Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Breccia]

.the Commission on Presidential Debates.

It would be ridiculously easy for this to backfire. So please, let them do it.

Simply put, most networks have a strong, solid, tested arrangement with the Presidential debates. It would be trivial for them to agree "We're going to host the debates anyhow, even if only one person shows up". Yeah, maybe FOX News will host the Republicans jerking off into the camera, but FOX News viewers were going to vote for Trump anyhow. Meanwhile any Democrats will get 2 hours of policy announcements and critical hits against the Party of Trump nominees in front of the independent voters.

And no, I am handwaving "but they'll turn on each other". If four people agree to split the bill and Brandon doesn't pay up, the remaining three people talk shit about Brandon for the rest of the meeting.

[Endus]

Why are they so bad at this?

Because "this" is "telling the honest truth", which isn't a game they're even playing. You're evaluating them according to a completely different ruleset than the one they're playing by.

And frankly, by their ruleset, moves like this are winning.

Complaining that your opponent keeps shooting you with paintballs and that's not a legitimate chess move means, sure, that they're not winning the chess match. They don't care about the chess match. They want to shoot you with paintballs.

[gondrin]

Biggest cuck in government today is now known as Lindsey "Grandmaster Cuck" Graham. Since McConnell refuses to go along with Trump and his nonsense, Graham basically threatens his job as Senate Leader or even being a Republican.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...?ocid=msedgntp

"If you want to be a Republican leader in the House or the Senate, you have to have a working relationship with Donald Trump," Graham said. "I like Sen. McConnell," but Trump is "the leader of the Republican Party," and "I'm not gonna vote for anybody for leader of the Senate as a Republican unless they can prove to me that they can advocate an American first agenda and have a working relationship with President Trump. Because if you don't do that, you will fail."

[Edge-]

Biggest cuck in government today is now known as Lindsey "Grandmaster Cuck" Graham. Since McConnell refuses to go along with Trump and his nonsense, Graham basically threatens his job as Senate Leader or even being a Republican.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...?ocid=msedgntp

Oh, is their on-again/off-again relationship back on-again? Graham needs something from Trump, thinks Trump is still the future of the party now that things have "settled down", or Trump is pressuring Graham.

Spineless to the very end.

[Nurasu]

Oh, is their on-again/off-again relationship back on-again? Graham needs something from Trump, thinks Trump is still the future of the party now that things have "settled down", or Trump is pressuring Graham.

Spineless to the very end.

I'm 102% sure that Trump bought all of the 'Lady G' evidence that was almost floating around.

[Breccia]

Biggest cuck in government today is now known as Lindsey "Grandmaster Cuck" Graham. Since McConnell refuses to go along with Trump and his nonsense, Graham basically threatens his job as Senate Leader or even being a Republican.

When Republicans said they wanted a civil war, this is what they meant.

I'm 102% sure that Trump bought all of the 'Lady G' evidence that was almost floating around.

I don't know if there's fire per se, but there sure seems to be smoke. Even his wife isn't 100% convinced, of course I asked when it came up in the shower.

[Taifuu]

Biggest cuck in government today is now known as Lindsey "Grandmaster Cuck" Graham. Since McConnell refuses to go along with Trump and his nonsense, Graham basically threatens his job as Senate Leader or even being a Republican.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...?ocid=msedgntp

I hope this happens. McConnell has been an extremely effective leader of the Senate; he just uses his powers for all the evil. Replacing McConnell would definitely backfire on them.

[Breccia]

I hope this happens. McConnell has been an extremely effective leader of the Senate; he just uses his powers for all the evil. Replacing McConnell would definitely backfire on them.

I want to see the public, open vote on this, too. It has every opportunity to be extremely awkward once that is out in public.

[cubby]

I want to see the public, open vote on this, too. It has every opportunity to be extremely awkward once that is out in public.

@Taifuu as well - the vote won't happen. This is just their usual bullshit posturing. Graham needs Trump's support, and lusts after it (now that Graham's wife is permanently occupied in the shower). So Graham postures and cucks around, but he's as spineless as all the rest of Hitler's Trump's remaining generals. When that vote comes up for majority leader in 2023, McConnell will win by a [rea] landslide.

McConnell is perhaps one of the biggest victor's in Trump's cataclysmic wake. Even if Trump wins in 2024 and resumes his reign once again on the united states, McConnell will be not only just fine, but perhaps even stronger. Because while Trump might hold the purse strings on the GQP, McConnell holds the power to put forth Judicial Nominees. And that is the real GQP goal.

[Edge-]

https://www.propublica.org/article/s...lping-the-poor

Reminder: Trump's much lauded "opportunity zones", that we were told were absolutely going to drive investment into disadvantaged neighbors and was frequently touted as a cornerstone of Trump's efforts to help minority communities struggling with poverty...didn't work at all, and quite the contrary seems like it's simply allowed developers to get tax breaks and incentives, including projects that exist in zones that are tax-free for years, for developing in affluent communities that didn't need the additional investment or any of the financial incentives.

Bonus points: Kushner's company is involved in this grift.

[Taifuu]

Reminds me of this Family Guy clip:

[Edge-]

https://www.axios.com/local/nashvill...onal-districts

I love that Republicans just blatantly gerrymander around race and will likely geta way with it once more. Turning Nashville red because when you can draw racist, partisan district lines and you're a political party with no morals and a lust for power, you draw racist, partisan district lines.

Why this is allowed continues to be beyond me. All districting should be done by non/bi-partisan groups. Always.

[D Luniz]

https://www.propublica.org/article/s...lping-the-poor

Reminder: Trump's much lauded "opportunity zones", that we were told were absolutely going to drive investment into disadvantaged neighbors and was frequently touted as a cornerstone of Trump's efforts to help minority communities struggling with poverty...didn't work at all, and quite the contrary seems like it's simply allowed developers to get tax breaks and incentives, including projects that exist in zones that are tax-free for years, for developing in affluent communities that didn't need the additional investment or any of the financial incentives.

Bonus points: Kushner's company is involved in this grift.

[Breccia]

Once again, it was not a good day for friends of Donald Trump.

1) The Oath Keepers. Yeah, we covered that.

2) With DeVos out of the way, Navient gives up on $1.7 billion in predatory loans in exchange for not being charged with fraud, basically. Can you imagine when losing $1.7 billion is not the worst result you could have gotten? Anyhow apparently that's 66,000 loans or so.

3) Glenn Beck, anti-vaxxer since at least 2009, has COVID.

Again.

Big surprise, the alt-right talk show host not only touted the advantages of natural immunity before -- right up until the time it failed him -- but is also taking hydrochloroquine and ivermectin, because the insane members of the rabid fanbase need confirmation that, somehow, this stuff actually helps when medical study after medical study says they don't. Of course, omicron isn't nearly as fatal so he would probably live even if he took nothing but Doritos and Mountain Dew.

4) This tweet:

If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed.......and we will deserve it.

Man, times have changed.

5) Mitt Romney speaks out on the GOP planning to boycott the debates:

Well, that would be nuts. The American people want to see candidates for president debating issues of consequence to them, and it provides a service to the country and to the people, to hear the prospective candidates of the two major parties duke it out.

He's right, it would be nuts, but look who leads his party.

6) The Jan 6th panel wants to hear what tech giants did before the murderous insurrection, and what they plan on doing to stop the next one.

And by "wants to hear" I mean "subpoenas".

7) Dr. Oz publicly challenges Fauci to a debate. Which is what you'd expect a TV celebrity to do to someone whose job description is more "saving the world from deadly virus" and less "throws one-line zingers".

Dr. Oz has had his share of problems. There was that time a bunch of doctors wrote to Columbia, asking Columbia to strike Oz from their staff for giving bad medical advice on his TV show. Oz literally responded by saying his show, the Dr. Oz show, with the word "doctor" in the title and in which he gives medical advice, is "not a medical show". No, really, he said that.

8) Sen. Marshall [R-KN-Sas] proposes the Fauci Act, requiring government officials to post their fiscal statements.

"Oh, so Fauci has been hiding his financial disclosure forms?"

No. He's made them public for 37 years. Marshall is proposing a strawman.

"Is this the same Marshall that Fauci called a moron, for not knowing his financial disclosures were public?"

Yes. Also, guess where he stands on Trump's taxes?

[PhaelixWW]

There was that time a bunch of doctors wrote to Columbia, asking Columbia to strike Oz from their staff for giving bad medical advice on his TV show. Oz literally responded by saying his show, the Dr. Oz show, with the word "doctor" in the title and in which he gives medical advice, is "not a medical show". No, really, he said that.

You have to wonder why so many people don't second guess their beliefs when the people they look to for answers swear so very hard that they don't actually have any legitimate answers to give.

[Gorsameth]

Hey now, its understandable that Melania needs to raise some personal money to prepare for the event when her husband is plucked by the IRS and Deutsche Bank for all hes worth for tax fraud and lying on loan applications.

[Breccia]

"autographing and auctioning a hat for personal profit".

I mean, more power to her to try to build a "walk away from my cheating husband" fund, but she clearly overestimates the value of a Trump ex-wife's name.

[gondrin]

I mean, more power to her to try to build a "walk away from my cheating husband" fund, but she clearly overestimates the value of a Trump ex-wife's name.

Well, to give her credit, I believe she understands how absolutely insane people can get over anything celebrity based that like them, especially Trump supporters and anything Trump based.

[Breccia]

More and more Trump allies are in more and more trouble. Let's talk about Ken Paxton, who now faces a lawsuit.

If the name sounts familiar, good on you, I didn't remember it. But he was one of the faithless AGs who sued the US for voting for Biden. But this part is more damning:

On Wednesday morning, Ken Paxton stood in front of a roaring crowd, reminding a sea of President Donald Trump’s supporters that the president “is a fighter” and his backers must be, too.

“We’re here. We will not quit fighting,” he said, slamming Republican officials in Georgia who have stood by President-elect Joe Biden’s victory there. “We are Texans, we are Americans, and we’re not quitting.”

But by the evening — after members of the crowd he had invited to Washington, D.C., stirred up with false claims about election fraud, resorted to violence, smashing windows and scaling walls to breach the nation’s Capitol in a mob that forced members of Congress to flee and left at least one woman dead — he had claimed they were not his ilk at all.

“These are not Trump supporters,” he falsely claimed on Twitter and Facebook, citing incorrect reports that the pro-Trump mob that invaded the Capitol had been infiltrated by liberal antifa activists, members of a loose anti-facist movement that opposes actions seen as “authoritarian, homophobic, racist or xenophobic.”

The untenable pivot provides an insight into a remarkable day in American history: Paxton, like other Republicans in Texas and across the nation, whipped up thousands of Trump supporters into a deluded frenzy, claiming falsely that the election had been stolen from them. When that frenzy reached its violent conclusion, he blamed someone else.

In an interview early Thursday with Fox News, Paxton disavowed the violent actors and said they should be prosecuted. But he also seemed resigned to the anger that fueled Wednesday’s events.

“There is a lot of frustration in this country from people who do think the election wasn't done appropriately…. It is going to create dissension in our country,” said Paxton, a co-chair of the Lawyers for Trump coalition. “And that’s just where we’re at.”

So to make it clear, he was there, he was defending the murderous insurrection. But what must also be clear is that he was there on official business. As such, half the state's newspapers demanded to see his official and therefore by law public records. He refused. And the judge took a dim view on that. He has four days.

"Surely a very fine Paxton on both sides has done nothing else wrong."

He's facing three criminal investigations. Security fraud for example.

"Okay, but if that's all--"

And the FBI, for bribery. Oh, and he fired the whistleblower. That's another reason he's in court.

"Um..."

Oh, and he cheated on his wife. I did say Trump supporter, didn't I?

[Machismo]

More and more Trump allies are in more and more trouble. Let's talk about Ken Paxton, who now faces a lawsuit.

If the name sounts familiar, good on you, I didn't remember it. But he was one of the faithless AGs who sued the US for voting for Biden. But this part is more damning:



So to make it clear, he was there, he was defending the murderous insurrection. But what must also be clear is that he was there on official business. As such, half the state's newspapers demanded to see his official and therefore by law public records. He refused. And the judge took a dim view on that. He has four days.

"Surely a very fine Paxton on both sides has done nothing else wrong."

He's facing three criminal investigations. Security fraud for example.

"Okay, but if that's all--"

And the FBI, for bribery. Oh, and he fired the whistleblower. That's another reason he's in court.

"Um..."

Oh, and he cheated on his wife. I did say Trump supporter, didn't I?

Remember, these are the supposed "moral majority" types who want the government to fit snugly inside a woman's uterus.

This is the part that people don't seem to get. They will never be treated as anything but Trumpsters, long after they are dead. History is not going to be kind to the Paxtons of the world.