Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Breccia]

Yep, Cohen testified about 20 times.

I have every faith that most lawyers keep records. I have more faith than normal that Cohen, knowing who Trump was (even if he was still working for him on purpose), made and kept more records than usual.

Yeah, I have to admit, at some point Team Trump is going to question Cohen's trustworthiness and man do I wish I was the judge for just that one issue. The idea of Trump saying "you cannot trust the word of the lawyer I used for decades, he admitted he lied and committed crimes on my behalf" is just too much and needs to be strangled to death in its own irony. But if I'm right and Cohen has records that back his side of the story, and Trump doesn't, it's an attempt that won't get past the judge. Might work on the jury, tho.

[D Luniz]

Hard disagree.

I think it makes a lot of sense and everyone should be saying it. Republicans are not. What's strange isn't that Barr said it, it's that no other Republican is.

No, remember, Barr is a side lined republican, hell, if not for Trump, he knows his time in gov was effectively over decades ago
He's in the "I don't want my headstone replaced with a toilet" phase of his political career (see one Chris Christe or GW Bush)
So ya, he's say sane things that appeal to the "independents"(ashamed republicans) because he doesn't need the GOP base for anything, cause he has private security.

[Breccia]

Well, let's check in on social media.

I love my father, and I love my country. Today, I am pained for both.

I appreciate the voices across the political spectrum expressing support and concern.

-- Ivanka Trump

"What else did she say?"

Nothing, near as I can tell.

"She didn't call this a WITCH HUNT?"

No.

"She didn't say her father was innocent?"

No.

"...when you were a kid, did your parents every force you to write thank-you cards for gifts you didn't like?"

Enough about that, next quote:

RADICAL LEFT, SOROS BACKED, DISTRICT ATTORNEY -- ALVIN BRAGG

-- Donald Trump

"Oh, so Trump found evidence Soros backed Bragg?"

No.

"Did Trump post that before or after Soros specifically and personally refuted the claim?"

After.

Not quite the same thing, but Haberman went on CNN and revealed that a long list of people with Trump's bus tire marks on their backs texted her.

Host Kaitlan Collins asked Haberman if there were people within the Trump Organization that were "quietly cheering" amid news of the indictment.

"By quietly, I'm sure they were loudly on their end of the phone, but were texting me," Haberman said. "And there was a long trail of people who feel burned in one way or another by Donald Trump. We certainly saw that in the White House. This was a pattern that existed for decades before the Trump Organization."

"The number of people I heard from yesterday who worked for his company, who were really happy. One person texted with the words 'wonderful news!'" she revealed. "That really tells you something about where these folks' heads are."

WHERE'S HUNTER?

-- Trump, 2:46AM

"Trump does know that the investigation into Hunter Biden started in 2018, when he was in charge, right?"

Probably not, no. Trump's awareness drops off pretty quickly once it leaves Trump.

Speaking of CyberTrump 2077, a Slate journalist wrote a lengthy article with the headline "What You’ll Find on Truth Social, Where Trump Is Going Nuclear"

It's a worthwhile read, in a "I drove past a ten-car pileup on fire" kind of way. I'll add one paragraph only but I do recommend the whole thing:

It’s not just precious metals that are funding this enterprise, mind you. There are also ads for a sketchy-looking website called Online Shopping Tools, which apparently “Amazon Hates,” even though “They Can’t Stop You.” Anyway, you ever heard of Natasha Owens? I had not, before I came across a “Sponsored Truth” from her account asking for fans to download her song “Trump Won” before it gets “removed.” Considering her song only has about 61,000 streams on Spotify even with the Truth boost, I would assume streaming services aren’t too concerned about its dangerous reach.

But seriously, this place has so many gold and silver ads.

"Doesn't that mean Hannity is technically being paid by Trump? Won't this come up in the Dominion lawsuit?"

I hope so, yes.

And my favorite:

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-- Melania Trump

What's Melania been up to? Sources vary on her attitude, but she is seen in public...not heard, good lord no, Trump didn't have an affair with her for her independent thought. Reports still say she's living in a different part of the house and isn't planning on attending the indictment. Other than that, people are going by the context of her lack of public statements, and it's anything from "hoping it will all blow her husband for $130,000 blow over" to "divorce lawyers, stand back and stand by".

I will continue to say that the one thing, at this point, that will make the Republican Party actually evict Trump like he was black is--

"Are you accusing the Republican Party of being racist, or commenting on Trump's proven history of being a racist landlord?"

I mean, mostly the second. Anyhow, the one thing that would make the Republican Party evict Trump like an aging first and/or second wife would be proof Melania had an abortion. But Trump going through a divorce during the campaign would be way up there on the list. I don't know what new prenup Melania signed, and I have even less respect for her than both the porn star and my own Representatives that I call "whore" several times a day, but she is still human, and does have a limit. Trump fucking Stormy Daniels while Melania nursed their mutual son is something she's proven she's willing to be paid to accept. Trump going to jail would be new, but we're a ways off from that. But everyone knows Trump cheated on her, what we don't have is Trump admitting it under oath. Or, far more realistic, Trump being asked and refusing to answer. Only guilty people take the Fifth, remember?

Melania could be the most powerful person in the Party of Trump right now, because she, and she alone, can end it in 24 hours if she wants to. This is a hypothetical, but I firmly believe that, the very day Melania calls a press conference to announce "Trump cheated on me and I'm filing for divorce" is a day everyone in the Republican Party, including FOX News, actually sees it as a starter's pistol to finally back away from the deplorable who cost them three elections and made Mitch McConnell a minority.

Hmm. A single by itself low-key event that could lead to a chain reaction ending Donald Trump's future. If only that was a parallel to something else we're all talking about.

[Gorsameth]

I mean, mostly the second. Anyhow, the one thing that would make the Republican Party evict Trump like an aging first and/or second wife would be proof Melania had an abortion. But Trump going through a divorce during the campaign would be way up there on the list. I don't know what new prenup Melania signed, and I have even less respect for her than both the porn star and my own Representatives that I call "whore" several times a day, but she is still human, and does have a limit. Trump fucking Stormy Daniels while Melania nursed their mutual son is something she's proven she's willing to be paid to accept. Trump going to jail would be new, but we're a ways off from that. But everyone knows Trump cheated on her, what we don't have is Trump admitting it under oath. Or, far more realistic, Trump being asked and refusing to answer. Only guilty people take the Fifth, remember?

Melania could be the most powerful person in the Party of Trump right now, because she, and she alone, can end it in 24 hours if she wants to. This is a hypothetical, but I firmly believe that, the very day Melania calls a press conference to announce "Trump cheated on me and I'm filing for divorce" is a day everyone in the Republican Party, including FOX News, actually sees it as a starter's pistol to finally back away from the deplorable who cost them three elections and made Mitch McConnell a minority.

Hmm. A single by itself low-key event that could lead to a chain reaction ending Donald Trump's future. If only that was a parallel to something else we're all talking about.

Considering Melania hasn't divorced yet I just assume she won't get a cent if she initiates a divorce for any reason and is just waiting for him to die.

[Breccia]

Considering Melania hasn't divorced yet I just assume she won't get a cent if she initiates a divorce for any reason and is just waiting for him to die.

I mean, I'd contradict that if I could. It's almost certain very very very favorable to Trump. But it's forseeable that
(a) at some point it's still worth it, and/or
(b) leaving with nothing could be better than waiting and leaving with less than nothing.

If the rumors about Ivanka, Kushner, and Melania's behind-the-scenes disgust are true, she could potentlally leave and be supported by Kushner.

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Jeb Bush questions Trump indictment, says jury should be ‘the voters’

"Wait, voters can send someone to jail?"

Of course not.

"Then what is he saying?"

He is saying "Hey Trump cultists, I am sucking up to you. Vote for me."

[Edge-]

Jeb Bush questions Trump indictment, says jury should be ‘the voters’

"Wait, voters can send someone to jail?"

Of course not.

"Then what is he saying?"

He is saying "Hey Trump cultists, I am sucking up to you. Vote for me."

Wait, has anyone asked Ja Rule for his take on this?

I mean if we're getting Jeb's take then I think it's only fair we get Ja's take.

What a party of absolute fuckin clowns.

[Nastard]

I don't know the answer to this question because, frankly, it hasn't ever really come up before. Does Melania lose her security detail if she divorces Trump? If so, she may feel like she needs to remain with him for her own safety. There are definitely some crazies out there who'd blame her for rightfully ditching him. Maybe she figures it's smarter in the long run to wait a couple years for him to keel over on the toilet, but then again Russian mail-order brides are not exactly known for their intellect.

If divorce is the outcome, I still don't see many in the Republican party abandoning Trump who haven't already done so. If you're still in after "non-consensual pussy grabbing blackmailing insurrection leading reason for thousands of covid deaths" you're in for life. Sure, there'd be some headshaking from the cult at first, but all it would take is a single statement from Trump saying, "She didn't leave me, I left her because she told me she hates America!" and all will be forgiven.

[Cthulhu 2020]

I don't know the answer to this question because, frankly, it hasn't ever really come up before. Does Melania lose her security detail if she divorces Trump? If so, she may feel like she needs to remain with him for her own safety. There are definitely some crazies out there who'd blame her for rightfully ditching him. Maybe she figures it's smarter in the long run to wait a couple years for him to keel over on the toilet, but then again Russian mail-order brides are not exactly known for their intellect.

If divorce is the outcome, I still don't see many in the Republican party abandoning Trump who haven't already done so. If you're still in after "non-consensual pussy grabbing blackmailing insurrection leading reason for thousands of covid deaths" you're in for life. Sure, there'd be some headshaking from the cult at first, but all it would take is a single statement from Trump saying, "She didn't leave me, I left her because she told me she hates America!" and all will be forgiven.

I don't ever see Melania divorcing, ever. She'll stay married. She'll likely live separately from him, though that's likely been going on for a long time now anyway.

[Nastard]

I don't ever see Melania divorcing, ever. She'll stay married. She'll likely live separately from him, though that's likely been going on for a long time now anyway.

I think that's likely, yeah. Since she was once the "other woman" she knew what she was getting herself into. Trophy wives never have any real attachment to their husband. Political appearance wives the same. Combine the two and the only reason she remains is that she doesn't want to move in next to Ivana on the golf course.

[NineSpine]

Don't go too far with this logic. Don't forget where my whore of a Rep. Elise Stefanik is.

Come down to Albany. We are saner here.

[SoulForge]

I mean, I'd contradict that if I could. It's almost certain very very very favorable to Trump. But it's forseeable that
(a) at some point it's still worth it, and/or
(b) leaving with nothing could be better than waiting and leaving with less than nothing.

If the rumors about Ivanka, Kushner, and Melania's behind-the-scenes disgust are true, she could potentlally leave and be supported by Kushner.

- - - Updated - - -

Jeb Bush questions Trump indictment, says jury should be ‘the voters’

"Wait, voters can send someone to jail?"

Of course not.

"Then what is he saying?"

He is saying "Hey Trump cultists, I am sucking up to you. Vote for me."

Any republican who says anything remotely like this can just go away. I wanted to say something much harsher here.

After that bullshit they pulled rushing a Supreme Court nominee through TWICE after saying the voters should decide. Zero credibility 'Letting voters decide'.

It should be more accurately stated as "Let the voters decide unless they don't side with us then we will do it anyway because fuck em".

[Benggaul]

It should be more accurately stated as "Let the voters decide unless they don't side with us then we will do it anyway because fuck em".

Pretty much this, as can be seen by the anti-abortion bills being voted down by the populace of Red States but the legislature still trying to push measures through anyway.

[Jastall]

Pretty much this, as can be seen by the anti-abortion bills being voted down by the populace of Red States but the legislature still trying to push measures through anyway.

Or "let the voters decide, unless our guy loses then it's a sham fake election and it's OK if some of us assault Congress over it".

[DarkTZeratul]

It should be more accurately stated as "Let the voters decide unless they don't side with us then we will do it anyway because fuck em".

"If it's something you want to do, we should let the voters decide that you shouldn't do it. If it's something we want to do, the voters already elected us and therefore clearly want us to do it."

[Breccia]

Come down to Albany. We are saner here.

My boss's boss's bosses are in Albany. I'm safer here.

Zero credibility 'Letting voters decide'.

Pretty much this, as can be seen by the anti-abortion bills being voted down by the populace of Red States but the legislature still trying to push measures through anyway.

Or "let the voters decide, unless our guy loses then it's a sham fake election and it's OK if some of us assault Congress over it".

"If it's something you want to do, we should let the voters decide that you shouldn't do it. If it's something we want to do, the voters already elected us and therefore clearly want us to do it."

Indeed, all of the above, thank you!

By the way, if we are playing "let the voters decide" then they should shut up about Hunter Biden. Biden won, get over it.

[beanman12345]

Conservatives really are weak little bitches tho.

[Edge-]

Y'all, do alpha males cry and show emotion other than confidence and anger? I thought showing weak emotions like that was some betacuck shit? Are these all betacucks?

[Rasulis]

According to report from the New York Times, two different investigations are tying up the merger between Digital World Acquisition Corp. and Trump Media & Technology Group with $300 million at stake.

As the Times reports, "That deal has been waylaid by two intensifying federal investigations. One is focused on whether preliminary merger discussions between Digital World and Trump Media violated federal securities laws. The other investigation is looking at whether a group of early investors in Digital World — who were brought into the deal by [deal architect Patrick] Orlando — engaged in improper trading."

With a six-month deadline looming, there is concerns by executives from both companies that two federal investigations won't wrap up in time and they will have to refund the money dumped into the company's early investors.

My heart breaks for them.

[Breccia]

"The other investigation is looking at whether a group of early investors in Digital World — who were brought into the deal by [deal architect Patrick] Orlando — engaged in improper trading."

That...is news to me. We all knew about the first one, but this sounds like insider trading?

[SoulForge]

That...is news to me. We all knew about the first one, but this sounds like insider trading?

It would be shocking to no one. "Do as I say not as I do"