Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Breccia]

Bannon begs the House to delay his criminal charges, weeping like a newborn.

I think I have the transcript here:

lol no

"Har har. What did they really say?"

As you are aware, Mr. Bannon’s tenure as a White House employee ended in 2017. To the extent any privileges could apply to Mr. Bannon’s conversations with the former president or White House staff after the conclusion of his tenure, President Biden has already determined that an assertion of executive privilege is not in the public interest and therefor not justified.

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Our view, and I think the view of the vast majority of Americans, is that former President Trump abused the office of the presidency and attempted to subvert the peaceful transfer of power, something that had happened between Democratic and Republican presidencies for decades and decades throughout history. The former president’s actions represented a unique and existential threat to our democracy that we don’t feel can be swept under the rug.

The constitutional protections of executive privilege should not be used to shield information that reflects a clear and apparent effort to subvert the Constitution itself

-- Biden's WH

[AntiFascistVoter]

Bannon begs the House to delay his criminal charges, weeping like a newborn.

Also bad news for Bannon and high level nazis!

Good news for the Jan. 6 Committee:

The Trump executive privilege lawsuit has been assigned to Judge Tanya Chutkan, who has expressed horror about the Jan. 6 attack and extended sentences beyond what prosecutors have asked for in a couple cases.

https://www.law.com/nationallawjourn...20210919143259

[Breccia]

Judge Tanya Chutkan

It should be pretty easy for her to be impartial on this case. Basically every single legal expert has said "Trump can't expect this to work".

[Poopymonster]

Also bad news for Bannon and high level nazis!

Good news for the Jan. 6 Committee:

The Trump executive privilege lawsuit has been assigned to Judge Tanya Chutkan, who has expressed horror about the Jan. 6 attack and extended sentences beyond what prosecutors have asked for in a couple cases.

https://www.law.com/nationallawjourn...20210919143259

How long before they say she's prejudiced because A: she's black, B: she's "not a real American", or C: she's a woman?
Praise be, y'all.

[PhaelixWW]

How long before they say she's prejudiced because A: she's black, B: she's "not a real American", or C: she's a woman?

D.

/10char

[Edge-]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/19/u...mp-border.html

President Trump’s defense secretary thought the idea was outrageous.

In the spring of 2020, Mark T. Esper, the defense secretary, was alarmed to learn of an idea under discussion at a top military command and at the Department of Homeland Security to send as many as 250,000 troops — more than half the active U.S. Army, and a sixth of all American forces — to the southern border in what would have been the largest use of the military inside the United States since the Civil War.

With the coronavirus pandemic raging, Stephen Miller, the architect of Mr. Trump’s immigration agenda, had urged the Homeland Security Department to develop a plan for the number of troops that would be needed to seal the entire 2,000-mile border with Mexico. It is not clear whether it was officials in homeland security or the Pentagon who concluded that a quarter of a million troops would be required.

The concept was relayed to officials at the Defense Department’s Northern Command, which is responsible for all military operations in the United States and on its borders, according to several former senior administration officials. Officials said the idea was never presented formally to Mr. Trump for approval, but it was discussed in meetings at the White House as they debated other options for closing the border to illegal immigration.

Mr. Esper declined to comment. But people familiar with his conversations, who declined to speak about them on the record, said he was enraged by Mr. Miller’s plan. In addition, homeland security officials had bypassed his office by taking the idea directly to military officials at Northern Command. Mr. Esper also believed that deploying so many troops to the border would undermine American military readiness around the world, officials said.

After a brief but contentious confrontation with Mr. Miller in the Oval Office, Mr. Esper ended consideration of the idea at the Pentagon.

Mr. Trump’s obsession with the southern border was already well known by that time. He had demanded a wall with flesh-piercing spikes, repeatedly mused about a moat filled with alligators, and asked about shooting migrants in the leg as they crossed the border. His aides considered a heat-ray that would make migrants’ skin feel hot.

Around the same time that officials considered the huge deployment to the American side of the border with Mexico, Mr. Trump also pressed his top aides to send forces into Mexico itself to hunt drug cartels, much like American commandos have tracked and killed terrorists in Afghanistan or Pakistan, the officials said.

Mr. Trump hesitated only after aides suggested that to most of the world, military raids inside Mexico could look like the United States was committing an act of war against one of its closest allies, which is also its biggest trading partner, the officials said.

In which Trump wanted to start a war with Mexico by sending US troops in to engage in raids against the cartels, and wanted to deploy more than half of all US forces on the southern border.

Just a reminder of the absolute insanity that our institutions helped protect against.

[Yuujin]

How long before they say she's prejudiced because A: she's black, B: she's "not a real American", or C: she's a woman?
Praise be, y'all.

Can't wait to see how Right Wing media and politicians deliberately go out of their way to mispronounce her name. Seems to be a staple if you are a woman of color.

[Edge-]

https://apnews.com/article/campaigns...7144830dc5bb6d

A federal grand jury on Tuesday indicted U.S. Rep. Jeff Fortenberry of Nebraska, accusing him of lying to the FBI and concealing information from federal agents who were investigating campaign contributions funneled to him from a Nigerian billionaire.

The U.S. attorney’s office announced that the federal grand jury in Los Angeles had indicted the nine-term Republican on one charge of scheming to falsify and conceal material facts and two counts of making false statements to federal investigators.

The indictment stems from an FBI investigation into $180,000 in illegal campaign contributions from Gilbert Chagoury. The contributions were funneled through a group of Californians from 2012 through 2016 and went to four U.S. politicians, including $30,200 to Fortenberry in 2016 and $10,000 to then-Rep. Lee Terry, who represented the Omaha area in 2014.

TIL Nigerian princes exist, and they're actually sending the money they had in escrow to Republican candidates. What a world.

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https://www.newsweek.com/madison-caw...nsters-1640144

In which a Republican member of congress decries how boys are "demasculated" and encourages parents to "raise [their] young man...to be a monster."

Thinking that it has something to do with parenting, apparently, and not kids being obese and having their hormones fucked with thanks to all the various chemicals and toxins increasingly in the environment, and in our bodies.

Conservatives seem to really hate femboys. Their loss.

[Elegiac]

https://www.newsweek.com/madison-caw...nsters-1640144

In which a Republican member of congress decries how boys are "demasculated" and encourages parents to "raise [their] young man...to be a monster."

Thinking that it has something to do with parenting, apparently, and not kids being obese and having their hormones fucked with thanks to all the various chemicals and toxins increasingly in the environment, and in our bodies.

Conservatives seem to really hate femboys. Their loss.

Something something Ur-Fascism.

12. Since both permanent war and heroism are difficult games to play, the Ur-Fascist transfers his will to power to sexual matters. This is the origin of machismo (which implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality). Since even sex is a difficult game to play, the UrFascist hero tends to play with weapons – doing so becomes an ersatz phallic exercise.

These men just need a mommy. In fact, I daresay what America really needs at this point is just that; a mommy.

[Edge-]

Something something Ur-Fascism.



These men just need a mommy. In fact, I daresay what America really needs at this point is just that; a mommy.

I'm unironically waiting for "anti-femboy" to become a tentpole policy position for the Republican party. It implicitly is already, but I'm just waiting for them to make it explicit.

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https://twitter.com/therecount/statu...70745058971657

Fox News, highlighting how there is a war on everything. Is there any war they don't love?

[Kaleredar]

I'm unironically waiting for "anti-femboy" to become a tentpole policy position for the Republican party. It implicitly is already, but I'm just waiting for them to make it explicit.

Which is weird, considering conservative fertishization of Rome and Sparta. Those places loved their “femboys.”

[Edge-]

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-protesters/

No wonder Donald "Bunker Bitch" Trump moved to Florida, everyone in his native New York City hates his fuckin guts, and he got heckled after he left his deposition today. Guess he had to flee to his safe space.

[Poopymonster]

I'm unironically waiting for "anti-femboy" to become a tentpole policy position for the Republican party. It implicitly is already, but I'm just waiting for them to make it explicit.

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https://twitter.com/therecount/statu...70745058971657

Fox News, highlighting how there is a war on everything. Is there any war they don't love?

Well...

[Hollycakes]

lol I haven't seen that movie since I was young.
<3 Cleese.

And they already do I think Edge.
One of my aunts main talking points when she was in maga mode was trans youth being forced into becoming fem.
Had nothing to say of all the ftm's, only mtf's.
Like almost as if she wasn't aware it went both ways, showing how little she truly understood it at all.
Was constantly harping on about it being forced on boys and the the fem decline of manly men.
Was so hung up on them being young and not having a choice, would never talk about anyone older etc.
They don't have a clear understanding of all this hate they have so it gets doubled up and funneled into "like" ideologies they can hate on all in one place.
No doubt she tied it into vegetarianism and her love of meats and hunting(which was tied into govt takeovers and living off the grid) and soy being evil etc
It's a fucking maze trying to connect Q dots.

[postman1782]

They are back from their behind closed door meeting. They are voting now on the contempt of congress charge for Steve Bannon.

https://www.msnbc.com/live?icid=tve-mini-tease

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Looks like they will vote to hold him in contempt and recommend charges to DoJ. But it is going on now, and from what Chairman Bennie Thompson is saying they will hold him in contempt.

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@Breccia, unsurprising it was a unanimous vote to hold Bannon in contempt of congress, wonder if he wants to spend as much as that McDougal person did for the Clinton case.

[Edge-]

@Breccia, unsurprising it was a unanimous vote to hold Bannon in contempt of congress, wonder if he wants to spend as much as that McDougal person did for the Clinton case.

I'm not terribly optimistic, but I wouldn't be sad if he spent a few nights in jail thinking about his choices.

Do they serve booze in jail? Because if not then it might shorten his stay if not.

[PhaelixWW]

I'm not terribly optimistic, but I wouldn't be sad if he spent a few nights in jail thinking about his choices.

It would only be a pittance against what he would have gotten had he not been pardoned by TFG.

[postman1782]

I'm not terribly optimistic, but I wouldn't be sad if he spent a few nights in jail thinking about his choices.

Do they serve booze in jail? Because if not then it might shorten his stay if not.

Hopefully Garland acts on the recommendations and puts him in jail til he complies.

[Poopymonster]

I'm not terribly optimistic, but I wouldn't be sad if he spent a few nights in jail thinking about his choices.

Do they serve booze in jail? Because if not then it might shorten his stay if not.

I hope he farts loudly in the prison shower and someone says "That sounds about my size".
He's another one that I'd love to see lick the spoon.

[Elegiac]

I'm unironically waiting for "anti-femboy" to become a tentpole policy position for the Republican party. It implicitly is already, but I'm just waiting for them to make it explicit.

But didn't you hear? Hating femboys is for communists.

Looking forward to the next cold war where we put nekomimi twinks on the currency just to prove we aren't godless femboy-hating communists.