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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    He was. As Lindsey Graham has also proven, just because you're vaccinated doesn't make you 100% immune -- just more resistant. Powell was 84 and someone brought COVID to him, and killed him. Big surprise, Trump's rabid fanbase will blame the vaccine and not the person who killed Colin Powell.

    As for the other part, it's true that Powell's legacy will always be...let's say "mixed" because it's too soon after his death for me to explain how I really feel.
    Powell had cancer, which compromised his immune system. And while its true no vaccine makes you 100% immune, it prepares your immune system to target and destroy the virus quickly (in this case, before it destroys your lungs). So yeah, weak immune system makes for a weak immune response, however Powell would still be alive today if the people around him bothered to get vaccinated or wear masks.

    Make no mistake it wasn't covid that killed Powell. Ignorant conservatives killed Powell, with covid, at some kind of fundraiser I assume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by For_The_Horde View Post
    Make no mistake it wasn't covid that killed Powell. Ignorant conservatives killed Powell, with covid, at some kind of fundraiser I assume.
    Or a health care worker that was supposed to get vaccinated for their job, but "I just don't want to". Honestly, there are a lot of stupid ways to kill someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Or a health care worker that was supposed to get vaccinated for their job, but "I just don't want to". Honestly, there are a lot of stupid ways to kill someone.
    As a healthcare worker, I still can't understand why these people can call themselves healthcare workers and not believe in medicine. All to appease some kind of orange flavored fascism? I mean what's next, teachers who don't believe in science? First responders who don't believe in public safety? Wait a minute...

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    Quote Originally Posted by For_The_Horde View Post
    As a healthcare worker, I still can't understand why these people can call themselves healthcare workers and not believe in medicine. All to appease some kind of orange flavored fascism? I mean what's next, teachers who don't believe in science? First responders who don't believe in public safety? Wait a minute...
    To quote the Biology teacher my freshman year of HS in a shithole small town in Michigan, circa 1992: I'm required to teach you about the theory of evolution, but we all know what really happened.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    To quote the Biology teacher my freshman year of HS in a shithole small town in Michigan, circa 1992: I'm required to teach you about the theory of evolution, but we all know what really happened.
    Same in my small town in Florida.

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    Quote Originally Posted by For_The_Horde View Post
    I mean what's next
    What's next is FOX News saying in public that Colin Powell's death means vaccines don't work.

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    This is one of the times I might actually believe they chalked up an unrelated cause of death as COVID - in this case, his black soul.

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    It's a travesty that dangerous idiots like him and Rogan get through it with mild symptoms so that they can feel even more confident as they spread dangerous misinformation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    declaring that he was trying to get infected.
    Because, you know, a free easily-accessible basically no-risk vaccine would just be SOCIALISM! A True Patriot risks death rather than trying to protect their fellow man!

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    Biden formally challenges the Texass abortion law at the Supreme Court.

    Texas’s insistence that no party can bring a suit challenging S.B. 8 amounts to an assertion that the federal courts are powerless to halt the State’s ongoing nullification of federal law. That proposition is as breathtaking as it is dangerous.
    That's right, in case you missed it, forgot, or are a disingenuous poster and need it shoved in your face so you can't pretend to have missed it or forgot, Texas tried some M:tG shit like "this spell cannot be the target of spells or effects" that doesn't actually work in real life. You know who says "you cannot challenge this law"? Fascists. That's right, anyone who lives in Texas, your state passed a law with "cannot be challenged" in it in an intentional attempt to remove your civil rights. Not mine. Yours. Oh, and of course the women whose bodies the law tries to run without their permission, but we've already covered that.

    If this law can do that, any law can do that. Imagine a situation where Biden and the Democrats pass the ACA, but also add "nobody can remove the ACA" to the end? Admit it: that'd be just as bad.

    Condemn this fascism now, Texans, if you haven't already. Or, by failing to condemn it, admit you support fascisms and are therefore a fascists. There is no middle ground, with fascism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Because, you know, a free easily-accessible basically no-risk vaccine would just be SOCIALISM! A True Patriot risks death rather than trying to protect their fellow man!
    Someone should really point out to them that the easiest way to have avoided needing huge government stimulus packages would have been for everyone to get the damn vaccine in the first place.

    I guess anti-vaxxers are pro-government spending. Who knew?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Someone should really point out to them that the easiest way to have avoided needing huge government stimulus packages would have been for everyone to get the damn vaccine in the first place.

    I guess anti-vaxxers are pro-government spending. Who knew?
    Is that really surprising when all these pro-lifers refuse to take a vaccine but swear by a treatment that was developed using dead baby juice?
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    In another shove-it-in-your-face moment most of us already know and admit we know, Trump was informally deposed today by--

    "Wait, you mean formally deposed."

    No, he did it via camera and, last story I cited at least, there would be no cross-examination. This is informal shit.

    As a reminder, Trump is being sued for something he's accused of from 2015. He stalled and used Executive Time while in office, which should have been illegal because he wasn't in office for the event in question. He tried to use Executive Time after, too, but at least now he's on the record.
    @cubby any corrections plus your insight are welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Is that really surprising when all these pro-lifers refuse to take a vaccine but swear by a treatment that was developed using dead baby juice?
    But you see, those dead babies went to Jebas. So it's OK if it saved their lives. Magic Dead Baby Juice.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    dude got the anti body treatment (which acts the exact same way the vaccine does...) or at least says he did, I'm not convinced he didn't get the vaccine before hand. Dennis is a ghoul but not some idiot like all of those Rush Limbaugh knock offs that actually didn't take the vaccine and ended up croaking. but I wouldn't put it past him to really be that deranged and sociopathic to intend to get himself and as many other people sick as he could.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    To quote the Biology teacher my freshman year of HS in a shithole small town in Michigan, circa 1992: I'm required to teach you about the theory of evolution, but we all know what really happened.
    Yep, we all know what really happened. That teacher got their degree/certificate from mail order catalog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    dude got the anti body treatment (which acts the exact same way the vaccine does...) or at least says he did, I'm not convinced he didn't get the vaccine before hand. Dennis is a ghoul but not some idiot like all of those Rush Limbaugh knock offs that actually didn't take the vaccine and ended up croaking. but I wouldn't put it past him to really be that deranged and sociopathic to intend to get himself and as many other people sick as he could.
    He's part of that PragerU clusterfuck if I recall. I mean I can see advertising and shit, but on youtube, a PragerU ad comes up. You think "It'll be 30 seconds, maybe 2 minutes, 3 tops." You look. 1:12:39. Who. The fuck. Makes an Ad. For Youtube. Lasting over. 1. Fucking. Hour.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Wait wait wait, there's more than one magic dead baby juice?

    Hard to keep up with kids today.

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    After giving his pretend deposition, Trump walks outside and literally the first thing he says is false.

    Trump released a statement on Monday discussing his four-hour long deposition in the civil lawsuit involving alleged violence that broke out between protesters and his security guards in 2015, saying he was "pleased to have had the opportunity to tell my side of this ridiculous story."
    "How do you know that was false?"

    Because Trump fought for years to stay off the stand. If he was really happy to do it, he'd have done it ages ago. Also, it's a safe bet that anything Trump says, writes, or tweets is false -- the odds lean heavily that way.

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    So, @Breccia, you will like this, Trump is now suing the 1/6 committee, while trying to claim executive privilege that he no longer has to keep from being deposed and the people around him from going to jail for contempt of congress.

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court...-block-records

    Guaranteed he loses as there is already precedent that a former president does not have privilege.

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