Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[solinari6]

DeSantis has enough stage presence that he could hold his own. Pence? Not even close. Cruz? We already saw that play out.

I'm not sure where you are getting that, everything I've seen says that DeSantis doesn't have the personality to make it nationally. Honestly, I think that Republicans should try for a candidate who isn't a legit asshole. I mean, that's kind of why they lost 2022, they turned into a party of assholes. It was exhausting. Someone normal like Youngkin would serve them much better than DeSantis.

[Ivanstone]

I'm not sure where you are getting that, everything I've seen says that DeSantis doesn't have the personality to make it nationally. Honestly, I think that Republicans should try for a candidate who isn't a legit asshole. I mean, that's kind of why they lost 2022, they turned into a party of assholes. It was exhausting. Someone normal like Youngkin would serve them much better than DeSantis.

Youngkin is a more boring version of DeSantis. All of the asshole, little of the bombast. He's also a businessman first and a politician second. Just waiting for him to lead poison some black people like Rick Snyder did.

[Elegiac]

I'm not sure where you are getting that, everything I've seen says that DeSantis doesn't have the personality to make it nationally. Honestly, I think that Republicans should try for a candidate who isn't a legit asshole. I mean, that's kind of why they lost 2022, they turned into a party of assholes. It was exhausting. Someone normal like Youngkin would serve them much better than DeSantis.

Very much this.

DeSantis' current position is much more a function of the Florida Democratic Party being an absolute firetrap. He's severely lacking in charisma and, unlike Trump in 2016, is a known factor in terms of political policy which makes it harder for independents to project their fantasies upon; so he'd very quickly run into the dilemma of things that play well with Y'all Qaeda being a turnoff for more moderate voters and vice versa.

[Milchshake]

Siri, which media outlet misses their Daddy Trump the most?

[Breccia]

apparently Trump's shitty daughter and shitty son-in-law don't want anything to do with Trump Part Deux and Trump is begging them to join his announcement.

UPDATE: Ivanka is out.

Ivanka skips Trump’s 2024 announcement, says she’s done with politics

As Trump was announcing his 2024 presidential run on Tuesday, there were several notable no-shows, including many longtime supporters including previous campaign managers, aides, and also Ivanka.

“I love my father very much,” she said in a statement. “This time around, I am choosing to prioritize my young children and the private life we are creating as a family. I do not plan to be involved in politics.

Photo/Charlie Neibergall, File)
Former US president Donald Trump’s daughter Ivanka said Tuesday that she would not take an active role in his renewed White House bid, releasing a statement saying that while she “will always love and support my father,” she does not plan to be involved in his campaign.

As Trump was announcing his 2024 presidential run on Tuesday, there were several notable no-shows, including many longtime supporters including previous campaign managers, aides, and also Ivanka.

“I love my father very much,” she said in a statement. “This time around, I am choosing to prioritize my young children and the private life we are creating as a family. I do not plan to be involved in politics.

“While I will always love and support my father, going forward I will do so outside the political arena. I am grateful to have had the honor of serving the American people and will always be proud of many of our administration’s accomplishments,” she added.

Proud of what, exactly, she did not say.

On Monday, the New York Post reported that thing @Edge- already cited.

“They both feel they got burned in Washington and don’t want to go back and expose themselves and their children to another bitter campaign,” the outlet quoted an “insider” as saying.

The same unnamed source said the refusal had created “extra behind-the-scenes tension” within the family, as Ivanka’s siblings Donald Jr. and Eric and their partners were set to actively support the campaign.

The article goes on to remind everyone that Trump nearly fired Kushner in his final year. I'll cite that too.

Trump agreed to fire his son-in-law Jared Kushner and replace him with far-right provocateur Steven Bannon, according to a new book written by former Trump aide Peter Navarro, The Guardian reported Saturday.

Navarro cites a June 25, 2020, entry in his own diary which said a meeting took place between Bannon and major campaign donors.

“Bannon and the donors “want[ed] Kushner and Brad Parscale [the campaign manager] out the door,” the entry apparently read.

Navarro proceeded to set up a meeting between Trump and one of the anti-Kushner donors, where Trump “readily agreed… that Jared had to be replaced with Steve.”

Despite Trump’s acceptance of the proposal, Navarro said the plan ultimately failed after Trump refused to deliver the bad news to Kushner himself, citing the family relationship.

The book claims Trump was concerned about “family troubles if [he] himself had to deliver the bad news to … the father of his grandchildren,” instead asking a major party donor, Bernie Marcus, to deliver the news.

When Marcus made the call, Kushner apparently responded that “things were fine with the campaign, there was no way he was stepping down and, in effect, Bernie Marcus and his big moneybags could go pound sand.”

Navarro concluded, “And the rest is a catastrophic strategic failure.”

"Is that bolded why you went with the citation?

No...

Navarro, who is considered a Trump loyalist, was clearly far less enamored with Kushner, titling one chapter of his book “Both Nepotism and Excrement Roll Downhill.”

That one is.

So with Ivanka out, Kushner is al--

"Don't be so sure"

You again?

"Trump will almost certainly run without the shackles the GOP imposed in 2016, but he also is despised by most of his former staff, whom he ignored, made bad decisions, and put some of them in jail. Kushner avoided all of that and landed some good business deals while in the White House, for which he has yet to be investigated. He's proven where his loyalties lie."

No, there's no way. I barely get the Conway thing, but the Kushner/Ivanka split? Not buying it.

"Then you should have read the guest list."

Multiple sources have lists of people who attended. Yes, Melania was there.

Noticeably absent, however, were GOP lawmakers. Only one, Rep. Madison Cawthorn, was spotted by Insider reporter Kimberly Leonard in the Mar-a-Lago Grand Ballroom.

Also absent were three of Trump's children, Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump, and Tiffany Trump. Following the announcement, Ivanka Trump, in a statement to ABC, said that she no longer plans to be involved in politics.

She waited until after to make her choice public. I think Trump already knew.

Trump loyalists in attendance included his former adviser Roger Stone and MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell.

"Couldn't you have found a less creeper-pervy picture?"
"Oh, absolutely I could have. I just didn't want to."


"Mr. Lindell, why are you hiding your boner? Is it because it's only this big?"
"What concerns me more is that guy to your left who reeeeeeeeally wants a picture of it."

Notable Trump supporters in attendance included Russell Vought, former deputy director of the Office of Management and Budget during the Trump presidency, Trump's former campaign adviser Jason Miller, and former White House Deputy Press Secretary Hogan Gidley.

Also in attendance were Trump family members Barron Trump, Eric Trump and his wife Lara, and Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner, who were all seen walking into the event together.

"Told you."

Fuck! So, Donnie Dum-Dum Jr. didn't make it? What does that tell us?

"Nothing we don't already know. Donald doesn't love his children, he loves the money his children make, just like the 'love' his father showed him. Donald Trump Jr. also knows that a 2024 run isn't necessarily in his best interest. Don't forget, the last run cost him his marriage. He also knows that, if Trump wins, it'll be on him to run the businesses. The standard nepotism, corruption, and ignoring of laws and safeguards that divesting is supposed to prevent. Don Jr. added nothing to the White House, so there's no reason for him to back this play. He has money to make."

Well why was Eric there?

"He had literally nothing else to do."

With major names basically missing, and for all I know Melania covered by snipers with orders to kill if she stopped smiling, and let's not forget this event was announced long beforehand, this turnout is a real bust. There just isn't the support for Trump that there needs to be for him to have a realistic chance. A lot changes in two years, but so far, DeSantis is beating Trump and he hasn't even announced yet.

[Elegiac]

It's the comic sans for me.

[Fugus]

The guy who called his daughter an abortionist bitch is in attendance I see….

[Breccia]

Well, the hits, they keep on comin'

1) Trump's 2024 bid hit with immediate challenge from group behind 'disqualification clause' lawsuits

So, remember that 14th Amendment thing? Yeah...some other people do, too.

Free Speech For People and Mi Familia Vota are launching a campaign via TrumpIsDisqualified.org to urge secretaries of state and other chief elections officials to bar the former president from running for office under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, known as the disqualification clause.

Enacted after the Civil War, the clause blocks any person from holding federal office who has taken an oath to protect the Constitution -- including a member of Congress -- but who has "engaged in insurrection" against the U.S. or "given aid or comfort" to its "enemies."

Free Speech For People previously filed challenges against other elected Republicans like Reps. Madison Cawthorn and Marjorie Taylor Greene, arguing their actions around Jan. 6 and support for overturning the 2020 election results amounted to the disqualifying behavior. Neither Cawthorn nor Greene participated in the rioting, though Cawthorn spoke at a Trump rally beforehand; Greene has said she was a "victim" along with other lawmakers.

Free Speech For People said it intends to file similar legal challenges against Trump but declined to provide more details to ABC News.

Now, you might be thinking "surely a red state would never do this". Well, a red state that wanted to win might. What if, for example, Abbott kicks Trump off the Texas ballot? One shot, boom, Trump loses 2024. Done. If Abbott wants a Republican President in 2024, that might be his best shot.

2) How petty is Donald Trump? This petty.

The highest-ranking Trump Organization executive to be charged in an alleged criminal tax fraud scheme told the jury that soon after he pleaded guilty, the firm knocked his title down and booted him off the prestige floor on which Donald Trump worked.

Former chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg, the prosecution’s star witness in the trial of two Trump companies, took the stand Tuesday in state court in Manhattan in a charcoal suit and blue tie. Weisselberg, 75, said that after entering his plea in August and agreeing to testify against the companies — which are accused of hiding taxable income inside luxurious perks — his title was reduced to senior adviser.

“My location changed as well,” he told the jury, under questioning by Executive Assistant District Attorney Susan Hoffinger, explaining that he lost his perch on the 26th story of Trump Tower and was moved down a floor.

"Okay, that sounds petty, but predictable."

Yes, but:

He then described a party that Trump Organization executives nevertheless threw for him.

“Much to my regret,” Weisselberg said, “my son wanted to make sure I had a birthday party” and arranged for it at Trump Tower.

“It was a small birthday cake,” he added.

They downsized his birthday cake. Which, of course, fits perfectly with Trump insisting only he get two scoops of ice cream. You remember that part, right?

3) We have more on the "FOX News cut away from Trump" hilarity.

Trump’s announcement Tuesday didn't have a backlit entrance or a bizarre descent on an escalator. Instead, it was perhaps, to borrow a Trump phrase, the most "low energy" speech of his career. Minute after minute, he droned on. "This is something I don't need," he admitted at one point, "and a lot of you people don’t need, either." After nearly 40 minutes, perhaps sensing how bored his audience was, he urged them to sit down. Even Fox News cut away. "We’re going back to Trump," said host Laura Ingraham, "when news warrants."

4) And finally, we've all seen the "You know you're fucked when even XXX doesn't like you" about Trump. Pence? Cruz? Gaetz? Ingraham, from me ten seconds ago?

Would you believe...fucking Blackstone?

Blackstone Inc (BX.N) Chief Executive Stephen Schwarzman, who has been one of Wall Street's biggest donors to Donald Trump's election campaigns, said on Wednesday he will not back the former president in 2024.

Schwarzman said it was time for new party leadership and that he would back a different Republican in the presidential contest. "It is time for the Republican Party to turn to a new generation of leaders and I intend to support one of them in the presidential primaries," he said in a statement, which was first reported by Axios.

"America does better when its leaders are rooted in today and tomorrow, not today and yesterday,"

Emphasis mine.

You only get one chance to make a first impression. Trump ran as a paradoxically tread-upon outsider underdog who happened to be the best at everything. Yeah, it didn't make sense at the time, either, but idiots bought it. He's already got a problem in that he can't do that twice. But, Trump also got support from people who thought they could benefit.

"W--"

Yes yes I know, nobody in their right mind would invest in Donald Trump. But, some people did anyway. Blackstone didn't get paid. So, they're not fighting for him a second time. To put this in perspective: Schwarzman... Schwarz Man? Now that's an interesting take. Sounds Nazi, doesn't it? Anyhow, the man who became rich on war for profit gave $35.5 million this election alone. That's more than the RNC has total. Losing Blackstone hurts.

I mean, Trump is losing the neocons right and alt-right. Who's next, Pompeo?

(ding)

Hold on, I got a notification...HAH.

We need more seriousness, less noise, and leaders who are looking forward, not staring in the rearview mirror claiming victimhood.

-- Pompeo, two hours ago

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Ladies, gentlemen, nonbinaries and deplorables I just triggered with the word "nonbinaries", I know when I am beaten. Let it never be said that Chef Breccia did not show proper respect to a superior foe.

With that, may I present...the National Review.



"No fair editing pics."

I didn't. That's literally the entire headline of the OP ED. You can check it yourself. Click on the link, or just go there directly. That's literally their headline. The one word, "no".

Let the rest of the OP ED be my concession speech.

To paraphrase Voltaire after he attended an orgy, once was an experiment, twice would be perverse.

A bruised Donald Trump announced a new presidential bid on Tuesday night, an invitation to double down on the outrages and failures of the last several years that Republicans should reject without hesitation or doubt.

To his credit, Trump killed off the Clinton dynasty in 2016, nominated and got confirmed three constitutionalist justices, reformed taxes, pushed deregulation, got control of the border, significantly degraded ISIS in Syria and Iraq, and cinched normalization deals between Israel and the Gulf states, among other things. These are achievements that even his conservative doubters and critics — including NR — can acknowledge and applaud.

That said, the Trump administration was chaotic even on its best days because of his erratic nature and lack of seriousness. He often acted as if he were a commentator on his own presidency, and issued orders on Twitter and in other off-the-cuff statements that were ignored. He repeatedly had to be talked out of disastrous ideas by his advisers and Republican elected officials. He turned on cabinet officials and aides on a dime. Trump had a limited understanding of our constitutional system, and at the end of the day, little respect for it. His inability to approximate the conduct that the public expects of a president undermined him from beginning to end.

The latter factor played an outsized role in his narrow defeat to a feeble Joe Biden in 2020 in what was a winnable race. Of course, unable to cope with the humiliation of the loss, he pursued a shameful attempt to overturn the result of the election. He didn’t come close to succeeding, but it wasn’t for lack of trying. The episode ended with Trump, in a grotesque abuse of his powers, trying to bully Vice President Pence into unilaterally delaying or changing the count of electoral votes on January 6 and with an inflamed pro-Trump mob storming the Capitol while the president gave no indication that he particularly minded.

In the midst of this, he threw away two Georgia Senate seats in a fit of pique over Governor Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger refusing to bend to his will. The resulting loss of Senate control allowed Biden to get trillions of dollars in spending that he wouldn’t have gotten otherwise and confirm large numbers of progressive judges.

Since then, Trump has maintained his grip on the party and done all he can to force it to accept his delusions and lies about the 2020 election — boosting conspiracy theorists and fanatics and targeting for defeat, with considerable success, anyone pushing back too hard against him or his obsessions.

Trump’s success in imposing his fixations and candidate choices on the GOP played a large role in the GOP debacle in the midterms. This political backdrop raises the possibility that his low-energy announcement speech may be a damp squib.

Certainly, GOP voters should give up on the idea that Trump is a winner. After securing the GOP nomination with plurality support in 2016, Trump didn’t exceed 47 percent in either of his campaigns, winning in 2016 with 46.1 percent and losing in 2020 with 46.8. This is, to say the least, a very narrow electoral path, and one must assume that with all that’s transpired since 2020, Trump is weaker than in his first two races.

The party’s position has significantly eroded under his hegemony. When Trump announced his first campaign in 2015, Republicans were coming off a historic wave election, which brought them to 54 Senate seats, and 247 House seats. Republicans then lost the House in 2018, lost the Senate in 2020, and blew a chance for large gains this year. Now, they are looking at 49 or 50 Senate seats, and a razor-thin margin of control of the House of Representatives. On top of this, Republicans had 31 governorships; they now have 25, and have lost crucial ground in state legislatures, too.

A lesson of the midterms was that association with Trump and “stop the steal” were liabilities, and no one is more associated with both of those things than Donald Trump himself. Democrats helped choose MAGA candidates that were eminently defeatable in GOP primaries this year, and nominating Trump — whom Democrats are pining to run against again — in 2024 would replicate this experience on a much larger scale.

Needless to say, Trump is a magnetic political figure who has managed to bond countless millions of Republicans to him. Many GOP voters appreciate his combativeness and hate his enemies, who so often engaged in excesses in pursuit of him. Once he won the nomination in 2016, they understandably voted for him in 2016 and 2020, given the alternatives. But the primaries won’t present a choice between Trump and progressives with calamitous priorities for the nation, but other Republicans who aren’t, in contrast to him, monumentally selfish or morally and electorally compromised. (And it should be added, won’t be 78 years old if elected and ineligible to serve two terms.)

It’s too early to know what the rest of the field will look like, except it will offer much better alternatives than Trump.

The answer to Trump’s invitation to remain personally and politically beholden to him and his cracked obsessions for at least another two years, with all the chaos that entails and the very real possibility of another highly consequential defeat, should be a firm, unmistakable, No.

I cannot top that headline. You win, National Review, you win.

[Edge-]

https://twitter.com/LeglGhostwriter/...08862189088769



Florida Man's announcement of his presidential campaign was on page 26 in the NY Post...and it is not kind. rofl.

[Breccia]

Florida Man's announcement of his presidential campaign was on page 26 in the NY Post...and it is not kind. rofl.

That...that...no, National Review was still better. But damn, that was hilarious!

[Edge-]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...im-victimhood/

And add Mike Pompeo to the list of Trump cultists who are throwing off their cultists robes as they increasingly realize their cult leader is a fuckin loser.

“We need more seriousness, less noise, and leaders who are looking forward, not staring in the rearview mirror claiming victimhood,”

I wonder where this Mike Pompeo was 6 years ago? Was he inside the previous Mike Pompeo, just waiting to come out?

[Breccia]

I wonder where this Mike Pompeo was 6 years ago?

Did you read the comments after that tweet? There's a lot of MAGA going after him.

"MAGAGA".

The fuck did you call me?

"Trump may have swapped his famous slogan to MAGAGA, as in, Make America Great And Glorious Again."

Does...does he know that sounds like makaka? Because that's a re--

"We're not going there, it doesn't end well. Trump announced his candidacy by saying:"

In order to make America great and glorious again I am tonight announcing my candidacy for president of the United States

"So yes, he did use that exact phrase. After the, shall we say, unsanitary reaction it got on social media, he might change his mind before ordering a bunch of new hats and T-shirts. Let's give him a week before he realizes what he said sounds more like 'baby babble' than 'really stable genius' and just goes back to MAGA."

It is a lot harder to say.

So he says he’s running. The hats’ll have to say MAGAGA — make America great and glorious again. If it makes you gag, get used to it.

-- Harvard Professor Tribe

"So until Trump himself defuses the situation, it's fair to use MAGAGA for the slogan for his 2024 run, because it's literally how he started it. MAGA will refer to his 2016 run and following tenure, the one that ended with record-setting unemployment and deaths."

Okay, works for me. It's unfortunate, turns out, Magaga is actually a common-enough real name that I found four people in one Google search. They're not going to be happy with this, I assume.

In a related story, DeSantis is now featured prominently on PolitiFact. While Trump is still showing up for lies, such as In the 2018 Florida governor's race "votes were being stolen by the corrupt election process in Broward. … I sent in the FBI and the U.S. Attorneys, and the ballot theft immediately ended. … I stopped his Election from being stolen." and Election results in Clark County, Nevada, and Arizona are not yet known because those places “want more time to cheat.” (both of those are Pants on Fire by the way), DeSantis is showing up with his campaign promises. Go ahead, go there, look at the right-hand side. One could argue they're tracking his governorship, but I don't think so. I think they're treating him like a Presidential candidate.

I'll be honest, I went to PolitiFact to find a run-down of the lies Trump told for an hour in his announcement. They didn't cover it. Ouch. How bad is Trump's PR that not even PolitiFact will show up to kick him when he's down? But, I have CNN points to spare, and kicking Trump when he's down brings them life, so...

Fact check: 20 false and misleading claims Trump made in his announcement speech

Though Trump has repeatedly boasted of supposedly having filled up the reserve, it actually contained fewer barrels of crude when he left office in early 2021 than when he took office in 2017. That’s not all because of him – the law requires some mandatory sales from the reserve for budget reasons, and Democrats in Congress blocked the funding needed to execute Trump’s 2020 directive to buy tens of millions more barrels and fill the reserve to its maximum capacity – but nonetheless, it didn’t get filled.

Trump claimed that unnamed people aren’t talking about the threat of nuclear weapons because they are obsessed with environmental issues, which he said, “they say may affect us in 300 years.” He added, “They say the ocean will rise 1/8 of an inch over the next 200 to 300 years. But don’t worry about nuclear weapons that can take out entire countries with one shot.”

Trump’s claims are false – even if you ignore the absurd contention that people aren’t paying attention to nuclear threats because they’re focused on the environment. Sea levels are expected to rise much faster than Trump said. The US government’s National Ocean Service said on its website that “sea level along the U.S. coastline is projected to rise, on average, 10 - 12 inches (0.25 - 0.30 meters) in the next 30 years (2020 - 2050), which will be as much as the rise measured over the last 100 years (1920 - 2020).”

“We were $1.87 a gallon for gasoline, and now it’s sitting five, six, seven and even eight dollars, and it’s gonna go really bad.”

The national average Tuesday is $3.759

Lamenting illegal immigration, Trump said, “I believe it’s 10 million people coming in, not three or four million people. They’re pouring into our country.”

Mark Morgan, who served as acting commissioner of Customs and Border Protection under Trump (and head of the Border Patrol under Obama), told The Arizona Republic in an early-November article that the “worst case scenario” for the number of illegal border crossings under Biden through October “could be 6.2 million.” Trump’s estimate was not close even to that estimate.

Trump had been running for under an hour and already told over 20 objective lies (some of the list of 20 have multiple lies in the same sentence). In his announcement speech, Trump claims he built the border Wall. That's not just insultingly false, that's "even Trump supporters will admit it's false" false.

[Edge-]

"MAGAGA".

So this actually came up on an work call and I didn't think it was real...holy shit.

Just speedrunning straight towards the infantilism and making the poo baby diaper jokes all the easier.

SNL really needs to send Trump a thank you note for making the sketches so fucking easy to write. He's losing his touch at the only thing he was moderately successful at: Branding.

[Breccia]

He's losing his touch at the only thing he was moderately successful at: Branding.

Hey, it's not too late to get ahead of the 2028 slogan: MAGAGAGA.

I think I have a video of that somewhere...



Shit. Eh, close enough.

[Zan15]

https://twitter.com/LeglGhostwriter/...08862189088769



Florida Man's announcement of his presidential campaign was on page 26 in the NY Post...and it is not kind. rofl.

crazy how the NY Post went all non political right after election day on their covers and first few main pages.

almost like they are embarrassed by another year of failures

[Edge-]

crazy how the NY Post went all non political right after election day on their covers and first few main pages.

almost like they are embarrassed by another year of failures

Didn't they have the Trump as Humpty Dumpty on the wall a day or two after the election?

[Poopymonster]

The "execute drug dealers in one day" is classic. For most simple minds out there they will eat this shit up. This is the classic of the guy at the end of the bar thinking he has the solution to everything with simple answers. Drug problem? You just kill all the drug dealers. The Trumpers will devour this and sadly anyone who got scared up by the crime narrative.

Of course besides dry humping your gun on the 2nd Amendment, our biggest right(s) were due process in a court of law. Yes, flawed but was important. Now, we know what most Trumpers have in their mind think what a drug dealer looks like. Do we need a dog whistle here?

Plus, as always the Drug Companies got away with the largest drug crises in past 10 or so years. Will we execute CEO"s, doctors, pharmaceutical businesses? Well again the person at the bar would say "Hell yes!". You think any of these people will be touched?

Those people also believe that being a drug dealer means you're also black or brown. So they're all "Fuck yeah, 2 for 1 motherfuckers! MAGA!"

[Edge-]

Those people also believe that being a drug dealer means you're also black or brown. So they're all "Fuck yeah, 2 for 1 motherfuckers! MAGA!"

That moment when the very upper class suburban highschool I went to (almost exclusively white folk, many of whom wore FuBu to school on a daily basis) arguably has more per-capita drug dealers than you'd find in any "urban school" to use the sanitized phrase.

I'm not even fuckin kidding, the number of kids I went to school who would deal weed on the side at least was astronomical, including some that did some fairly large volumes. I never got deep into the harder shit (zero interest in that shit or the crowd/scene), but it was trivial to get access to most other higher end drugs (no crack cocaine, but powder was very accessible).

I still laugh about that time there was a heated town meeting over turning a defunct building that was to be demolished but was still totally usable into a temporary homeless shelter for families during the winter. Not like, rando's off the street, but people who had jobs and kids and just couldn't afford to live anywhere. The number of folks who apparently got up to angrily assert that if this was allowed (sadly it wasn't) that all like 12 street corners would be packed with drug dealers and prostitutes was hilarious.

Bruv, your grandkid is absolutely slinging weed at the minimum already. Prostitution ain't happenin though, because kids are just going to parties and having some sketchy sex for free. They're horny teenagers with access to alcohol, drugs, and tons of large empty homes in which to throw parties in. The fuck y'all think is happening?

[Poopymonster]

Hey, it's not too late to get ahead of the 2028 slogan: MAGAGAGA.

I think I have a video of that somewhere...



Shit. Eh, close enough.

Would Melania be Lady Magaga?
Would she rah, rah-ah-ah-ah
Roma, roma-ma
Maga for her Oompa Loompa?

Sounds like a bad romance to me.

[diller]

Didn't they have the Trump as Humpty Dumpty on the wall a day or two after the election?

Rupert Murdoch has said he didn't want Trump as the republican candidate which is why his media will not support him from now on.

Guess we'll see a lot of anti-Trump stuff from places like Fox news from now on.