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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Trump Jr also thought they were undercover FBI as well. https://www.businessinsider.com/dona...6-rally-2021-9

    What would Jr know though? He is probably so hopped up on coke that he wouldn't know.
    You know, the single regret I have with the "R-word" falling out of fashion in the wake of progressive thoughts on being more mindful towards the feelings of others is that it so perfectly describes Trump Jr. and his ilk.

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    Looks like Fox News' graphics guy finally got something right. And it is 100% right, especially since he literally admitted to lying, and people still believe him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    You know, the single regret I have with the "R-word" falling out of fashion in the wake of progressive thoughts on being more mindful towards the feelings of others is that it so perfectly describes Trump Jr. and his ilk.
    Oh, 100%, I call people moronic all day on Tiktok for spreading blatant misinformation, like these morons are still spreading that the Pfizer shot isn't approved, simply because it was named after getting FDA approval, or that the vaccinated people are going to die in 2 years, or that the vaccine causes infertility, or that the January 6th insurrectionists weren't traitors to this country.

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    Wait wait wait, is he really claiming our boy Davey was a fed?

    Holy fuck he's an idiot lol
    Benggaul is right.

    30 Helens Agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Looks like Fox News' graphics guy finally got something right. And it is 100% right, especially since he literally admitted to lying, and people still believe him.
    I thought for sure this was photoshopped, but narp.

    TheWrap: Tucker Carlson Roasted for ‘Man is a Danger to the Country’ On-Air Graphic


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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post


    Looks like Fox News' graphics guy finally got something right. And it is 100% right, especially since he literally admitted to lying, and people still believe him.

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    Oh, 100%, I call people moronic all day on Tiktok for spreading blatant misinformation, like these morons are still spreading that the Pfizer shot isn't approved, simply because it was named after getting FDA approval, or that the vaccinated people are going to die in 2 years, or that the vaccine causes infertility, or that the January 6th insurrectionists weren't traitors to this country.
    Saw this on TYT but just as a screenshot makes this even more funny, knowing that this is real.
    Plus Carlson has this resting doofus face, you can't make this shit up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post


    Looks like Fox News' graphics guy finally got something right. And it is 100% right, especially since he literally admitted to lying, and people still believe him.
    Sometimes drinking coffee infront of a monitor and a keyboard isn't a good idea. Thanks for that.

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    Wow, wonder which bot is getting btfo’d this time.

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    Yet more info from the new book about the final days of Trump in the White House.

    So Trump had lost the election fairly and was throwing a temper tantrum saying he didn't which, near as I can tell, extends even to today. But on Jan 2, he had a meeting with at least Sen. Graham but not his wife who was (cough) indisposed. Giuliani and Meadows gave Graham their "evidence" and, kind of consistent with his tone overall, Graham rejected it as something a third grader might say. Mostly because what they said at the time was "fraud fraud fraud, there was fraud, fraud fraud, Trump won because fraud" which isn't exactly a compelling argument.

    Give me some names. You need to put it in writing. You need to show me the evidence.
    Giuliani eventually did provide the same level of evidence we've come to expect from Trump's crack team, basically, TikTok videos of people saying they saw Elvis vote. Graham, again relatively consistent, told them to give the evidence to the SJC head lawyer who (a) was more equipped to deal with this and (b) was not Graham so Graham could be done with this shit.

    Naturally, the SJC's head lawyer summarily handwaved it. They were not just inconsistent and unpersuasive on their face, they were also written far more sloppily and unprofessionally than you'd think the lawyer of a billionaire...well he claims he is...would write, let alone their political origin.

    Incidentally, while Graham has yet to confirm the book's portrayal of his actions, on Jan 3 he said the following with regard to any SJC action on the matter:

    They will need to provide proof of the charges they are making. They will also need to provide clear and convincing evidence that the failure to act – in both the state and federal courts and the states legislatures which investigated these claims – was made in error. They will also need to show that the failure to take corrective action in addressing election fraud changed the outcome of these states’ votes and ultimately the outcome of the election.

    My colleagues will have the opportunity to make this case, and I will listen closely. But they have a high bar to clear.
    He might have said "high Barr to clear", actually. To the best of my knowledge, no SJC official motion ever came to fruition. Ted Cruz called for a special "throw out the election" committee to audit the vote over ten days until they found something they could use, but I don't believe anything remotely official was ever done other than Cruz waving his tiny dick out the window for everyone to point and laugh.

    Graham gave Trump every chance for over four years. It's shameful, even tragic, that it took a murderous insurrection to cross the line. And it would be comforting if more classic Republicans acted in public they way they did in private, including saying "this is stupid, I'm not doing it" when it is rather than pull a RNCC and just say "we pledge to do whatever Trump wants".

    I expect Trump to have a meltdown when he learns that Graham, oh golly gosh, followed protocol rather than blind obedience to Trump. Incidentally, while looking for a citation for that I instead found the article title "Trump Offered Kelly FBI Head If He Pledged Loyalty: Report" and that tops any joke I could have made on the matter anyhow.

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    @Breccia I’m pretty sure it was Eric crying about constantly being served daily subpoenas this past week. More indictments wouldn’t be shocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    I’m pretty sure it was Eric crying about constantly being served daily subpoenas this past week. More indictments wouldn’t be shocking.
    I mean, it's hard to see the headline Eric Trump melts down on Fox News because he's getting 'subpoena after subpoena after subpoena' and not draw that conclusion. But Weaselberg's lawyer basically said it under oath.

    EDIT: I want to add to that. The Trump family has made it a career to sue other people into submission, or to block lawsuits against them, so they don't have to pay their contractual obligations. NYState doesn't play that shit. Even if Trump was as strong as they think they are, which they're not, but even if they were, they could not stop a NYState criminal investigation through their legal team. Basically, they brought piercing weapons and cold spells to fight skeletons, now they're whining to the DM that they're runing out of hp and spell slots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I mean, it's hard to see the headline Eric Trump melts down on Fox News because he's getting 'subpoena after subpoena after subpoena' and not draw that conclusion. But Weaselberg's lawyer basically said it under oath.

    EDIT: I want to add to that. The Trump family has made it a career to sue other people into submission, or to block lawsuits against them, so they don't have to pay their contractual obligations. NYState doesn't play that shit. Even if Trump was as strong as they think they are, which they're not, but even if they were, they could not stop a NYState criminal investigation through their legal team. Basically, they brought piercing weapons and cold spells to fight skeletons, now they're whining to the DM that they're runing out of hp and spell slots.
    Studying the basics was never a strong point for anyone named Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Your assumption is incorrect because I didn't quote the entire article. The family tried calling hospitals with ECMO machines. Sorry for the confusion.
    Aren't ECMOs like, super expensive compared to regular ventilators?
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



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    I keep seeing "ECTO" here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    Aren't ECMOs like, super expensive compared to regular ventilators?
    Yes, because they're ridiculously complicated. As pointed out earlier:

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    I would assume that most of the hospitals said no for the obvious reason that they don't have an ECMO machine.
    Incidentally that citation appears to be this WaPo article from April 2020 which, yeah, that was some rough shit. They said 264 hospitals have them. Maybe more hospitals have them, but not like 10x as many.

    These things don't just shove air down your throat (oversimplification I know) they remove the blood from your body and add oxygen cell by cell. They're amazing. But they're expensive. In 2014 they cost about $550,000.

    "Wow, that's an expensive machine!"

    Um...no. That's the cost to be put on one. These things are super advanced and require round-the-clock care by experienced, trained technicians. It's such a niche skill that finding a technician might be more difficult than finding the machine -- like, where would they train?

    Respirators, by contrast, are everywhere. Obama left Trump a bunch in reserve, Trump said he didn't but Trump lied of course. And they're a pretty basic machine in comparison...hell, anything short of a nuclear sub is...so finding them is far simpler, and training on them is nearly mandatory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Nope, 100% happened live on air.

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    Sometimes drinking coffee infront of a monitor and a keyboard isn't a good idea. Thanks for that.
    You are welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ati87 View Post
    Saw this on TYT but just as a screenshot makes this even more funny, knowing that this is real.
    Plus Carlson has this resting doofus face, you can't make this shit up.
    He always has that face, because he knows that he is lying all of the time. He even admitted to it, and people are still stupid enough to believe him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Incidentally that citation appears to be this WaPo article from April 2020 which, yeah, that was some rough shit. They said 264 hospitals have them. Maybe more hospitals have them, but not like 10x as many.
    Sort of, I got it from WikiPedia - and that WaPo article cited USAToday, https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/h...rt/1439787001/ that got their data from ELSO; that currently lists 7-8 hospitals in Florida. (So it all checks out, but they surely don't make it easy to find the facts.)

    And it also indicates the slow growth by saying that the numbers had doubled - compared to 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forogil View Post
    And it also indicates the slow growth by saying that the numbers had doubled - compared to 2008.
    Doubling every 11 years is six percent growth or so. Considering it's life-saving equipment and trained users in hospitals, I agree that sounds slow.

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    This is an OP ED, but the author deals with specific figures found from people who know what they're talking about.

    I'll save you the read and go straight for the punchline: the intentional choice of tens of millions of Americans to refuse the vaccine, causing a hundred thousand or more Americans to die, is costing the US a fortune in addition to the deaths themselves.

    The bottom line? The delta variant is projected to claim 120,000 American lives over the second half of this year, and this surge will reduce the annualized rate of GDP growth by one percentage point. Overall, U.S. GDP in 2021 will fall by around $70 billion. This represents a very small share of the United States’s $23 trillion economy, but it nevertheless dwarfs the direct hospitalization costs of the delta surge, and represents an implicit tax of about $210 for every man, women and child in the country.
    Trump supporters will blame Biden for the drop in GDP. Well, those that survive will. I'm calling this behavior out ahead of time to point out that it's bullshit. You can't shoot youself in the foot, then blame the cops for failing to stop you.

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    Another backlog day, another 1059 dead Floridians, sacrificed upon the altar of the cult of death.

    In the last seven days, the state has added an average of 376 deaths each day, the highest ever reported, according to Herald calculations of CDC data.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    "the highest ever reported"
    The highest ever reported so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    The highest ever reported so far.
    Stop stealing this Thursday's news!


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