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    Really feed kinda bad right now. As an extension of my last post, ended up talking to my niece. While went into other stuff I won't be mentioning here. I ended up telling her to please not go into healthcare when she gets older as she could get someone killed.

    She said she didn't see how a vaccine could help against any virus. I asked her about Polio or Smallpox, at which point she responded with "What are those?" Had to tell her that they were viruses that vaccines had gotten rid of and that they also got the Measles out of the United States till some anti-vaxxers brought them back. She honestly doesn't believe any of that. And told me what the "News" in Florida was saying where I pointed out they were caught lying about their stuff for over a year now. She largely didn't care or believe me.

    This level of ignorance and stupidity being passed to the next generation by these people is sad and dangerous.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    I asked her about Polio or Smallpox, at which point she responded with "What are those?"
    ...I changed my mind can someone please initiate Human Instrumentality already jfc.
    You're not "playing devil's advocate", you're making someone who is likely speaking from personal experience defend themselves against the shitty and oppressive opinion you're too embarrassed to admit you actually believe in. It's you. You're the devil.

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    Just huck us into the water. I won’t blame you.
    Blessed are the fornicates, may we bend down to be their whores. Blessed are the rich, may our labor deliver them more.
    Blessed are the envious; bless the slothful, the wrathful, the vain. Blessed are the gluttonous, may they feast us to famine and war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    Just huck us into the water. I won’t blame you.
    This would play out better than Space Jam 2...



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    Just on a related note, in regards specifically to all the conspiracy theories Trump has pushed, and then how Trump has given national rise to the QAnon Conspiracy group, leading to a small majority of people rooted in reality labeling the new Party of Trump the GQP:

    Parkland shooting survivor says their dad believes it was a hoax after QAnon 'consumed his life'.

    These people are in need of deep mental health specialists, and even then it might not be possible to save them. At some point, if our society manages to avoid The Party dominating Oceania, and rises above the bullshit and we flourish, I would bet this kind of behavior by the QAnon'ers will be labeled a mental health disorder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    Really feed kinda bad right now. As an extension of my last post, ended up talking to my niece. While went into other stuff I won't be mentioning here. I ended up telling her to please not go into healthcare when she gets older as she could get someone killed.

    She said she didn't see how a vaccine could help against any virus. I asked her about Polio or Smallpox, at which point she responded with "What are those?" Had to tell her that they were viruses that vaccines had gotten rid of and that they also got the Measles out of the United States till some anti-vaxxers brought them back. She honestly doesn't believe any of that. And told me what the "News" in Florida was saying where I pointed out they were caught lying about their stuff for over a year now. She largely didn't care or believe me.

    This level of ignorance and stupidity being passed to the next generation by these people is sad and dangerous.....
    It's easy on a daily basis to just shake our heads and laugh at them, but at some point, we really need to weep for them individually and "pray" our society can rise above these people (not bagging on your niece, just to be clear, but on those people who fall into that general category you were describing).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    the Party of Trump doubling down on the dumbing down.
    This needs to get more traction than just one post in rando gaming thread. It should really be the GQP's siren song.
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    So how does everyone love the fact that trump supporters are now angry at Biden for being snippy with reporters.....

    oh how we have come full circle on loon town.
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    It's easy on a daily basis to just shake our heads and laugh at them, but at some point, we really need to weep for them individually and "pray" our society can rise above these people (not bagging on your niece, just to be clear, but on those people who fall into that general category you were describing).
    Nah, it's alright. I felt bad for saying but I ended up telling her that myself. She is about 13 years old. In Florida she is home schooled and even then she calls me and asks for help on math and science because I actually know what I am talking about and even he knows it and because, according to her, they don't really talk much anymore and she actually wants away but at the same time he just had a new kid last month (With the side chick he dumped my sister for and he is like 44 years old too) and she doesn't want to leave him to grow up in that alone.

    Said that when she is older, she really doesn't want much to do with him outside of the new baby with how he acts. But guessing its a combination of him and the culture of Florida but she honestly knows little to nothing about this stuff and even tried to tell me she saw on the news down there how half the people in the hospitals down there sick are vaccinated and how it doesn't really seem to work from what the news says down there.

    I fear for her future because she will have so much crap that she was taught incorrectly that she will have to fix if she wants to have many jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Just on a related note, in regards specifically to all the conspiracy theories Trump has pushed, and then how Trump has given national rise to the QAnon Conspiracy group, leading to a small majority of people rooted in reality labeling the new Party of Trump the GQP:

    Parkland shooting survivor says their dad believes it was a hoax after QAnon 'consumed his life'.

    These people are in need of deep mental health specialists, and even then it might not be possible to save them. At some point, if our society manages to avoid The Party dominating Oceania, and rises above the bullshit and we flourish, I would bet this kind of behavior by the QAnon'ers will be labeled a mental health disorder.
    Jesus christ just how fucked in the head are these people? Really trying to give people like ISIS members a run for their money on how insane they are. Lock them in an asylum.
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    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

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    I find it interesting how the public perception of Trump and the right wing is now so skewed and synonymous with bad things that the very idea of being right or some of Trump's ideas now will get you shunned in some way.

    "Trump" is now synonymous with mental illness and violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    "Trump" is now synonymous with mental illness and violence.
    That tends to happen when you initiate a violent insurrection and support conspiracy theories like Qanon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    I find it interesting how the public perception of Trump and the right wing is now so skewed and synonymous with bad things that the very idea of being right or some of Trump's ideas now will get you shunned in some way.

    "Trump" is now synonymous with mental illness and violence.
    There are a few dozen reasons for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    I find it interesting how the public perception of Trump and the right wing is now so skewed and synonymous with bad things that the very idea of being right or some of Trump's ideas now will get you shunned in some way.

    "Trump" is now synonymous with mental illness and violence.
    American Social Conservatives have been on the wrong side of every issue for.... centuries.

    It could be that I'm a lazy asshole but I honestly can't think of a single positive thing they've done in a long, long time. Trump is a symptom of the problem. The rot was always there.

    Fiscal conservatives aren't much better but I'm at least willing to give them credit for Interstate Highways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    I find it interesting
    Doubtful. It more likely upsets you that this is the case.

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    I'm the Neverending fight against voter fraud, aka, the fight against legal voting that's against Republicans. Another "feature" of Texas Republicans bill, because it is most likely purposefully done.

    https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-po...ting-obstacle/

  15. #74935
    Making today's Monday report a quickie. Mondays are underreported anyway and I'm short on time today.

    35,816 new cases; 132 deaths, bringing the total to 627,039. The case count isn't much higher than last Monday, but last Monday included 8k from Florida and this week there's no total listed, so expect the actual total to be a lot higher, especially since Florida tops the nation in new COVID cases.

    Gosh, if only we hadn't had a year of the TRUMP SHITSHOW dismissing the virus as a Democrat hoax and sowing ignorance among a large portion of the population.

    Fortunately we're now dealing with an administration that doesn't typically ignore pesky things like facts. Biden launches effort to protect people disabled by COVID-19. "Long COVID" is a thing and we still don't know the extend of the damage, so hopefully this provides some relief to those affected.

    Stay safe, folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    American Social Conservatives have been on the wrong side of every issue for.... centuries.

    It could be that I'm a lazy asshole but I honestly can't think of a single positive thing they've done in a long, long time. Trump is a symptom of the problem. The rot was always there.

    Fiscal conservatives aren't much better but I'm at least willing to give them credit for Interstate Highways.
    While I realize Eisenhower instated them, wouldn’t the normally “fiscally conservative” solution to interstate highways be privately-owned toll roads designed to nickle and dime users to death, more than any additional gas tax used to cover public road infrastructure would ever cost?

    If you want a microcosm of that, just look at Florida’s “highways.” Almost every highway road is a toll road that drains you 1.50 every 5 miles you drive. Even within a city you gotta pay tolls unless you want to take surface streets everywhere.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    As the Jan 6th hearings begin, the GOP already has their battle plan: blame Pelosi.

    Why don't they want to answer the fundamental question, which is why wasn't there a better security posture on that day?
    -- GOP Rep. Jordan

    Specifically, they're trying to shift the outrage from "Trump supporters stormed the Capitol and people died" to "Pelosi didn't defend the Capitol when Trump supporters stormed it and people died". This is also known as "victim blaming", found in lines like "If you didn't want to be raped, why did you wear that outfit?" and "well of course your car got stolen, you left the window down".

    I will also point out two other pieces of information the GOP is intentionally leaving out, because their strategy doesn't work if you use actual facts and logic.

    1) McConnell was effectively in equal standing with Pelosi, near as I can tell, when it comes to defending the building. Blame both, or blame neither, or admit you're a hypocrite. Incidentally, neither actually runs the Capitol Police Board, and neither have any dealings with the day-to-day security of the building. At best, you could make the argument that neither the House nor the Senate asked for additional help before the murderous insurrection started, but of course, that would be admitting that there was a reason to ask for additional help. "Pelosi should have known the rally would turn into a violent mob!" is possibly one of the dumbest things the GOP could say at this point. And yet...

    2) We have a full timeline of the National Guard deployment. Let's also bring in Pence. Pence apparently was willing to call the National Guard, but Trump was not. Trump was at home, watching the riot he started on TV and cheering.

    Both of these are important, but lesser importance than Trump starting the murderous insurrection personally and directly. Even if you're angry that the police didn't protect the victim of murder, the person who killed them was the murderer.

    I see @YUPPIE is back with us, maybe he can share his opinion. Hey @YUPPIE what do you think about the GOP attempts to blame Pelosi for the results of Jan 6th Capitol assault? Do you find that "interesting"? Surely a genuine poster would be willing to share his opinion on the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Thank goodness the GOP always has so many women to choose from when they need a convenient scapegoat! It's weird how they seem to primarily target women in politics, just a bit odd, no? Maybe? Or it makes perfect sense. Probably that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    While I realize Eisenhower instated them, wouldn’t the normally “fiscally conservative” solution to interstate highways be privately-owned toll roads designed to nickle and dime users to death, more than any additional gas tax used to cover public road infrastructure would ever cost?
    They thought of using toll roads but it was deemed impractical and used a gas tax instead. A targeted tax effectively behaves as a toll but without the additional infrastructure and bureaucracy of toll collection. It seems like its "big" government but only sort of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    She said she didn't see how a vaccine could help against any virus. I asked her about Polio or Smallpox, at which point she responded with "What are those?"
    Tell her you pay a hundred bucks for a zoom presentation about the history of polio and smallpox. Surely she can get a book or two about it at a library.

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