Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[postman1782]

Think we’ll see some “Truths” about it when his app launches tomorrow?

Taking bets on how long it takes for the app and their servers to be hacked. Especially since the code is open source.

[Machismo]

Taking bets on how long it takes for the app and their servers to be hacked. Especially since the code is open source.

I'm waiting for them to be sued by Twitter for obvious trademark violations. It's a practical copy/paste of their app.

[Breccia]

Think we’ll see some “Truths” about it when his app launches tomorrow?

Actually yeah, this is a good point. This might have been the idea.

1) Trump steals top secret info.
2) Trump claims he has top secret info that says (insert baseless objective lie here)
3) Trump supporters, knowing Trump stole top secret info, bypass the felony that is "Trump stole top secret info" and assume the top secret info he stole related to what he's talking about
4) Trump's claims cannot be refuted because sane people who actually serve country over party or Trump wouldn't divulge the stolen info

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I'm waiting for them to be sued by Twitter for obvious trademark violations. It's a practical copy/paste of their app.

Can you imagine if Trump defends against this by claiming free speech when Twitter isn't the government? Or better yet, admits his site is a parody?

[Machismo]

Actually yeah, this is a good point. This might have been the idea.

1) Trump steals top secret info.
2) Trump claims he has top secret info that says (insert baseless objective lie here)
3) Trump supporters, knowing Trump stole top secret info, bypass the felony that is "Trump stole top secret info" and assume the top secret info he stole related to what he's talking about
4) Trump's claims cannot be refuted because sane people who actually serve country over party or Trump wouldn't divulge the stolen info

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Can you imagine if Trump defends against this by claiming free speech when Twitter isn't the government? Or better yet, admits his site is a parody?

I'm looking forward to it.

I'm waiting for it to get hacked, and someone change the name to Nazi Twitter.

[postman1782]

I'm waiting for them to be sued by Twitter for obvious trademark violations. It's a practical copy/paste of their app.

Yep, they will be sued as well. But I can guarantee that as soon as hackers get ahold of it, it will be shut down, just like Parler and GAB were.

[Breccia]

I'm waiting for it to get hacked, and someone change the name to Nazi Twitter.

I would be very disappointed if your posts were not allowed to attach your sig heil.

[Deus Mortis]

My guess it will get hacked within a week, and the admins will also ban people for wrongthink with any opinion that goes against theirs.

[madethisfor1post]

My guess it will get hacked within a week, and the admins will also ban people for wrongthink with any opinion that goes against theirs.

Did they give Thwart a job?

[postman1782]

Did they give Thwart a job?

It is in their ToS, that they can't talk shit about Trump, which is hilarious for a "free speech" platform.

[Machismo]

I would be very disappointed if your posts were not allowed to attach your sig heil.

Well played, sir.

[Levelfive]

Not sure if this already got posted somewhere: https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps...ail&via=mobile

"‘Something Went Wrong’: Trump’s Twitter Ripoff Suffers Botched Launch"

[some guy]

I like the "glitch hunt" tag on it.

[Levelfive]

I like the "glitch hunt" tag on it.

Agreed *chef's kiss*

[Flarelaine]

The classified materials were only part of the 15 boxes.

I don't actually know US law about this, but my guess would be it does not matter. Rules about classified materials are similar everywhere and the point is sending the message "DON'T DO THIS, EVER".

[Breccia]

Not sure if this already got posted somewhere

Not this time, no. The first time, yes.

Apparently he had other plans for it though.

Agreed, and since the Archives just walked in and took them, without Trump throwing a hissy fit on his social media platform, it wasn't evidence of all that stuff he did. My concern remains what was in the documents he destroyed. Those we can't get back.
@Flarelaine is right, though, even if Trump wasn't told "you can't take those" which he 100% was, it's global common knowledge. Yes, he could have declassified them, but then everyone has the info, and he clearly didn't want to do that. Trump committed a felony. If Pvt. Nobody on an army base swiped a few folders, he'd be in jail by now.

[jonnysensible]

wait did trumps social media launch and no one noticed?

[Breccia]

I guess I should add, Trump's social media platform is
a) using AI censors to auto-block certain content, and
b) is effectively open-source code

I can think of several ways for that to go spectacularly wrong.

Now, if effective nobodies like us are able to spot glowing weak points in the Resident Evil monster that is Trump's social media platform, so must the professionals (even bad professionals) that are running it. The question is, what's the angle?

a) I keep bringing up the pump-and-dump. Trump somehow inflating the potential value of this thing to take a lot of money, then keep it as the platform explodes. The way it was purchased, however, I'm not sure how.
b) Trump could simply be trying to get a massive email list from the subscribers.
c) It could be designed to fail, so Trump can say "THEY won't let us do this. THEY will stop you." and then later decide who "THEY" is...or just leave it vague.
d) Or it could just be run-of-the-mill Trump-level incompetence. "Make something that looks like Twitter, but with only one percent of the money necessary to run it", Trump could have said, "if you don't do it I'll fire you". If so, I lose any sympathy for the people who chose to do this. If my boss told me I needed to swap from teaching 200 students in four different courses, to 20,000 in forty, my answer would be "fuck you, I'm not doing that, also I'm unionized". Once I accept that job and sign that contract, it's my own fault if I can't deliver.

Regardless, the cited article is hardly the only one.

Business Insider made an account after five tries -- confirming by the way you need it linked to an email -- then got put in a waitlist to log on in 187,000th place. While wait-listed, they could not read other posts.

The Verge brings up other, more serious issues.

As of this writing, Truth Social’s website is loading intermittently, but collecting names and email addresses for users who wish to sign up. When we visited the site in Chrome or Safari, it served the page to us over an HTTP connection, instead of automatically upgrading us to a more secure HTTPS session. Truth Social does support HTTPS, but it needs to be manually typed in at the beginning of the URL (although links pointing directly to the HTTPS version will result in a secure session).

WaPo said their verification email never arrived.

Reuters has pointed out that posters can't edit after posting. I'll think about that while discussing the oranges of covfefe.

And apparently, the devs left their own beta version public. And there might have been one or two things there they didn't want the public to see. Specifically, one of the devs saying Augusto Pinochet was a great guy. Granted, Trump is also a wannabe dictator, but you don't usually clean your soiled underpants in public.

Now I will say, Nunes has been clear that he thinks Trump's social media platform will be fully ready by the end of March. My response to that is: No Man's Sky, Cyberpunk 2077, Fallout 76. It's easy to find examples of hyped platforms that were eventually acceptable or even good, but took way more than a month to get there. We know very little about Trump's social media platform, other than the teams are so poor at their job they didn't do their job and used someone else's open-source template. Say what you want about CD Projekt Red, Bethesda, and...whoever made No Man's Sky, they did eventually get their work out there in a decent form. But they actually tried, the software was all their own work, and it took...months? Years? And if nothing else, at least you could play the game within an hour of hitting X.

Trump's social media platform can recover from a bumpy launch. Anything can, given time, effort, money and (most importantly?) desire. Trump claims he has a billion dollars of funding but it sure doesn't look like it. Time and effort are clearly not there. Desire is the wild card. Is there any real motivation behind this company to succeed? At some point, they'll either have to pay for more servers, or start chasing away business.

We'll see how it turns out. But you've seen my posts, I link everything. FOX News? Linked it. RT? A few times, it turns out. I'm not touching that site. It appears intentionally built to be a collapsing junk heap, and just because I don't know why it's built that way, doesn't mean I want the rusty scrap metal cutting me open while I poke it curiously. No thanks.

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wait did trumps social media launch and no one noticed?

People noticed. For a brief shining moment, it was the #1 download on the Apple store.

However, the number of people who noticed, judging by those waitlist numbers, was about 200,000 accounts, including actual Trump supporters, reporters, trolls, and bots. Twitter has about 200 million people active every month. Every fight starts somewhere, but Team Trump shouldn't be cheering that they got the boss down to 99.9% health before wiping.

[Gorsameth]

Certainly no moving on from Trump happening, is there? No wonder the Republican party becomes more of a joke each day.

The Republican Party can't move on because their base is Trumps base.
The spend the last decades building this cult at the cost of 'sane' voters. They can't abandon Trump without destroying their own chances in every election.

[Breccia]

Certainly no moving on from Trump happening, is there?

Maybe not, but Sen. Scott is lying. He knows full well McConnell (and others) are trying to back away while they have a shot, saw an opening, and decided he wanted to get on Trump's good list.

We'll see how he feels about the bandwagon if Trump ever gets charged with anything. Backing Trump back in 2016 was one thing -- he was just an incompetent idiot who ruined everything he touched. Now, he's just as bad but also under multiple investigations. Not a lot of people would point at that and say "sign me up!" but apparently this guy is one of them.

[Machismo]

People are assuming the worst, but classified information could be something like having documents with White House employees social security numbers on it. You’re still not supposed to have it at your personal residence but it’s not as serious as people thinking he’s about to sell intel to North Korea or something.

It's not about leaking intel to North Korea.

It's about possibly endangering operations, or worse... the lives of Americans. This isn't the first time he did it, he was busted literally saying classified shit to foreign dignitaries.

This is a clear violation of the law, and there is no wiggle room. We don't know the classification of those documents, but we do know he regularly did this. he even admitted it was standard procedure to break the fucking law. Average government employees have gone to prison for far less.