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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://twitter.com/therecount/statu...61373323784193

    Rafael Cruz, comparing Elizabeth Warren and AOC to "liberals gone wild", just like the adverts for "girls gone wild" he used to see. You know, that group that got in trouble for filming under age girls and IIRC had to shut down.
    "Socialist nuttiness" like "maybe people should be able to afford a decent living" or "maybe we shouldn't by paying what's basically a bi-weekly blood price in children's lives to protect some shitbrains' gun fetishes".

    Why is everything that Republicans choose to use as a favorable comparison always so ethically and morally gross?
    I feel like you know the answer.


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    https://www.joemygod.com/2022/06/atl...ement-and-fbi/

    Trump candidate Herschel Walker seems to have spent years lying about being a member of law enforcement/the FBI. Not linking the direct source since it's paywalled, but this has the relevant bits + a few tweets and a link back for anyone who can access the full article.

    WHY DO REPUBLICANS KEEP LYING ABOUT EASILY VERIFIABLE THINGS LIKE THIS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.joemygod.com/2022/06/atl...ement-and-fbi/

    Trump candidate Herschel Walker seems to have spent years lying about being a member of law enforcement/the FBI. Not linking the direct source since it's paywalled, but this has the relevant bits + a few tweets and a link back for anyone who can access the full article.

    WHY DO REPUBLICANS KEEP LYING ABOUT EASILY VERIFIABLE THINGS LIKE THIS?
    Pretty sure lying about being a member of law enforcement is, like, literally a "go to prison" level crime.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/912

    Send that man to prison. He's confessing to a crime, openly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Not linking the direct source since it's paywalled
    MSNBC has it too.

    In one speech, Walker told a U.S. Army audience about a 2001 incident. “I worked in law enforcement, so I had a gun,” he claimed. In 2017, he specifically said, “I work with the Cobb County Police Department.”

    There’s reason to believe otherwise. The Cobb County Police Department told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution it has no record of Walker working with the department. The Republican’s campaign said he was “an honorary deputy” — a point the Cobb sheriff’s office could not confirm — though a former DeKalb County district attorney said the title was meaningless, even if true.

    Being an “honorary deputy,” a local prosecutor said, is like having “a junior ranger badge.”

    As recently as 2019, Walker also told an audience, “I spent time at Quantico at the FBI training school. Y’all didn’t know I was an agent?”

    Walker has never been an FBI agent. His campaign said he spent a week at an FBI school in Quantico, but a week does not an agent make. (He couldn’t have been an agent anyway, since agents are required to have college degrees, and Walker doesn’t have one, even though he’s claimed otherwise.)
    Regardless of @Endus ' direct comment on the subject, I'm guessing he could avoid jail time by saying "I was being sarcastic/joking/drunk". That said, the statements he made should 100% be thrown back in his face. Even if he lied about being a tax assessor or rodeo clown, it shows not just poor ethical judgement but also lack of insight into the 21st goddam century to lie about your employment history and think nobody will catch it.

    *ahem*

    But.

    Both of y'all missed the showstopper.

    The only meaningful experience the Georgia Republican appears to have with law enforcement was a 2001 incident in which the former athlete “talked about having a shoot-out with police.” Around the same time, Walker’s therapist called the police to say he was “volatile,” armed, and scaring his estranged wife.
    That should be disqualifying in the public eye. But let's face it, the GOP is so desperate for help they'll take anyone -- even those who publicly commit crimes like "pretending to be a cop" or "fucks children".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Being an “honorary deputy,” a local prosecutor said, is like having “a junior ranger badge.”
    I fuckin lol'd. I think I got some of those "junior ranger" badges way back in the day. TIL I've been a part of the federal/state workforces in the National and State parks for decades without my knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I think I got some of those "junior ranger" badges way back in the day.
    They're useless. You don't get dual-wielding until level 5.

    On topic: Team Putin in a Panic Over Jan. 6 Hearings ‘Lynching Trump’

    Assuming that a criminal prosecution against Trump is all but inevitable, state TV host Vladimir Solovyov seemed perturbed during his show The Evening With Vladimir Solovyov last Friday: “Look at what’s going on in America. A criminal prosecution against Trump and his followers is an obvious step towards a dictatorship.” Solovyov failed to mention the kind of penalties one might face in Russia for attempting a violent insurrection, where people get arrested for something so innocuous as holding up a sign that says “Peace,” or even a blank sheet of paper. Since dissenters are not invited to participate in his broadcasts, Solovyov didn’t have to worry about anyone contradicting his portrayal of events in the United States with unflattering comparisons to Russia.

    Dmitry Abzalov, Director of the Center for Strategic Communications, was equally agitated: “The most crucial point is as follows: we need to understand what’s going to happen in the electoral sense. The internal political component is extremely significant. The most important events on our political calendar are local elections in Great Britain as well as a very difficult situation in July and August, since the midterms in the U.S. actually start during summer months. Every Thursday they’ll be lynching Trump in prime time.
    Surely Trump likes a good lynching. Oh, I'm not talking about Pence. I'm talking about him supporting Nazis.

    Interesting that Putin's state-run propaganda vampire masquerading as news thinks Trump's prosecution is so assured. Russia is far more corrupt than even the USA, they should know full well the rich and powerful have special rules. For example, they get to eat non-spoiled turnips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Pretty sure lying about being a member of law enforcement is, like, literally a "go to prison" level crime.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/912

    Send that man to prison. He's confessing to a crime, openly.
    Just gonna say it, Herschel Walker, FBI just gives me Burt Macklin vibes, except Andy Dwyer is a loveable oaf of a character and this prick is an alleged wifebeater.

    Still colossal levels of stupidity to claim something that's easily verifiable and carries a penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnamilk View Post
    Just gonna say it, Herschel Walker, FBI just gives me Burt Macklin vibes, except Andy Dwyer is a loveable oaf of a character and this prick is an alleged wifebeater.

    Still colossal levels of stupidity to claim something that's easily verifiable and carries a penalty.
    I'll go with OJ Simpson in Naked Gun series of movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Pretty sure lying about being a member of law enforcement is, like, literally a "go to prison" level crime.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/912

    Send that man to prison. He's confessing to a crime, openly.
    I think that only implies if he was acting as one. Just claiming you are one isn't illegal. But if he stopped someone on the streets saying he was an FBI agent and tried to detain them or something, that would be the crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefhammer View Post
    I think that only implies if he was acting as one. Just claiming you are one isn't illegal. But if he stopped someone on the streets saying he was an FBI agent and tried to detain them or something, that would be the crime.
    Depends. In my state, you just have the intent to deceive. Don't have to be acting in the capacity of the official you're impersonating.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Pretty sure lying about being a member of law enforcement is, like, literally a "go to prison" level crime.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/912

    Send that man to prison. He's confessing to a crime, openly.
    And the GA law

    https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia...tion-16-10-23/

    Reading the laws literally, he doesn't appear to violate either. He's not impersonating an officer actively, nor attempting to act as an officer. He's simply lying about his past, which doesn't seem to run afoul of either law.

    He worked law enforcement and had a gun. He works with Cobb County Police Department. He spent time at Quantico. He said he was an agent.

    So still dishonest bullshit and lies, and still morally gross, but not explicitly illegal under federal or state law from what I can read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Pretty sure lying about being a member of law enforcement is, like, literally a "go to prison" level crime.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/912

    Send that man to prison. He's confessing to a crime, openly.
    Only if you are trying to come off as one in an official capacity. As in, as the law states, "and acts as such, or in such pretended character demands or obtains any money, paper, document, or thing of value". Just saying he was a cop isn't going to get you to go to jail. If you walk around in a uniform, pulling people over, harassing people on the street or anything else like that, then you go to jail.

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    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...orida-1366990/

    Trump, being the petty bitch he is and apparently worried about a challenge from Ron DeSantis in 2024, wants to officially announce his 2024 bid as close to Ron DeSantis's home as possible.

    “One time that he did bring up the Florida [launch] scenario was quickly followed by him commenting on how terrible DeSantis was at public speaking and commanding an audience … [and that he’s] lacking in so much charisma and he’s so boring that Florida Republicans would leave Ron immediately for Trump [in a 2024 match-up],” says a person who has spoken to Trump about DeSantis on multiple occasions.
    He's big mad someone younger and better looking than him might be more popular than him. Not that Ron's a looker, mind you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    He's big mad someone younger and better looking than him might be more popular than him.
    That's the lowest of low bars...

    I feel like it'd take Hermes Conrad to even get under a bar that figuratively low.


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    https://www.businessinsider.com/oz-p...gn-form-2022-6

    Apparently, "Dr." Oz doesn't even know where he lives in PA, even if he's running to represent them in the Senate.

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    Speaking of Republicans lying about fundraising, Donald Trump.

    The House Jan. 6 committee made its clearest attempt yet at Monday's hearing to establish potential criminal liability by people in former President Trump's inner circle.

    Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) and Amanda Wick, the committee's chief investigative counsel, zeroed in on what the Trump campaign's fundraising emails described as its "Official Election Defense Fund."

    Those emails were central to a Trump fundraising operation that brought in about $250 million after the 2020 election, in part by promising the money would fund legal challenges and other efforts to overturn the election.

    In reality, the committee alleged, millions of dollars were funneled to vehicles like Save America — a leadership PAC set up by Trump after the election — and other political and advocacy groups with ties to top Trump aides.

    What they're saying: "The select committee discovered no such fund existed," Wick revealed in a pre-recorded video, citing taped depositions with two Trump campaign staffers.
    As a reminder, these funds funneled into Trump's PAC after the election, and that includes after Jan 6th. It's highly unlikely any of the $250 million was actually used to help Trump lose the election. Team Trump is likely to avoid criminal prosecution because they posted fine print saying "we're lying, we're just going to keep the money" but it would be nice to see them forced to admit that under oath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Remember how the NRA was claiming that NYState was just attacking them because they felt like it? Well, not only was NYState able to provide evidence of fraud, the NRA didn't present even a single shred of evidence this was a hit job. Turns out, shrilling "WITCH HUNT!" doesn't actually work.
    Bet those claims were more for their supporters than for their lawyers.
    Putin khuliyo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Bet those claims were more for their supporters than for their lawyers.
    Perhaps, or they could have been dragging it out before an objective, definitive loss. Either way, it's classicly Trumpian.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Trump's inner circle at the end was...Giuliani, Sidney Powell, Lin Wood, Peter Navarro...

    Garbage in. Garbage out.
    -- Mulvaney

    YOU WERE TRUMP’S CHIEF OF STAFF WE ALL REMEMBER IT YOU DUMB PSYCHO
    -- everyone else, but specifically Patton Oswalt

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    Russian fixation on lynching never went away, just mutated into something gross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Russian fixation on lynching never went away, just mutated into something gross.
    What do you mean?

    (reads link)

    ...I don't know what I was expecting, to be honest, but holy shit. It's the second most horrifying thing I've seen today.

    Seventeen months after the events of January 6th, Democrats are unable to offer solutions. They are desperate to change the narrative of a failing nation, without even making mention of the havoc and death caused by the Radical Left just months earlier. Make no mistake, they control the government. They own this disaster. They are hoping that these hearings will somehow alter their failing prospects.
    -- the first

    Yep, that's Trump blaming Biden etc. for "havoc and death". I'll admit, I didn't read his 12-page essay because

    rigged
    he is continuing to lie about the election and therefore doesn't deserve it. I assume "havoc and death" is about the riots that not only occured during his tenure, but also, his team organized.

    Oh, and he blamed Biden for the formula shortage. This, too, is a complete farce. @Edge- wrote up a very nice thread on the topic, you can read it here. Trump halted inspections in 2020. This is his fault.

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