Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Cthulhu 2020]

People have already taken to ebay and are selling thumb drives containing a .jpg file of a Trump trading card NFT for $99, and one buyer has 20 sold already.

The grift is real. Fools and their money are soon parted.

[Rustedsaint]

Well I mean good on the nft sellers, ripping off trump fanbois is always funny.
Stupid people give money for worthless things all the time, member that kickstarter for potato sald that made the guy $55k?

[Breccia]

I don't know how to feel about a guy who just made 4 million dollars in a day by selling NFTs to his followers.

Yeah, Trump was able to sell his dignity for $4.5 million minus the disposal fee.

Trump isn't making appearances in public, he isn't holding rallies, he isn't releasing his finances and he's effecitvely begging on the street corner for cash. There's a lot of evidence that Trump is, well...broke. I keep saying Trump needs to run in 2024 in the desperate hope it blocks the consequences of all that stuff he did. I'm standing by that. But this feels like he's also trying to fleece as many people as possible on his way to losing the Republican Primary and losing 2024.

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Former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner, who is admittedly biased, not only said that Trump could get 25 years, but also that the Mar-a-Lago case could be decided in an hour. He did say the second one was a little bit of hyperbole, so I won't quote that one, but the first?

"The Department of Justice prides itself on exercising independent prosecutorial discretion but they can't turn a blind eye to a coequal branch of government that has done such an exhaustive investigation when they pass all of that evidence over to [the] DOJ and they recommend criminal investigations and prosecutions," he said.

"It is great that they're talking about obstructing official proceedings, that's a 20-year offense. It's great that they are talking about conspiracy to commit offenses against the United States, that's a 5-year offense," Kirschner said Friday.

And that's handwaving insurrection. Obstruction of justice is a big deal.

Naturally, Trump responded with the same carefully chosen, well-crafted words th--

THEY ARE GOING AFTER ME BECAUSE THEY ARE REALLY GOING AFTER YOU!

[Kaleredar]

Well I mean good on the nft sellers, ripping off trump fanbois is always funny.
Stupid people give money for worthless things all the time, member that kickstarter for potato sald that made the guy $55k?

The difference is that the people that paid for that guy to make potato salad probably only did so a dollar at a time.

These trump morons, on the other hand, paid hundreds of dollars for their worthless pixels.

[Huehuecoyotl]

These trump morons, on the other hand, paid hundreds of dollars for their worthless pixels.

Link to a place that contains pixels. $99 doesn't get you the actual pixels.

[Kaleredar]

Link to a place that contains pixels. $99 doesn't get you the actual pixels.

True enough. Paid hundreds of dollars for something that says you own the right to look at pixels.

[Breccia]

Once again, it's time for Guess the Speaker!

I’m back!! Thank you elonmusk and by the way MELT DOWN THE ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES AND TURN THEM INTO PRISON BARS!

"Clearly yet another Party of Trump member, expressing their mainstream belief that there was election fraud."

Mike Lindell, correct.

Greatest Tweet EVER! Welcome back! We missed you.

-- Kari Lake, in a direct reply that drew thousands of likes because Kari Lake is also mainstream Party of Trump

[Gorsameth]

True enough. Paid hundreds of dollars for something that says you own the right to look at pixels.

No, you have no right to look at the pixels. Because you have no control over where the pixels are located.

[s_bushido]

THEY ARE GOING AFTER ME BECAUSE THEY ARE REALLY GOING AFTER YOU!

I can't stand that shit. And conservative politicians/propagandists use that line constantly. It's part of their lethal allergy to taking responsibility, but it's just so frustrating that their audience/constituents can't see through it.

[Kaleredar]

I can't stand that shit. And conservative politicians/propagandists use that line constantly. It's part of their lethal allergy to taking responsibility, but it's just so frustrating that their audience/constituents can't see through it.

That’s actually probably the (maliciously) smartest thing trump has said in a while.

Remember, the gop lives off of fear. They need their people to feel afraid. Of gay people, of minorities, of people going to take your guns, of immigrants, of “corporations taking away your first amendment.”

Trying to make Trump’s legal troubles into “the plight of the common man” is a dangerously shrewd move. Hopefully it’s just another spasmodic blurb in his string of nonsense, and not something he actually tries to capitalize on.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Rumor is that Trump is going to be investigated for financial fraud over his NFTs. No source other than random Twitter noise from people who generally don't bullshit on this kind of stuff.

[Kaleredar]

Rumor is that Trump is going to be investigated for financial fraud over his NFTs. No source other than random Twitter noise from people who generally don't bullshit on this kind of stuff.

That’s gotta be some sort of record for trump in terms of “initiation of grift to legal action” if true.

[postman1782]

Rumor is that Trump is going to be investigated for financial fraud over his NFTs. No source other than random Twitter noise from people who generally don't bullshit on this kind of stuff.

Literally every image is stolen from some random creators or Shutterstock images, with Trump's ugly ass face plastered on them.

[Breccia]

Rumor is that Trump is going to be investigated for financial fraud over his NFTs.

I hope that's true, but I'm betting even if it is, no charges will be filed. Trump isn't selling them himself, he's got a third party doing it, and you'd think anyone doing business with Trump would triple-check the paperwork.

[gondrin]

Rumor is that Trump is going to be investigated for financial fraud over his NFTs. No source other than random Twitter noise from people who generally don't bullshit on this kind of stuff.

Oh, better yet, someone actively found out that he "minted" around 26% of the rarest ones to himself. As I stated it earlier in the thread, it wouldn't have surprised me if he was the one that bought them to create demand.

Granted, this is from twitter.

https://twitter.com/NFTherder/status...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

One good thing about blockchain is that everything on there can be traced.

[postman1782]

Oh, better yet, someone actively found out that he "minted" around 26% of the rarest ones to himself. As I stated it earlier in the thread, it wouldn't have surprised me if he was the one that bought them to create demand.

Granted, this is from twitter.

https://twitter.com/NFTherder/status...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

One good thing about blockchain is that everything on there can be traced.

Why am I not surprised that almost all of the 1/1 cards, went directly to him?

[Breccia]

So with th--

Republicans and Patriots all over the land must stand strong and united against the Thugs and Scoundrels of the Unselect Committee. It will be a dark period in American history, but with darkness comes light!!!

Okay, Trump has gone mad. He just quoted the World of Warcraft movie.

So at this point, we know where this is going. Everyone from Watergate lawyer John Dean to Trump's own lawyer Ty Cobb are predicting charges filed against Trump personally. Obviously the Jan 6th panel can't do that directly but they can say "we have all this evidence, we're giving it to the DoJ, and we think there's enough to warrant charges". And that's not even including the theft of classified materials, dodging taxes, lying on his fiscal disclosure forms (how the fuck do you forget you owe money to North Korea?) or anything Trump Org related.

Now, the DoJ may or may not actually pursue those charges. From a purely tactical perspective, it would make sense to let Trump do as much damage to the Republican Party as possible, such as by winning the primary or splitting the vote. Then arrest him. But that's playing politics and the DoJ doesn't do that -- even Barr drew the line. If the evidence really is as solid as we've seen, then the DoJ won't wait till mid-2024 to drag Trump off in tiny tiny handcuffs.

So the question seems less "if" but "which". There seems to be a pretty substantial list of things Trump is objectively guilty of. I don't believe the DoJ will flat-out charge him with insurrection or treason. To me, the question is obstruction. Obstruction charges are no laughing matter. They are a "die in prison" level of offense. And you don't have to obstruct charges as deplorable and unAmerican as treason. You can obstruct by refusing to turn over your texts.

Trump, in the tirade I quoted above, suggested

These two very important tweets have been uncovered now that my account, which was shut down by the FBI, has been reinstated!

One, Trump thinks people forgot or didn't write down what he tweeted. The internet never forgets.

Second, Trump thinks the Jan 6th committee didn't see what he tweeted. That's just stupid.

And third, Trump thinks his public tweets will somehow be evidence that helps him. That's not what he tried to block, claiming privilege. The evidence is his private communications.

For someone both online and in court this often, Trump seems to have zero idea how either of them work.

[Kathranis]

A lot of (former) MAGAs are PISSED at the Trump NFTs. I hope they stay home on Nov 9 2024 but the reality is they'll probably just vote DeSantis or whoever is the general election candidate.

Most of the diehard Trump fans aren't interesting in politics if Trump's not on the ballot. Bunch of the Jan 6 crowd had literally never voted in an election before 2020, not even the first time Trump ran in 2016.

[jonnysensible]

who watcchin this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5olnF549kNE

[Ivanstone]

Most of the diehard Trump fans aren't interesting in politics if Trump's not on the ballot. Bunch of the Jan 6 crowd had literally never voted in an election before 2020, not even the first time Trump ran in 2016.

Trump’s numbers were not much different from Romney’s. The deplorables voted for Romney. They just weren’t as loud about it.

They’ll still show up for whatever shithead the GOP puts out in 2024.