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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    106,876 new cases; 1,438 deaths, bringing the total to 803,045.
    Has FL reported numbers yet? I saw idiots using some Thanksgiving-week data to brag about how covid didn't exist in Florida, not realizing that Florida simply hadn't reported any data to the CDC and that's why it showed as no new cases.

    Also, I hate that we're over 800K and are continuing to approach 1,000,000. This didn't need to happen. This was avoidable. It still is avoidable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    I’d send prayers to the Lamb family, but those already got them one dead family member. Get vaccinated and only take dewormer if, you know, you have worms.
    Maybe they just offered the wrong thoughts and prayers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I saw idiots using some Thanksgiving-week data to brag about how covid didn't exist in Florida, not realizing that Florida simply hadn't reported any data to the CDC and that's why it showed as no new cases.
    I'm going to guess that, once those numbers are reported, these same people would not only fail to issue corrections but would yell at anyone who pointed out their objective falsehood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    He caught it at the Rose Garden party celebrating ACB's appointment and, if we're honest, the death of RBG.
    I'm not sure that's quite right. The Rose Garden party was Sept 26, and he tested positive on Sept 26. I don't know what the chances of testing positive a couple hours after exposure are ... but I think a more likely scenario is that Trump WAS the superspreader at the Rose Garden party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solinari6 View Post
    I'm not sure that's quite right. The Rose Garden party was Sept 26, and he tested positive on Sept 26. I don't know what the chances of testing positive a couple hours after exposure are ... but I think a more likely scenario is that Trump WAS the superspreader at the Rose Garden party.
    And I thought the patient zero for the Rose Garden was Amy Covid Bearer herself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by solinari6 View Post
    but I think a more likely scenario is that Trump WAS the superspreader at the Rose Garden party.
    Yeah, that timeline makes more sense.

    Man, and nobody can do shit about it, either. Presidential immunity is wonderful.

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    So, if I'm reading this right, there was a FOIA lawsuit (CREW) against the White House looking for documentation Barr had about whether or not Mueller's evidence warranted charges against Trump.

    Biden is holding some of this back, which isn't the issue here but probably also demands discussion in Biden's thread. But Biden's team did not write the requested item. This lawsuit is 2 years old.

    But the judge apparently said that, because Barr had long ago decided Trump would not be charged no matter what, the documents the lawsuit were asking for were, therefore, not decision-based and therefore were not protected from FOIA. Basically, Executive Privilege is meant to protect who the President talks to and why, when making policy. It does not protect announcements that Trump is above the law.

    DOJ has been disingenuous to this Court with respect to the existence of a decision-making process that should be shielded by the deliberative process privilege. The agency’s redactions and incomplete explanations obfuscate the true purpose of the memorandum, and the excised portions contradict the notion that it fell to the Attorney General to make a prosecution decision or that any such decision was on the table at any time.
    The judge in question is not particularly happy with Barr, who apparently lied to her specificially. Also, the document was handed over to Congress, that's probably why CREW know it exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solinari6 View Post
    I'm not sure that's quite right. The Rose Garden party was Sept 26, and he tested positive on Sept 26. I don't know what the chances of testing positive a couple hours after exposure are
    Nearly zero.

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    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/01/ghis...user-says.html

    A woman who says she was sexually abused by late sex criminal and financier Jeffrey Epstein and British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell testified Wednesday that Epstein took her to meet Donald Trump at his Florida club when she was 14 years old.

    The woman, in testimony at Maxwell’s federal sex crime trial, did not allege any improper conduct by Trump when she met him at his Mar-a-Lago resort.

    Nor did the woman characterize what happened at that meeting, which she confirmed under cross-examination by Maxwell’s lawyer Laura Menninger in U.S. District Court in Manhattan.
    So, no impropriety on Trumps part in this meeting. But weird that Trump was hosting Epstein and the children he was sexually exploiting at his club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    But weird that Trump was hosting Epstein and the children he was sexually exploiting at his club.
    Is this where I say "I'm sure there are very fine child rapists on both sides"?

    I don't get why Trump would do this. Or, you know, why anyone would do this, who wasn't actually there for the cihld rape.

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    Iran is all but confirmed enriching weapon-grade uranium. Why wouldn't they? The Nuclear Deal is broken. They should either do what's good for them, or use it as a hostage bargaining chip.

    This is on Trump. He directly encouraged this to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Has FL reported numbers yet? I saw idiots using some Thanksgiving-week data to brag about how covid didn't exist in Florida, not realizing that Florida simply hadn't reported any data to the CDC and that's why it showed as no new cases.

    Also, I hate that we're over 800K and are continuing to approach 1,000,000. This didn't need to happen. This was avoidable. It still is avoidable.
    They've reported an average of about 1.5k for about a month now, and yeah, I've seen those same morons. I expect the numbers there will start heading up about the same time as the rest of the south does...not that we'll know it, because ever since they changed their reporting method I've been smelling some other shenanigans out of there. Fuck Florida.

    And yes, the main reason I keep posting COVID stuff here instead of in the Gen-OT thread (apart from the fact that it invariably gets political and I'm tired of reading deniers in that thread justifying themselves with absolute bullshit) is because most of the deaths were avoidable but because we had someone in office who kept downplaying it from the very beginning instead of asking his fucknut base to be responsible somehow this became a "political" issue instead of a "public health and safety" issue.
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    House Minority Leader McCarthy spent today yelling at his fellow Republicans, who were busy tweeting mean things at each other instead of doing their job.

    Congress is not junior high
    McCarthy is half right. As pointed out earlier, almost half the country voted for someone whose only admin experience was mean tweets. It should not surprise him at all that his 2020 colleagues are following exactly this approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    The Michigan office of US Rep. Dingell was broken into and vandalized.

    Not doubt the Trump inspired asshats. She and her staff have been the victim of violent threats for awhile now.
    I noticed you and everyone else skipped and ignored the probation sentence for Thomas Alexander Starks.

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    It's heeeerreee...

    First US omicron case detected in California

    It's California, the most populous state in the US, so it's bound to drive their numbers up but mostly in the Trumper counties that have ignored all safety precautions thus far anyway. Just hope nobody has any important hospital appointments coming up soon because the preliminary findings on Omicron suggest those beds will be full.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasRules View Post
    I noticed you and everyone else skipped and ignored the probation sentence for Thomas Alexander Starks.
    I'll be honest, I hadn't even heard about that one. I would recommend everyone read up on the white guy who got no prison time for terrorism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasRules View Post
    I noticed you and everyone else skipped and ignored the probation sentence for Thomas Alexander Starks.
    Nice whataboutism. I don't think you'll find anyone defending him, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    It's heeeerreee...

    First US omicron case detected in California

    It's California, the most populous state in the US, so it's bound to drive their numbers up but mostly in the Trumper counties that have ignored all safety precautions thus far anyway. Just hope nobody has any important hospital appointments coming up soon because the preliminary findings on Omicron suggest those beds will be full.
    I expect New York and Illinois to start having appearances of Omicron as well very soon. The three states with the three largest international airports are going to be a hot bed for Omicron...and I'm certain that Right Wing Media is going to go full-blown tinfoil hat and blame vaccines and masks being worthless when it does happen.
    “You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it.”― Malcolm X

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain N View Post
    I expect New York and Illinois to start having appearances of Omicron as well very soon.
    We are already in a state of emergency. I have already told my family it's possible I won't be coming "home" for the holidays because they wouldn't let me back in if I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain N View Post
    I expect New York and Illinois to start having appearances of Omicron as well very soon. The three states with the three largest international airports are going to be a hot bed for Omicron...and I'm certain that Right Wing Media is going to go full-blown tinfoil hat and blame vaccines and masks being worthless when it does happen.
    Yep, just in time for all family and friends to get together. The good news is I expect mortality to be way down compared to last Winter; the bad news is we're still at a "starting" position of over 1k daily average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasRules View Post
    I noticed you and everyone else skipped and ignored the probation sentence for Thomas Alexander Starks.
    Love your whataboutism - that and all your other lies just keep us laughing. Thanks for the chucks.

    Who is this guy and why should any of us care?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    It's heeeerreee...

    First US omicron case detected in California

    It's California, the most populous state in the US, so it's bound to drive their numbers up but mostly in the Trumper counties that have ignored all safety precautions thus far anyway. Just hope nobody has any important hospital appointments coming up soon because the preliminary findings on Omicron suggest those beds will be full.
    First confirmed US case of Omicron coronavirus variant detected in California

    The important parts.

    In a White House news briefing, Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said the case was in an individual who traveled from South Africa on November 22 and tested positive for Covid-19 on November 29.

    That individual, Fauci said, is self-quarantining and close contacts have tested negative for the coronavirus so far.

    The person was fully vaccinated and is experiencing "mild symptoms, which are improving at this point," Fauci said.
    Since the sequencing was done by UCSF, I suspect the case occurred in the Bay Area.

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