Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[AntiFascistVoter]

Eyyyy the TV bobbleheads were jumping the gun, there's the other crimes...


BRAGG: “The indictment doesn’t specify which other crimes were committed because the law doesn’t require it. Here are the other crimes:
New York State election law (conspiracy)
False statements to tax authorities
Federal election law caps on contributions.”
Bragg would NOT say why the other crimes were not charged.

[Edge-]

Admittedly hiding the mugshot or not doing it because they know the trumpers will rally around it.

That was a request from the Trump team.

Where on earth are you getting your misinformation from?

[Edge-]

It's the Streisand effect for the mugshot photo. Either way it's free publicity.

Again, that's not why there was no mugshot according to reporting. You still don't seem to understand what the Streisand effect is because even if it was a choice that's not fuckin it, rofl.

You can't "bury" something that doesn't exist, and in the process make it more widely known than ever.

It's hearsay because the threats weren't made directly toward the lady from Georgia.

Moss, who is Black, said she received messages “wishing death upon me. Telling me that I’ll be in jail with my mother. And saying things like, ‘Be glad it’s 2020 and not 1920.’”

It helps if you read links before lying.

And the kicker to all that is if there were a credible threat, there would be charges and arrests.

"It's not illegal so it's fine" is irrelevant to pointing out, accurately, that the judges daughter would hardly be the first innocent victim that the right wing mob harassed online.

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I saw a quote from one of the shitty lefty mainstream channels of the guy saying that.

Sure Jan, sure you did.

[Breccia]

Complete hearsay without evidence.

Edge- posted a link in which evidence was provided.

Moss, who is Black, said she received messages “wishing death upon me. Telling me that I’ll be in jail with my mother. And saying things like, ‘Be glad it’s 2020 and not 1920.’”

Testimony is evidence. Text messages are also evidence.

I don't think you read the link. Or, you don't know what evidence is.

By the way, Trump was still indicted today.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Democrats don't understand the Streisand effect.

Streisand effect is where a previously untapped audience is brought into knowledge about a certain figure through negative press. I'm pretty sure if someone doesn't already know about Trump, they've been living under a rock.

If Republicans think Trump being indicted (and eventually convicted) is going to get him elected in 2024, they're huffing copium hardcore. It's all cope seethe and mald. They're mad that fat orange Jesus is being held accountable and are looking to try and fire back with pathetic empty threats. They can cope seethe and mald all they want, a madman criminal running for president isn't going to galvanize his base any more than they already are, as Trump "hype" is pretty much at an all time low. Rallies have such pathetic attendance it's funny.

But we've also seen plenty of evidence that "People get more conservative as they age" is not only mostly BS, as there barely exists any shift at all from previous generations (Something like 5-10%), but millenials and Gen Z are actually shifting LEFT as they age. Combine that with the drastically increasing gun violence with kids growing up participating in bi-weekly active shooter drills, and Republicans are setting themselves up for massive failure in the next 20 years.



But anyway, has it been covered in this thread that

1. MTG and Don Jr have posted pictures of the judge's daughter on Twitter and Truth Social? Wonder if they can tack intimidation and incitement of violence onto this court case...

2. One of the charges against Trump is that he cut a check (once again from campaign funds) for $30k to a door man of Trump tower to squash a story that he fathered a child out of wedlock with a house keeper. Oh man, the Christians are going to TOTALLY be angry about this infidelity, I'm sure! Because they like totally aren't charlatans using Christianity as some kind of political persecution tool rather than actually following its teachings, right?

[Breccia]

I saw a quote from one of the shitty lefty mainstream channels of the guy saying that.

*ahem*

Citation needed

Please post constructively. If you're asking for evidence from others, provide such for yourself. You are a genuine poster, right?

By the way, Trump was still indicted today.

[beanman12345]

The more I've been thinking about this the last few days, the more I think, he won't just get a slap on the wrist for this one. Dude is gonna say some really stupid shit, It's a black man prosecuting him so one or many of his followers are gonna do some really stupid shit, and I mean really stupid shit specifically to someone involved in this case. I don't think the judge is gonna put with any of it either, and will come down hard in sentencing for it.

It'll be relative though, he'll be on home confinement, likely without even an ankle bracelet since SS, so in respect to anything else it'll be a slap on the wrist, but it won't be just a fine or whatever nonsense. And there really isn't anywhere for him to get off it, unlike Georgia where he could get pardoned or the federal charges where SCOTUS will prevent any real sentencing.

Either that, or he'll just die before they get to the end of this, because the next trial date is December ffs this is gonna take a long time.

[Breccia]

But anyway, has it been covered in this thread that

1. MTG and Don Jr have posted pictures of the judge's daughter on Twitter and Truth Social?

Yes, but it bears repeating.

2. One of the charges against Trump is that he cut a check (once again from campaign funds) for $30k to a door man of Trump tower to squash a story that he fathered a child out of wedlock with a house keeper. Oh man, the Christians are going to TOTALLY be angry about this infidelity, I'm sure! Because they like totally aren't charlatans using Christianity as some kind of political persecution tool rather than actually following its teachings, right?

I had reminded myself of the doorman thing the other day. I think the $30,000 shows how little traction that story had...but I didn't know he'd been paid at all. And y'all know I go mining for this stuff. Sometimes, under rocks, I find people who don't know who Trump is! I tell them, they say "wow, he sounds like a horrible person, he should be arrested".

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The more I've been thinking about this the last few days, the more I think, he won't just get a slap on the wrist for this one. Dude is gonna say some really stupid shit,

I know what you're going for, and yes, that's a valid risk. He might get next to nothing for fucking a whore and hiding the payments as a business expense, but Trump on the stand has been a moment so many people have been waiting for. And taking the Fifth isn't going to help much, considering there's objective documentation.

Oh, you meant mouth off about the judge or Bragg. Yeah, that's a risk too.

Me, I'm just waiting to see how unhinged his comments are tonight, because if this is what sets him on an ALL-CAPS rampage, I can't wait to see what happens when Smith, or Georgia move in to flank for a sneak attack bonus.

[Kaleredar]

The truly terrifying part is that if the charges don't stick he's 100% going to get elected again.

…like how he wasn’t elected in 2020?


“Sure trump was taken to trial for hush money payments to a prostitute he cheated on his wife with in addition to all the other reasons people didn’t vote for him in 2020 that remain true, but… boo hoo, Biden made hamburgers expensive!”

[Edge-]

Here's the only link I could find to the video. https://twitter.com/i/status/1641841173575639040

I don't use Twitter.

So I guess you do use Twitter, and your source is predictable as fuck and absolutely hilarious.

Imagine taking anyone associated with Turning Point USA seriously in the year of our lord 2023.

Also, watching that link it's a hilarious mischaracterization of the actual discussion.

Why is this all so fucking predictable.

Also, David Axelrod accurately predicted that Trump would put himself on Tshirts to sell rofl. Holy shit the fuckin self-own of these conservatives.

Also also, this fuckin video is from fuckin Friday, 4 days ago. Old as shit at this point.

[Edge-]

Idgaf about turning point. The video was CNN.

And? What's your characterization of it, completely separate from your source?

Also, why do conservatives always run away from their consistently terrible sources? Can't y'all find better sources?

[Breccia]

Here's the only link I could find to the video.

Watched every second, heard every word. The video did not say what you said it did. The video did not say what the Twitter user you somehow knew to look for said it did.

Trump had already started selling T-shirts with "his mug shot" on them for $47 hours before this video was taken.

By the way, Trump was still indicted today.

[Cthulhu 2020]

1) They'd have to prove intimidation. Just posting someones picture isn't evidence of that exactly. And as everything ive responded to on the last few pages it's hearsay. Unless you're directly tagging a person and threatening them, then it's not a crime. Unless the photo is evidence of a crime.

Playing stupid isn't always the best defense. After all the violence Republicans typically threaten on political rivals, ESPECIALLY in the Trump era, do you really th ink Don Jr and MTG posting the judge's daughter's face on Truth Social and Twitter is just innocent banter? Of course you don't, you're not THAT stupid. Most people aren't. I realize you'd choose to ignore the reality because you know the optics are fucking awful.

2) appeals to and from religion don't matter to anyone. There's no such thing as a good Christian, especially when you have thousands of different flavors all with various amounts of zealotry.

It's mostly facetious, I know that hardly anyone is a good Christian in this day and age. After all, providing for the poor, being kind to your neighbor, giving healthcare to the sick, etc. have all been thrown out the window in the modern right. The main point is to further illustrate that the modern Republican party is more of a cult with their own newly picked set of values and beliefs, with Trump as their cult's god king.

[fwc577]

Here's the only link I could find to the video. https://twitter.com/i/status/1641841173575639040

Lemme guess. You read the Tweet but didn't actually watch the video to see what it contains. This idiot is banking on you not actually watching the video but thinking that this is all some vast, leftist conspiracy that's just been exposed or some shit, lmao.

[s_bushido]

Also, David Axelrod accurately predicted that Trump would put himself on Tshirts to sell rofl. Holy shit the fuckin self-own of these conservatives.

No kidding. We're supposed to be outraged over this "Freudian slip" when the fucker literally did exactly what they said even without having the actual photo to use? Please.

[AntiFascistVoter]

LoL at the lawyer taking some very serious notes.

[Breccia]

I googled the quote and that's what came up.

That's...not the defense you think it is. And, again, useless. Trump was already selling T-shirts of "his mug shot" for $47 hours, so, the clip would be useless even if it was helpful.

By the way, Trump was still indicted today.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Lemme guess. You read the Tweet but didn't actually watch the video to see what it contains. This idiot is banking on you not actually watching the video but thinking that this is all some vast, leftist conspiracy that's just been exposed or some shit, lmao.

"Read the headlines, don't inspect the content" seems to be the MO for a lot of this forum's conservatives. A certain dang poster likes to post "sources" for his arguments that directly contradict his point because he only googles for headlines and fails to read the actual contents of the source. Seems to be common among the right.

[Edge-]

Wow indicted? Again? Wonder if they'll get anything to stick this time.

When was the last time? Do you have a link?

LoL at the lawyer taking some very serious notes.

Stealing from Reddit: I see four lawyers who don't yet know that they're doing pro-bono work in that picture.

[Breccia]

No kidding. We're supposed to be outraged over this "Freudian slip" when the fucker literally did exactly what they said even without having the actual photo to use?

Yeah, the Twitter poster's comments on the clip make no sense. Like Linkedblade, the clip does not show what he claims it does.

In 2019, New York passed a law blocking releasing mug shots to the public. No, this was not some 4D chess move done to hide Trump's mug shot taken four years later. There is no "hiding Trump's mug shot", it's just not a public record.

"But some have been leaked! The AP did a lengthy article on it!"

And that would be a problem. But if some have been "leaked" that implies it's wrong for that to happen. So, no, Trump's not getting special treatment. NY is following the book on this one.

Plus, you know, that whole "Trump selling T-shirts of his fake mug shot for $47" thing that defeats the entire narrative, even if that clip had been useful.

By the way, Trump was still indicted today.