1. #74221
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I saw a headline that some stock involved jumped 100+% on the news. It's quite possible that...zero. Zero time. They could pump and dump and walk out with millions.
    it jumped over 400% at one point with zero actual products, customers, revenue.....

    typical meme stock activities.

    The worst part is the 300 million in funding they claim to have can be pulled at anytime.

    you can bet some of the biggest owners are probably looking to quickly downsize their holdings and take a huge profit. there will be plenty of uneducated retail investors to take their place.
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

  2. #74222
    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-truth...cement-1641137

    Oh, and there is this. Within hours of it being announced, it was hacked. It hasn't even been released, and they are hacking it, must be Rudy Guiliani being their "cyber security expert". Though that dumbass couldn't even unlock his phone.
    Less "hacked" and more, "Folks found the publicly accessible URL and had a field day." as far as I could tell. It's about as much "hacking" as clicking "inspect element" on a government web page and seeing that names and SSN's of people are publicly visible.

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    The bargain bin version of a 'social media network' isn't going to succeed for the same reason Parler and others failed. Trumpsters don't do well in an echo chamber. Almost like JW, they believe they have the answers and just need to educate the masses on (ironically) what they've been told to believe is the 'Truth'. This is why you see Trumpsters with over-the-top huge flags and banners, some even personally buying billboards, pushing Trump messages. That evangelism of Trump that they crave doesn't happen in a very Orwellian sanitized one-way discussion. In their one-sided platforms, it just quickly descends into a cesspool of far-out conspiracy theories, and as they are debunked and/or fail to come true time and time again, most people become bored and disillusioned and quietly move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    typical meme stock activities.
    Well the stock market is a predictive force, after all. Yeah, I just feel that someone on Team Trump is already counting the millions they'll make when this goes belly-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    Sometimes it can get really absurd.

    San Francisco GOP is hosting Marjorie Taylor Greene, whose vaccination status complicates plans



    WTH! I don't think SF GOP is even trying to win votes in San Francisco.
    I wonder if San Mateo has any landscaping company parking lots that will host her.
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    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    You know...some days, the jokes write themselves. Such as "it's like their cyber security was done by a ten-year-old".
    Well, when you use open source software, without giving them the proper credit and whatnot, it is easily hacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I wonder if San Mateo has any landscaping company parking lots that will host her.
    If there's one thing downtown San Mateo has in short supply, it's parking lots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Well, when you use open source software, without giving them the proper credit and whatnot, it is easily hacked.
    I feel this is worth further discussion.

    Coming up with a social media platform is going to be very difficult. You need good software and good hardware to carry that much data in various forms that often. So I can understand why someone would want to take shortcuts. I get it.

    But this isn't plastering over a hole in your apartment sheetrock with toothpaste and hoping the super doesn't notice. THis is "people put their personal info on this thing" levels of important. Nobody who knows what they're doing should expect a basic framework they found on a free site, with a coat of paint, to be useful. Just ask Jim Fucking Sterling Son.

    Team Trump has to know this. The question is, what's their angle?

    I suggested earlier they could pump and dump their stock, and I'm not ruling that out yet. But if they try to actually make something, yeah, if they just copy/paste something public, they shouldn't expect that to work very well very long -- with or without claiming they own it. Then there's the hardware, which Trump has been burning his bridges on that one and can't afford his own. And even if they do actually strive to make a worthwhile project, they have a time limit -- next year. They physically can't get good enough, even if they're trying. Which nobody seems to believe.

    I admit this could be a simple fleecing job, but unlike a PAC you can't just have people hand you money for a product and then...do nothing. That's called income. So I'm discounting that for now, too.

    My best remaining guess is, Trump wants this up and running as an excuse for people to pay for advertisements. The contract for the advertisement will say nothing about number of views, simply a flat fee for being online. That would end up short-term, but again, Trump is broke now and owes a lot. That might be enough.

    I suppose he could be trying to milk some personal data, but I dunno, his fundraising site probably has all that.

    I don't see a realistic long-term con that has any chance of working. What am I missing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I feel this is worth further discussion.

    Coming up with a social media platform is going to be very difficult. You need good software and good hardware to carry that much data in various forms that often. So I can understand why someone would want to take shortcuts. I get it.

    But this isn't plastering over a hole in your apartment sheetrock with toothpaste and hoping the super doesn't notice. THis is "people put their personal info on this thing" levels of important. Nobody who knows what they're doing should expect a basic framework they found on a free site, with a coat of paint, to be useful. Just ask Jim Fucking Sterling Son.

    Team Trump has to know this. The question is, what's their angle?

    I suggested earlier they could pump and dump their stock, and I'm not ruling that out yet. But if they try to actually make something, yeah, if they just copy/paste something public, they shouldn't expect that to work very well very long -- with or without claiming they own it. Then there's the hardware, which Trump has been burning his bridges on that one and can't afford his own. And even if they do actually strive to make a worthwhile project, they have a time limit -- next year. They physically can't get good enough, even if they're trying. Which nobody seems to believe.

    I admit this could be a simple fleecing job, but unlike a PAC you can't just have people hand you money for a product and then...do nothing. That's called income. So I'm discounting that for now, too.

    My best remaining guess is, Trump wants this up and running as an excuse for people to pay for advertisements. The contract for the advertisement will say nothing about number of views, simply a flat fee for being online. That would end up short-term, but again, Trump is broke now and owes a lot. That might be enough.

    I suppose he could be trying to milk some personal data, but I dunno, his fundraising site probably has all that.

    I don't see a realistic long-term con that has any chance of working. What am I missing?
    Given his followers *cough* sensibilities and their Sincerely Held Beliefs...I'll laugh my ass off when Blacked ads popped up on the site.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    House Republicans unanimously decide that refusing to answer Congress's questions is not contempt.
    UPDATE: Some dumbass posted what he heard incorrectly on TV without finding a linkable source.

    Here are the names of the nine Republicans who voted to hold Bannon in contempt.

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    Oh man, we all called this.
    There's a guy in a thread here claiming psychics are real.
    Maybe he's right!
    Fucking GQP news writes itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Hopefully Garland acts on the recommendations and puts him in jail til he complies.
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Bannon didn't turn his documents over...yet, but he's very likely going to jail for that and the subpoena will just get them anyhow.
    Criminal contempt is different than contempt of court. It's going to require a trial and everything.
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    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    Criminal contempt is different than contempt of court. It's going to require a trial and everything.
    Yes. And it seems pretty textbook.

    "Was there a legal subpoena?"
    "Yes."
    "Did he comply?"
    "No."

  14. #74234
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Yes. And it seems pretty textbook.

    "Was there a legal subpoena?"
    "Yes."
    "Did he comply?"
    "No."
    The point being that it might take longer than a year to resolve the case, by which time the GOP may have the majority in the house and void the subpoena nulling the entire case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    It’s also likely to include, “Have there been previous cases of the same type? What was the outcome?”
    Generally, they drag on for years and are settled out of court after delaying long enough for the subpoena to be largely worthless.

    Edit: You don't even have to go that far back for an example: eric holder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    It’s also likely to include, “Have there been previous cases of the same type? What was the outcome?”
    Bannon's defense is likely "Trump sued" which, again, he tried before Trump even sued so we know he's full of shit.

    I've already posted on this, but if Trump wants to after-the-fact declare privilege, he should have to take the stand to explain why Bannon, not a White House employee and hadn't been for years, was able to discuss issues of National Security Lol. If he's going to try to overthrow democracy and install himself as a dictator, I want there to be consequences for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    Criminal contempt is different than contempt of court. It's going to require a trial and everything.
    I think any situation that puts Bannon under oath is a compromising situation as far as he's concerned.

    Like I said before, his fealty to Trump and the support of the Trumpkins is predicated entirely upon how much he spreads the message of Trump. Unfortunately for him, that message revolves around a very specific adherence to a whole litany of lies that can be freely expressed in public, but not so much in a court of law.

    If he tries to spout those lies in a court of law, he could find himself in jail, and pleading the fifth so that he doesn't directly refute any lies would likely not work any better. Meanwhile, if he does tell the truth, or rather, refuses to carry forward Trump's lies, he risks losing Trump and his sycophant's support.
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    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    If he tries to spout those lies in a court of law, he could find himself in jail, and pleading the fifth so that he doesn't directly refute any lies would likely not work any better. Meanwhile, if he does tell the truth, or rather, refuses to carry forward Trump's lies, he risks losing Trump and his sycophant's support.
    I expect it to be tied up in procedure, with bannon's lawyer filing a new motion as soon as the last one was resolved, necessitating another hearing, that will be scheduled months later. They only have to delay a year to see if the GOP takes the house. I'll be happily surprised if bannon takes the stand to plead the 5th before the next election, but I wouldn't bet on it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    I expect it to be tied up in procedure, with bannon's lawyer filing a new motion as soon as the last one was resolved, necessitating another hearing, that will be scheduled months later. They only have to delay a year to see if the GOP takes the house. I'll be happily surprised if bannon takes the stand to plead the 5th before the next election, but I wouldn't bet on it.
    Given the nature of it, couldn’t they expedite the hearings so if they try that, the next hearing would be within the next week or less? Would put a huge damper on those attempts.
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  19. #74239
    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    Given the nature of it, couldn’t they expedite the hearings so if they try that, the next hearing would be within the next week or less? Would put a huge damper on those attempts.
    Going back to vegas' point of looking for "previous cases", no. These typically drag on for years. IANAL, but going by history, it doesn't look great.

    Edit: I feel like I should point out, unless the guy bannon has working for him is doing it pro-bono (not likely) it's going to cost a crap ton of money to defend. Not a great showing from our legal system, but it's unlikely he's going to get away scot-free even if he does beat the wrap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Thursday's report:

    80,835 new cases; roughly 17k fewer than last week.

    Top 10:

    California: 5,958 new cases; 176 deaths
    Texas: 5,537 new cases; 223 deaths
    Pennsylvania: 4,998 new cases; 101 deaths
    New York: 4,501 new cases; 41 deaths
    Ohio: 4,084 new cases; deaths not reported
    Colorado: 3,397 new cases; 28 deaths
    Washington: 3,051 new cases; 45 deaths
    North Carolina: 3,003 new cases; 56 deaths
    Wisconsin: 2,635 new cases; 1 death
    Arizona: 2,495 new cases; 49 deaths

    When I talk about being worried over "long tails", California's numbers illustrate what I mean. They've been bouncing between 4-6k for weeks now; their total today is about the same as it was last Thursday. Overall they've been one of the more positive examples during this last wave given their population, but their numbers after their Summer wave last year were about half what they have now and we're a month into Fall so even under the best possible conditions we can probably expect numbers to go up at least a little everywhere within a couple months. A lower baseline would be more ideal. Elsewhere things are still heading in the right direction overall. Alaska still has upwards of 109 cases per 100k population but that's actually down from last week. South Dakota still has the worst positivity rate at around 17% but that's also down...not that it means much considering their shitty testing. They also have around 36 cases per 100k which is pretty bad (36th worst in the nation).

    1,428 deaths is a whopping 600 fewer than last Thursday and brings the total to 753,747. Quite the drop, though I imagine part of that is the confluence of several states not reporting deaths on the day. We'll see how that holds up after Florida releases their numbers tomorrow. Texas is still over 200 daily. Whatever's going on with Oklahoma (I never did find any answers for their huge numbers the past few days), they seem to have taken the day off.

    Related news:

    What is the 'delta plus' variant of the coronavirus?--The bottom line is that right now it's not even a variant of interest, let alone concern (which is why it doesn't have a Greek assignation yet), but it's a variant that has a couple mutations that allows it to more easily infect, so scientists are keeping an eye on it just in case. I've seen it mentioned a few times on the boards, but don't freak out about it.

    Florida’s governor wants a special session of the Legislature to pass new COVID laws--DeathSantis is not done killing Floridians.

    'I've lost my joy': Anti-vax Republican, who worked for the Trump campaign and embraced QAnon, says she has COVID-19--She's a fucking moronic shithead and I hope she loses a lot more than just "her joy". Fuck her and the rest of the QAnon/Trump cultists.

    Stay safe, folks.

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