally gone around the bend. We have finally come full circle.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...accine/620189/



That's right. A conspiracy of of leftist elites are tricking millions of Trumps votes into not getting the Covid-19 vaccine......by telling them to get the vaccine. That....is the level of delusion we are reaching huh? I mean, I think alot of us know we would reach this level eventually, but I thought it wouldn't be at least until the next election and the deaths really started affecting the Republicans in the races.

I guess this guy is just laying the ground work earlier. The story has to make sense.

Remember folks, if a Dem tells you to do it, not only must you do it the complete opposite way, but you have to go full head on into a wall while doing it. Or so I've heard from various alt-right peoples.

Honestly, this is something a child does when it doesn't want to do something you tell them.

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When "not getting cucked and mocked by the left" is literally worth dying over, apparently.

Funny thing is, a more accurate statement would be "Not getting cucked and mocked by the right for listening to the left".

[Hollycakes]

I'd lol but
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And did the dude really use cucked.
This is weirdly similar to when I hear them say "If dems have nothing to hide, why are they trying to stop it" kind of logic.
Fucking pretzels.

[beanman12345]

When "not getting cucked and mocked by the left" is literally worth dying over, apparently.

Shame they end up getting cucked anyways by admitting defeat and clogging up the hospital hallways only to last minute regret not being cucked in the first place when they do die.

[cubby]

I'm glad @cubby is nearby, because Trump is asking for his Google/YouTube lawsuit to stay in Florida not move to California and I'd like his take on this:

Trump agreed to YouTube’s Terms of Service

It sounds pretty black and white to me.

As you pointed out, this is straightforward contract law. Did he buy a service? Yes. Did he sign a document agreeing to that service? Yes. Were there conditions he agreed to in order to use that completely arbitrary and voluntary service? Yes.

Agreeing to venue ahead of time by accepting the terms of service/membership is a solid strategic move for the future defendant. In this case, you can bet your Trump University Law Degree that Google and Facebook's attorneys put in near bullet proof language to compel any and all disputes to be required to take place in California.

Done and done.

[Breccia]

Done and done.

I mean...it seems like, when looking at any legal dispute, there's a 90% win rate by just betting against Trump.

[cubby]

I mean...it seems like, when looking at any legal dispute, there's a 90% win rate by just betting against Trump.

You could probably make some serious side cash cozying up to Trumpkins and betting against Trump with them on law suits. Probably wouldn't get paid, but who ever does when it comes to those dipshits.

[PhaelixWW]

I mean...it seems like, when looking at any legal dispute, there's a 90% win rate by just betting against Trump.

You don't get to be as SLAPP-happy as Trump without winning an awful lot of legal disputes. It's both weird and telling that his win rate plummeted upon becoming President.

Normally, one would expect the opposite.

[Elegiac]

Well guys, it finally happened. We have finally gone around the bend. We have finally come full circle.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...accine/620189/

That's right. A conspiracy of of leftist elites are tricking millions of Trumps votes into not getting the Covid-19 vaccine......by telling them to get the vaccine. That....is the level of delusion we are reaching huh? I mean, I think alot of us know we would reach this level eventually, but I thought it wouldn't be at least until the next election and the deaths really started affecting the Republicans in the races.

I guess this guy is just laying the ground work earlier. The story has to make sense.

"I can't get vaccinated because liberals would be smug about it" has to be the most ratbrained form of logic I've seen in quite a while, Christ and Allah.

[Edge-]

"I can't get vaccinated because liberals would be smug about it" has to be the most ratbrained form of logic I've seen in quite a while, Christ and Allah.

It's like literal toddlers. You tell them not to do something like put their hand on a hot stove, and the dumber ones won't listen and will want to try it themselves, maybe to "prove you wrong".

It's kinda disturbing how similar the mentality of these folks is to literal toddlers, almost like they stopped cognitive developed at a very, very, very, very young age.

[Elegiac]

It's like literal toddlers. You tell them not to do something like put their hand on a hot stove, and the dumber ones won't listen and will want to try it themselves, maybe to "prove you wrong".

It's kinda disturbing how similar the mentality of these folks is to literal toddlers, almost like they stopped cognitive developed at a very, very, very, very young age.

How much do you want to bet they stopped developing at the point the lead poisoning/opiate addiction kicked in?