1. #78901
    Immortal Poopymonster's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Neverland Ranch Survivor
    Posts
    7,748
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I might owe Team Trump an apology. Kinda. I've been mocking them for forgetting that their text messages (various forms) can be picked up, even if deleted, and used as evidence in a Congressional panel, or courtroom.

    Well, yeah, that's still foolish of them, but not as uncommon as I'd thought. Turns out the Secret Service did the same.



    We already knew Team Trump was using back-channels since Day One, but for the SS to do this and think it would work?

    "Surely operational texts and such are big time security and supposed to be deleted."

    I don't get that vibe.

    First of all, I was under the impression that, generally speaking, deleting govt records was frowned upon.

    Second of all, the fact that the IG is involved suggests this wasn't supposed to happen.

    But thirdly of all, these are texts from Jan 5 and 6. You know, kind of a big deal on the calendar if your job is protecting the motherfucking government. These days and by extension the messages sent on those days were a big deal, and should not have been casually wiped, like with a cloth.

    Perhaps this is nothing, just a few SS agents deleting what they thought were inappropriate/unprofessional messages. But of course the SS were on the scene, and we've already heard they were at least a little involved steering Trump away from the riot.

    Hopefully this can be cleared up. Also, this is the information age. Whatever you do or say, it will be found.
    I am not defending the SS agents, they fucked up.
    I could see them being deleted because they used unflattering terms for their protectee as "That fat orange fuck." "That fucking stupid lump." and "What the fuck is that fucking fucking fuck saying? Speak English motherfucker. English."
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

  2. #78902
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/14/polit...cer/index.html

    DC Metro cop confirms the story of what Cassidy Hutchinson testified to about the assault on the Secret Service driver of the SUV

  3. #78903
    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/14/polit...cer/index.html

    DC Metro cop confirms the story of what Cassidy Hutchinson testified to about the assault on the Secret Service driver of the SUV
    I'm sure we'll hear "That SS driver was a deep state plant that was trying to assassinate Trump and he fought back."

    Dontrike/Shadow Priest/Black Cell Faction Friend Code - 5172-0967-3866

  4. #78904
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    I am not defending the SS agents, they fucked up.
    I could see them being deleted because they used unflattering terms for their protectee as "That fat orange fuck." "That fucking stupid lump." and "What the fuck is that fucking fucking fuck saying? Speak English motherfucker. English."
    What if there was text detailing more information as to why Pence didn't want to get in the car. Maybe he knew of a plan and they were discussing that plan in texts.

    Also, there are probably text messages indicating Trump attempting to grab the wheel and an agent were true, lol.

  5. #78905
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Judge rejects Bannon's attempt to delay trial.

    "You already posted that."

    It happened again an hour ago. Bannon is arguing that the crime he committed is so famous, that every potential juror knows about it, and therefore he can't get a fair trial.

    It's...novel, if nothing else. But it was thrown out.

    "I'm sure we'll be fine if we find 12 people who don't watch the news enough to follow the Jan 6th trial," the judge basically said.
    So what is this fixation on seating jurors who live under stones?

  6. #78906
    Elemental Lord Templar 331's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Waycross, GA
    Posts
    8,327
    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    So what is this fixation on seating jurors who live under stones?
    The only chance they have is to lie so hard that someone who doesn't know anything might be swayed to vote not guilty. Which is sad because you'd think they'd be hoping for a Trumper to tie up the vote. It pretty much speaks volumes of how guilty they know they are.

  7. #78907
    I Don't Work Here Endus's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Ottawa, ON
    Posts
    81,973
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    I am not defending the SS agents, they fucked up.
    I could see them being deleted because they used unflattering terms for their protectee as "That fat orange fuck." "That fucking stupid lump." and "What the fuck is that fucking fucking fuck saying? Speak English motherfucker. English."
    The Secret Service should exist to protect the office. Not the man. And if the man is disgracing the office, the Secret Service should be at the forefront of ensuring Congress gets all the information they need.

    If they're not, they're acting unethically and corruptly and should probably be disbanded in disgrace.


  8. #78908
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    This being a sort of catch-all thread, I'll drop it here. Just made me giggle.
    They have never tried before, even in their own states, why would they care now?

  9. #78909
    Void Lord Breccia's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    NY, USA
    Posts
    41,445
    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    So what is this fixation on seating jurors who live under stones?
    The Templar had it right. Any sane, reasonable, logical person who knows about the Jan 6th murderous insurrection has enough objective facts to know it was a crime. Bannon knows he helped make it happen. His only hope is to flee the country, but he's also a racist which narrows down his options to basically just Russia. So he's going with "find people too stupid to see the sky is blue" so those defenses he's been flinging at the wall -- well, those the court hasn't ruled out -- might Chewbacca him to at least a mistrial.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    I am not defending the SS agents, they fucked up.
    I could see them being deleted because they used unflattering terms for their protectee as "That fat orange fuck." "That fucking stupid lump." and "What the fuck is that fucking fucking fuck saying? Speak English motherfucker. English."
    Yes, but if one of them said "do you know what that fat orange fuck did?" then they become a witness.

    - - - Updated - - -

    WaPo OP ED but as many, it has links to objective facts and then analysis of it.

    “What Trump’s gonna do is just declare victory,” said Stephen K. Bannon. “Right? He’s gonna declare victory. But that doesn’t mean he’s a winner. He’s just gonna say he’s a winner.”

    Bannon, who played a key command center role on Jan. 6, 2021, said this to a group of associates on Oct. 31, 2020, according to audio obtained by Mother Jones. A few days later, President Donald Trump actually did this: He declared victory prematurely on election night, kicking off a months-long effort to cling to power illegitimately, culminating in the attack on the Capitol.

    Many have noted that the audio confirms Trump intended to cast doubt on the outcome no matter what happened with the voting. Bannon says on the audio that this would cause a “firestorm,” which presumably would lay the groundwork for the next stage: months of corrupt scheming to reverse the results.

    On the audio, Bannon essentially gave away a crucial piece of Trump’s whole corrupt scheme. But not in the way it first appears. Bannon has now opened the door to a host of new inquiries centered on this question: How premeditated a part of the coup plot was a premature declaration of victory from Trump?
    Bannon has confirmed the audio. At this point, he's got a real problem -- hence the nonsensical defenses, probably filed while sobbing hysterically. Not only is there objective, and now admitted, proof that he was part of a federal fraud scheme, he could also be a direct link to Trump on the matter.

    Trump and Bannon's relationship has been nonstandard, by Trump definitions. Trump fired Bannon years before and was desperate enough to bring him back. Look back at Trump's history, "prodigal son" is rare. Well, except for Kushner. Bannon was faced with a nearly insurmountable task: get Trump, who was losing, a win, without the votes to win. It was the only way back into Trump's good graces. Breitbart had lost 75% of its viewers by then.

    The long odds he faced left him with only one sane choice: stay a law-abiding citizen and admit he couldn't do it. Bannon didn't take that route. So he helped Eastman and others of Team Trump and orchestrated an attempt to have the person who got fewer votes to hold power through fraud and violence.

    He should have run. Russia wasn't that bad...yet.

  10. #78910
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Love it! Be more of a piece of feces, Donald.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    The Secret Service should exist to protect the office. Not the man. And if the man is disgracing the office, the Secret Service should be at the forefront of ensuring Congress gets all the information they need.

    If they're not, they're acting unethically and corruptly and should probably be disbanded in disgrace.
    Well I posted in other thread, we always get some bleed over.

    (Puts on tinfoil hat). Yes the Secret Service may have a loyalty problem and possibly agents were handpicked as Trump loyalist. So the sorta incorrect abbreviation of SS as a personal bodyguard unit to a fascist President might be appropiate. I wouldn't be surprised that Trump fished or SS agents came forward who swore loyalty to his fascist movement.

    The only benefit of the doubt I give is Tony Onoto, who was an SS agent, then Trump appointee and then back to SS, around the time of Jan 6th(?). That itself is suspicious. So it might be a top down operation with unwillingly people, or a few who again are with the fascist movement.
    "Buh dah DEMS"

  11. #78911
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    This being a sort of catch-all thread, I'll drop it here. Just made me giggle.
    Just like when Abbot said he could end all rape.

    Dontrike/Shadow Priest/Black Cell Faction Friend Code - 5172-0967-3866

  12. #78912
    Ya'll remember how Matt Gaetz was supposed to go to jail for statutory rape?

    When Gaetz goes to jail, I'll actually believe Garland is capable of prosecuting anyone else. People died on January 6. This commission has given the DoJ enough evidence to indict half of the Trump administration on everything from treason to conspiracy to commit murder.

    The entire Democratic platform now has been reduced to "We aren't fascist, we're just fascist enablers, vote for us, it's still better than the fascists."

    At this point I have so little respect left for everyone in the Biden administration that I'd struggle not to spit right into their faces if I ever crossed path with any of them.

  13. #78913


    What dependency on fossil fuel looks like.

    Biden is begging Saudi Arabia to increase oil production. They have said "no" so far. What can you do?

    Edit: Whoops! Thought this was Biden Thread when I posted. Meh
    Last edited by Paranoid Android; 2022-07-15 at 11:43 PM.
    "Buh dah DEMS"

  14. #78914
    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    What dependency on fossil fuel looks like.

    Biden is begging Saudi Arabia to increase oil production. They have said "no" so far. What can you do?
    We could do all sorts of things instead of begging them for help.

    Like "Increase oil production or NATO might have to reconsider all future weapon sales, security collaboration and we might have to cozy up to Iran." Unfortunately our Congress has been sold wholesale to Israel and Saudi Arabia.

  15. #78915
    Void Lord Breccia's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    NY, USA
    Posts
    41,445
    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    What dependency on fossil fuel looks like.
    I, too, remember when Trump begged the Saudis to increase oil production. Hell, he was basically selling off public land to oil drills every second he was in office.

    Even to this day, Team Trump is fighting for oil, criticizing Biden's refusal to sell more leases while existing leases aren't being used. They're fighting for every single drop, even the drops the American people have proven they don't need or want. Which admittedly isn't much.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Okay so as I mentioned before, Musk was due to buy Twitter by October, he's bailing, and Twitter is suing in September.

    Musk is trying to push back to February.

    Considering the lawsuit by Twitter is at least trying to enforce the purchase, I don't see why a delay would be granted. Remember all those Trump lawsuits that got tossed Jan 7th? If October comes and Musk hasn't either bought Twitter or paid them off, he'll be in court anyhow.

  16. #78916

  17. #78917
    Immortal Poopymonster's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Neverland Ranch Survivor
    Posts
    7,748
    Quote Originally Posted by CastletonSnob View Post
    https://twitter.com/mitchellreports/...5Es1_&ref_url=

    Trump is FUNDRAISING off of his dead ex-wife.
    The only surprise is it took this long.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

  18. #78918
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    The only surprise is it took this long.
    He was fundraising off her death within the same post he announced on Truth Social that she died.

  19. #78919
    Void Lord Breccia's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    NY, USA
    Posts
    41,445
    Quote Originally Posted by CastletonSnob View Post
    Trump is FUNDRAISING off of his dead ex-wife.
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    The only surprise is it took this long.
    It didn't. Oh, I'm not blaming you for posting. It's 100% news about the shitty human-shaped life form that Trump is. But you were second to the punch.

    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    He was fundraising off her death within the same post he announced on Truth Social that she died.
    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Yeah, he was doing this yesterday. Trump is a sociopath, and Ivana never once campaigned for him. The closest they got was both trying to protect their mutual divorce records from people wanting to see Trump's taxes.

  20. #78920
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    It didn't. Oh, I'm not blaming you for posting. It's 100% news about the shitty human-shaped life form that Trump is. But you were second to the punch.





    Yeah, he was doing this yesterday. Trump is a sociopath, and Ivana never once campaigned for him. The closest they got was both trying to protect their mutual divorce records from people wanting to see Trump's taxes.
    The only reason it was mutual, was because Trump was going to give her millions to keep quiet about the rape and assault of her by pulling her hair out of her scalp. Trump gave her more after she was going to speak about that.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •