Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[postman1782]

The truly terrifying part is that if the charges don't stick he's 100% going to get elected again.

No he won't. GenZ completely canceled out the boomer vote in 2022, and only more are going to be able to vote in 2024.

Plus they have Trump ON TAPE, committing the crime he is being accused of.

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Democrats don't understand the Streisand effect.

I can basically guarantee he won't be elected or get off these charges.

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And neither does the Manhattan DA.

Yes he does. He has multiple witnesses, AND a fucking recording of Trump committing the crimes.

[Corvus]

I know the chances of him actually getting jail time are not high, and even if he did, it would be the cushiest jail sentence sine Hitler, but can you imagine a sociopathic narcissist like Trump actually surviving jail? They'd probably have to stick him on suicide watch so he doesn't go down the route of his old friend Epstein.

[Edge-]

https://thehill.com/homenews/3932133...erage-hearing/

Merchan set the next court date for Dec. 4.

As mentioned, gonna be a while.

[Breccia]

Trump's unvictory speech at Mar-a-Lago was disappointing. Just the usual stuff, claiming that "everyone who has looked at this case says there is no crime and it should never have been brought", that everyone hates him, the world is laughing at the US, etc etc.

Interesting that it took six hours to attack the judge in a speech surely going on social media, after being told not to attack the judge on social media. By the judge.

[postman1782]

Trump's unvictory speech at Mar-a-Lago was disappointing. Just the usual stuff, claiming that "everyone who has looked at this case says there is no crime and it should never have been brought", that everyone hates him, the world is laughing at the US, etc etc.

Interesting that it took six hours to attack the judge in a speech surely going on social media, after being told not to attack the judge on social media. By the judge.

The only reason it wasn't brought sooner was that Barr stopped it. Which should be obstruction of justice charges against him.

[s_bushido]

everyone hates him, the world is laughing at the US

He's just confused. They weren't laughing at us, they were laughing at him.

[Breccia]

The only reason it wasn't brought sooner was that Barr stopped it. Which should be obstruction of justice charges against him.

We might be talking about different cases. Barr wasn't involved in New York.

[postman1782]

Trump's unvictory speech at Mar-a-Lago was disappointing. Just the usual stuff, claiming that "everyone who has looked at this case says there is no crime and it should never have been brought", that everyone hates him, the world is laughing at the US, etc etc.

Interesting that it took six hours to attack the judge in a speech surely going on social media, after being told not to attack the judge on social media. By the judge.

I hope he continues, and they revoke bail.

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We might be talking about different cases. Barr wasn't involved in New York.

With Vance he was before Bragg took over.

https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/...67796356943873

I am just going by what Cy Vance said, is that the SDNY district told him to stand down, who was being ordered to say it by Barr.

Also, Jeffrey Berman's book said that Barr came in and put a stop to it.

[Breccia]

With Vance he was before Bragg took over.

Ah, gotcha.

[Taifuu]

Going to say that this is Vance's fault as well. Even before Trump, Barr has had a long history of being a political hack. It's pretty fucking stupid to think that he all of a sudden would stop doing that for Trump. That tells me that Vance is either incompetent or, like the vast majority of our politicians and Justice department, won't start to actually take any of this shit seriously until its far too late and we have major violence across the country on our hands.

[Breccia]

Trump said, in his speech at Mar-a-Lago with a guest list of...

(checks sources)

his family, Lindell, Kari Lake and Greene, said Bragg:

Came out today everybody said this is not really an indictment. There’s nothing here.

Wow. Must have missed that during the court hearing where 34 charges were filed and he plead not guilty. This was, apparently, not really an indictment.

Yeah, that's beyond "hey Trump supporters explain that" territory. That's just flat-out lying. So, once again, time to answer for them.

Trump is lying, that really was an indictment. We are just not going to call him out for lying, because we're spineless cowards.

-- all Trump supporters who remain silent on the issue

[Veggie50]

I know the chances of him actually getting jail time are not high, and even if he did, it would be the cushiest jail sentence sine Hitler, but can you imagine a sociopathic narcissist like Trump actually surviving jail? They'd probably have to stick him on suicide watch so he doesn't go down the route of his old friend Epstein.

Cushiest jail sentence since Hitler?

Either we have studied a very different history lesson, or you mean Napoleon =P

[Masark]

Cushiest jail sentence since Hitler?

Either we have studied a very different history lesson, or you mean Napoleon =P

Your history lesson appears to have skipped the 1920s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_H...ial_and_prison

[Cthulhu 2020]

Cushiest jail sentence since Hitler?

Either we have studied a very different history lesson, or you mean Napoleon =P

I don't think it was pointed out in this forum, but at a certain point Democrats in the (national) house were calling out Republicans for visiting J6 protesters in prison to MAKE SURE THEIR TABLETS WERE WORKING and that they were comfy. If Trump goes to prison, it's going to be gold encrusted with an endless supply of McDonald's and full access to the internet. We treat conservative insurrectionists and traitors better than we do weed smokers.

[Veggie50]

Your history lesson appears to have skipped the 1920s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_H...ial_and_prison

Haha well I suppose that seems like a “cushy” sentence to American standards… those are still very medieval.

If you look at max security prisons in scandinavia you’ll find this is more or less the norm.

[draynay]

Haha well I suppose that seems like a “cushy” sentence to American standards… those are still very medieval.

If you look at max security prisons in scandinavia you’ll find this is more or less the norm.

It was the lightest imprisonment they had. Why can't people just be wrong and cut the bull shit? Why continue and expose even greater ignorance?

[Veggie50]

It was the lightest imprisonment they had. Why can't people just be wrong and cut the bull shit? Why continue and expose even greater ignorance?

Ah the ad hominem ^^

Hitlers sentencing wasn’t exactly harsh, but to take him as a historical example of easy time, is quite ridiculous.

Compare it to napoleon, who as a prison got an entire island with palace and staff.

[Lanrefni]

Ah the ad hominem ^^

Hitlers sentencing wasn’t exactly harsh, but to take him as a historical example of easy time, is quite ridiculous.

Compare it to napoleon, who as a prison got an entire island with palace and staff.

He did also get wallpaper held up with a glue that had cyanide in it that leeched into the air due to the heat and humidity of the island,so more a 2 star resort than a 5 star,essentially it was ye olde Mar A Lago.

[Cthulhu 2020]

As generic as Trump's speech was, anyone notice the big lie at the end, that Russia, China, Saudis, Iran, and North Korea have now all formed an alliance that only Trump could have stopped? I mean, not that it's surprising that he'd claim this, but still pretty funny that the Trump cult will continue to live in an alternative reality. North Korea is no more friendly to those others than it ever has been. Russia and the Saudis have always been in cahoots. And China remains cautious but opportunist of Russia's goings-on, always willing to turn a profit off their wars.

Ah yes, and the claim that the Ukraine war wouldn't have happened... not mentioning that he would have prevented the Ukraine war by letting Russia simply annex Ukraine without resistance at all. For as much as the Trump cult screams about the US being invaded by Mexico, that they're invading our sovereignty as a nation, the Trump cult certainly holds no respect for the sovereignty of other nations.

Or, maybe they're just very pro Russia because they know that Trump polishes Putin's rod.

[Breccia]

the Trump cult will continue to live in an alternative reality.

It's the only way their lack of grip on reality can survive: put it in a hypothetical where it cannot be challenged.

If I had been elected in 2020, I'd have raised the budget to $200 trillion while reducing taxes to $0 and balanced the budget. You can't prove otherwise.