1. #73581
    Quote Originally Posted by solinari6 View Post
    I imagine a couple of Republican House members in deep red Trump districts are suddenly very scared he might primary them to get into the House, even if the chance of him trying it is very low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Pretty sure Moscow Mitch wouldn't just give power to Trump in that regard if he went to more of a minion role.
    McConnell is Republican Senate leader, not the House.
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  2. #73582
    Quote Originally Posted by solinari6 View Post
    It makes sense. In his demented 'know nothing' head he probably thinks... Biden impeached = tRump automatically reinstated back to president

  3. #73583
    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    It makes sense. In his demented 'know nothing' head he probably thinks... Biden impeached = tRump automatically reinstated back to president
    Technically he'd be right,he just needs to impeach Harris as well,then the Speaker becomes President and finishes the term.

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  4. #73584
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    The dead cops aren't laughing at you.

    I should think if they reached the point of injuring Pence (one if their targets) this conversation would be different...or would it?
    Mind pointing me at which dead cops they killed? Far as I’m aware there was a stroke and a suicide. Amongst the rioters we have a heart attack, a meth overdose, and an unarmed woman shot in the head by the cops.

  5. #73585
    Quote Originally Posted by D3thray View Post
    Mind pointing me at which dead cops they killed? Far as I’m aware there was a stroke and a suicide. Amongst the rioters we have a heart attack, a meth overdose, and an unarmed woman shot in the head by the cops.
    its odd, republican's against an officer using necessary force....
    I am shocked you are against stand your ground type actions.

    In the gun thread all day they talk about the wonders and beauty of being able to shoot someone in the head if they are trying to break into your home/business/car or rob/punch you but all of a sudden doing this is wrong?

    Man i wish you people would make up your minds already.
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

  6. #73586
    https://thehill.com/regulation/court...filing-lawsuit

    An attorney for MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell has left the law firm he worked for one day after filing a suit on behalf his client against voting technology companies Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic.

    Bloomberg News reported on Friday that attorney Alec Beck was not authorized by Barnes & Thornburg LLP to file the lawsuit in a Minnesota federal court.

    In a statement shared with The Hill, the firm said it “became aware of the filing of the complaint which was done without receiving firm authorization pursuant to internal firm approval procedures.”

    “The firm has withdrawn as local counsel in this matter and has ended the client relationship. The attorney representing the client in this matter is no longer with the firm,” the statement said.
    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

  7. #73587
    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    Man i wish you people would make up your minds already.
    It's even better, since they'll happily accept the conclusion of the medical examiner when it gets them off the hook in this instance, but will still swear up and down that Floyd died of an overdose, despite literally all of the evidence to the contrary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3thray View Post
    Mind pointing me at which dead cops they killed? Far as I’m aware there was a stroke and a suicide. Amongst the rioters we have a heart attack, a meth overdose, and an unarmed woman shot in the head by the cops.
    It's a reminder that unarmed people killed by cops is not an instant judgement against the use of force.

    Dead cops is an exaggeration, and nobody truly thinks that cops dying of strokes after shocking incidents (insurrection, riots, what have you) can be laid at the feet of insurrectionists and rioters. The other insulting and indefensible actions of the insurrectionists stand just as appalling absent a real body count.
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    Trump supporters are liars and deniers...so why waste time?

  10. #73590
    Quote Originally Posted by solinari6 View Post
    Well he'd have to move, again, because his district is DEEP blue. OTOH he technically doesn't even have to run, if the Greedy Old Pervert's win majority, if, they could just put Trump as speaker even if he's not an incumbent. Doubt it'll happen unless basically all democrats and independents just sit home and every single swing district goes trump Q red, meaning if the GQP does win the majority in the house, it'll be super tight close majority, like 3-4 seats(remember 10 republicans voted to impeach the MF), and to be speaker you need the majority of the entire house, not just the majority of your party. Which is why I don't see him or McCarthy being speaker even if they win back the house.

    Then again, Republicans are flip flop spineless jellyfish, so those 10 republicans if re-elected would probably put Trump in as speaker, even if ends up in a cell at Rikers.

  11. #73591
    Quote Originally Posted by D3thray View Post
    Mind pointing me at which dead cops they killed? Far as I’m aware there was a stroke and a suicide. Amongst the rioters we have a heart attack, a meth overdose, and an unarmed woman shot in the head by the cops.
    She wasn't shot in the head, she was shot in the neck, for trying to get into a room full of lawmakers, including Republican ones that stated it was a clean shoot, and she was told multiple times to get down. She got what she deserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    It's a reminder that unarmed people killed by cops is not an instant judgement against the use of force.

    Dead cops is an exaggeration, and nobody truly thinks that cops dying of strokes after shocking incidents (insurrection, riots, what have you) can be laid at the feet of insurrectionists and rioters. The other insulting and indefensible actions of the insurrectionists stand just as appalling absent a real body count.
    "sHe ShOuLd HaVe JuSt CoMpLiEd". She was told not to climb through the window multiple times, and she caught a bullet for it. Dumbass got what she deserved, especially violating her oath to the constitution.

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    She wasn't shot in the head, she was shot in the neck, for trying to get into a room full of lawmakers, including Republican ones that stated it was a clean shoot, and she was told multiple times to get down. She got what she deserved.

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    "sHe ShOuLd HaVe JuSt CoMpLiEd". She was told not to climb through the window multiple times, and she caught a bullet for it. Dumbass got what she deserved, especially violating her oath to the constitution.
    and unlike in most cases, we actually have a full video of it, and not just the cop saying it, and the video being with held to "protect an investigation"
    "Law and Order", lots of places have had that, Russia, North Korea, Saddam's Iraq.
    Laws can be made to enforce order of cruelty and brutality.
    Equality and Justice, that is how you have peace and a society that benefits all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    It's a reminder that unarmed people killed by cops is not an instant judgement against the use of force.

    Dead cops is an exaggeration, and nobody truly thinks that cops dying of strokes after shocking incidents (insurrection, riots, what have you) can be laid at the feet of insurrectionists and rioters. The other insulting and indefensible actions of the insurrectionists stand just as appalling absent a real body count.
    "Just because our clients broke several federal laws with the intent of harming and potentially killing people and took actions that happened to result in people dying (and they wouldn't have died if our clients hadn't done those things,) do you really think they're responsible for their deaths?!"

    Yeah, lots of people actually think that.

    Because most times if you're a knowing participant in a crime in which someone dies because of the risky actions you undertook, you generally get put on the hook for first-degree murder.

    Frankly, every single person that broke into the capitol building should be on the docket for treason and thank their lucky stars that whatever sentence they get isn't them being hanged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    It's even better, since they'll happily accept the conclusion of the medical examiner when it gets them off the hook in this instance, but will still swear up and down that Floyd died of an overdose, despite literally all of the evidence to the contrary.
    In a way it's logically consistant; since both excuses takes the blame right off 'their' guys and puts it on the victim's bodily health just-so-happening to fail due to underlying medical conditions that seemed otherwise fine until exposed to very-specific duress in the presence of right-wing nutjobs.

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    Actually with this excuse you can also apply it to their general view of COVID: Sure Right-wing leadership let the disease fester, but the lethality is overblown and if you happened to die from it you were going to die anyway so sucks to be you.

    Because why bother to take any responsibility for anything when you can just blame literally everything else?

  15. #73595
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanrefni View Post
    Technically he'd be right,he just needs to impeach Harris as well,then the Speaker becomes President and finishes the term.

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    And would have to basically impeach her at the exact same time or she could just nominate another VP immediately upon taking her oath as president.

  16. #73596
    Quote Originally Posted by kaid View Post
    And would have to basically impeach her at the exact same time or she could just nominate another VP immediately upon taking her oath as president.
    Who would have to be confirmed by a majority of both houses of congress before they could assume the role.

  17. #73597
    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    It makes sense. In his demented 'know nothing' head he probably thinks... Biden impeached = tRump automatically reinstated back to president
    He can think that all he wants, but much like how he should have been removed, impeachment doesn't mean anything other then stating that you suck at your job and you need to be removed from it for X reason. It is the Senate that has all the power there to remove whomever is the President.

    I've stated before that generally Articles of Impeachment are either talked about or brought forth for nearly every president in the last 40 years in some way, shape or form. Unless the Senate has 67 Republican senators, there is no chance of anyone being removed. None.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    Unless the Senate has 67 Republican senators, there is no chance of anyone being removed. None.
    You're assuming they don't give their seditionist lunatics a better plan than the first try and have them just kill all the Democratic senators.

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  19. #73599
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    "Just because our clients broke several federal laws with the intent of harming and potentially killing people and took actions that happened to result in people dying (and they wouldn't have died if our clients hadn't done those things,) do you really think they're responsible for their deaths?!"

    Yeah, lots of people actually think that.

    Because most times if you're a knowing participant in a crime in which someone dies because of the risky actions you undertook, you generally get put on the hook for first-degree murder.

    Frankly, every single person that broke into the capitol building should be on the docket for treason and thank their lucky stars that whatever sentence they get isn't them being hanged.
    Oof. I really wouldn't want to defend every stressful police situation (riots and assaults included) and wait until the next day's heart attacks and strokes to determine (and here we have the logical leap) that, but for yesterday's activities, the policeman would've been alive. You'd be blaming police deaths on quite a few innocents and be up a creek without a paddle. Interesting legal theories there though, good read.

    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    "sHe ShOuLd HaVe JuSt CoMpLiEd". She was told not to climb through the window multiple times, and she caught a bullet for it. Dumbass got what she deserved, especially violating her oath to the constitution.
    You do understand that my post--that sometimes an unarmed person is justifiably killed by police despite not having a weapon--supports your conclusion. Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    Oof. I really wouldn't want to defend every stressful police situation (riots and assaults included) and wait until the next day's heart attacks and strokes to determine (and here we have the logical leap) that, but for yesterday's activities, the policeman would've been alive.

    Yeah I'm gonna assume that number is astoundingly small.

    You'd be blaming police deaths on quite a few innocents and be up a creek without a paddle. Interesting legal theories there though, good read.

    Their intent was clearly to cause harm. Harm was caused. Punish them for the harm.

    And let's be clear, nobody that forced their way into the capitol building was "an innocent."
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