Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Cthulhu 2020]

Oh man DeSantis is attacking Trump? Where are the Republicans on social media claiming that DeSantis has Trump Derangement Syndrome I wonder?!

[Flarelaine]

Republicans had nearly a decade to smear Hillary

Make it two. They have been mad at her ever since HillaryCare and of course she was as much implicated in Whitewater as Bill.

[fwc577]

Make it two. They have been mad at her ever since HillaryCare and of course she was as much implicated in Whitewater as Bill.

Huh? Try three. She was hated all the way back when she was an Arkansas Governor's Wife thrust into the spotlight because her husband was running for POTUS.

[Breccia]

The campaign against Hillary started with Benghazi...

They have been mad at her ever since HillaryCare and of course she was as much implicated in Whitewater as Bill.

She was hated all the way back when she was an Arkansas Governor's Wife thrust into the spotlight because her husband was running for POTUS.

I have to say, I am looking forward to the new and improved Republican Party's attitude towards opinionated, driven women now that Nikki Haley is running against Trump. I expect no bias against her for her gender in any way. Nope. Not even a little bit.

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Trump asks for the Carroll case to be delayed.

"Why?"

Because he was indicted for something else.

UPDATE: Judge says "no".

The judge, Lewis A. Kaplan of Federal District Court, said there was no justification for a postponement of the trial, noting that the news coverage was largely — though not entirely — “invited or provoked by Mr. Trump’s own actions.”

“It does not sit well for Mr. Trump to promote pretrial publicity and then to claim that coverage that he promoted was prejudicial to him and should be taken into account as supporting a further delay,” the judge wrote.

The judge also suggested that postponements in such circumstances can be a mixed blessing for a defendant “who is hoping for the dissipation of what he regards, or says he regards, as negative publicity.”

“Events happen during postponements. Sometimes they can make matters worse,” Judge Kaplan said.

In rejecting Mr. Trump’s request for a postponement, Judge Kaplan noted that the jury selection process for the trial would likely include an inquiry into prospective jurors’ “awareness, if any, of Mr. Trump’s various legal troubles — past, present and perhaps future — and jurors’ ability and willingness to render a fair and impartial verdict in this case.”

Bolded for "literally everyone called that". I think even Team Trump knew that would happen. This includes Trump's legal team, the House of Representatives.

The House GOP has not relented in their attacks on Bragg. Of course, "shouldn't Bragg be going after violent offenders?" is the mating cry of the cultists these days, and it's easy to rebuke.

1) He is. His office has multiple departments. Duh.

2) Shouldn't you be doing something about gun violence?

3) Bragg took office in 2022. Crime in Manhattan has gone down since.

[fwc577]

UPDATE: Judge says "no".

LOL. Love the attempt at that defense. Just commit so many crimes that you need to keep delaying all the trials indefinitely.

[Inuyaki]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2321172.html

Not even hiding the fascism anymore.

[gondrin]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2321172.html

Not even hiding the fascism anymore.

Comical part is if he took it, he would outright fail. Some of the stuff he complains about is perfectly constitutional.

[Fugus]

Comical part is if he took it, he would outright fail. Some of the stuff he complains about is perfectly constitutional.

Only if you think that is what he would actually be testing for. What he would be testing for is a loyalty test to him and would fire based on that.

[Ivanstone]

Huh? Try three. She was hated all the way back when she was an Arkansas Governor's Wife thrust into the spotlight because her husband was running for POTUS.

I think we'll need to bump it up to over four. She helped produce a template for impeachable offences during the Watergate hearings.

[Flarelaine]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2321172.html

Not even hiding the fascism anymore.

Having an exam on constitutional basics is itself fine. The problems begin when you can't trust it to be fair and impartial.

[Taifuu]

Having an exam on constitutional basics is itself fine. The problems begin when you can't trust it to be fair and impartial.

Let's have them enact this and force every politician to take the test and have it graded live. Any who fail are immediately forced to resign. Trump and at least 2/3rds of Republicans would be gone.

[Flarelaine]

Let's have them enact this and force every politician to take the test and have it graded live. Any who fail are immediately forced to resign. Trump and at least 2/3rds of Republicans would be gone.

The MAGA cult, probably. The oldschool ones like McConnell would ace it. Ratfucking a system truly well requires knowing it in and out.

[Endus]

Having an exam on constitutional basics is itself fine. The problems begin when you can't trust it to be fair and impartial.

You know it's not gonna be "impartial"; it's gonna have questions like "the 2020 election was unfairly stolen from Donald J. Trump, who should have been re-elected as President", and if you answer "False", you fail.

[Edge-]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/stop-t...or-sexual-pics

Stop the Steal organizer and good friend to Nazi Nick Fuentes, Ali Alexander, has apologized for sliding into the DM's of underage boys and soliciting sexual pictures.

No, he's not apologizing for the whole "gross creeper pedophile" aspect, just that he's ashamed he's gay and he's very sorry for that, apparently. Which is causing some issues for his good friend Nazi Nick Fuentes because the two are good friends and Fuentes very reasonable followers think he ignored warnings.

Boy, sure are a lot of sex pests and pedophiles within Trump and the MAGA cult orbit. Sure are a lot...

[Breccia]

he's ashamed he's gay and he's very sorry for that, apparently.

Oh goodie, another Republican mixing up "pedophile" and "homosexual".

By the way, from now on, if anyone claims drag shows are about grooming kids, I think we should bring this confession up and ask if Stop the Steal is also about grooming kids. It's not, that's bullshit, but it would be fun to see them twist while trying to legitimize both arguments at the same time.

On topic: things are not looking good for Trump in court.

(take a shot)

1) That issue with Tapioca meeting with Daniels? The DA has asked the judge to consider that as a conflict of interest. Tapioca could be thrown off the case.

We already knew about the issue, it's just now being officially raised in court.

2) Hey, remember waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in 2018 when Cohen went through court?

At issue are the payments to two women who alleged sexual relationships with Trump before his running for president. In August 2016, Playboy model Karen McDougal reached an agreement with American Media Inc., publishers of the National Enquirer, that ensured she wouldn’t share her story about a lengthy relationship she’d engaged in with Trump. In October of that year, adult film actress Stormy Daniels received $130,000 to similarly stay quiet about a liaison that had occurred a decade before.

Both of those agreements were facilitated by Cohen, as he admitted in court in August. Since Cohen was an agent of the Trump campaign — Cohen was a public surrogate on its behalf and, the Friday filing notes, had a campaign email address — neither payment could be considered an expenditure independent of the campaign but were, instead, campaign contributions in excess of federal limits. That one payment came from AMI meant that Cohen had solicited an illegal corporate contribution as well. Cohen pleaded guilty to two campaign-finance-related charges in August, saying in court that he’d undertaken the actions at Trump’s behest.

Cohen making that claim in court is one thing. The government making the same allegation in a court filing is another. And on Friday, the government made that allegation.

“With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election,” the filing reads. “Cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1.”

Ah, good times...good times...

Anyhow, we all know Trump is suing Cohen for $74,000 in restitution and $500 million in damage to his good name. Yes, it took me three tries to type that without dry-heaving.

But um...so, does anyone know the name Alejandro Brito? In this context, I mean?

"...no?"

He's been working with Trump a while now, but this is his first big profile work. Everything else I could find with his name on it from 2020 was archived, but in any event, he's...okay, you know how Trump is having trouble finding good lawyers?

"Uh oh."

Yeah. Brito, in bringing this case, specifically cited the SDNY sentencing, which refers to Cohen as a serial liar and untrustworthy. Seems good on paper...except...

With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election...as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1

Trump's own lawyer, put this exact line, into evidence. In his own lawsuit.

And this is where I tag @cubby just so he either explain how I'm misreading this, or so he can stare slack-jawed in awe at how colossally stupid Trump's legal team is.

Because that was a legal filing, under oath, that Trump directed Cohen to pay off the whore, as an election issue.

Have you ever seen a sports game where the MVP of the winning team was a player from the losing team? Like, a QB who threw two interceptions for touchdowns when they lose 10-14? I think we've just seen that here.

[beanman12345]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/stop-t...or-sexual-pics

Stop the Steal organizer and good friend to Nazi Nick Fuentes, Ali Alexander, has apologized for sliding into the DM's of underage boys and soliciting sexual pictures.

No, he's not apologizing for the whole "gross creeper pedophile" aspect, just that he's ashamed he's gay and he's very sorry for that, apparently. Which is causing some issues for his good friend Nazi Nick Fuentes because the two are good friends and Fuentes very reasonable followers think he ignored warnings.

Boy, sure are a lot of sex pests and pedophiles within Trump and the MAGA cult orbit. Sure are a lot...

My first thought was Nick joined Ali in his quest. I mean this is the guy who said dating women was gay.

[cubby]

With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election...as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1

Trump's own lawyer, put this exact line, into evidence. In his own lawsuit.

And this is where I tag @cubby just so he either explain how I'm misreading this, or so he can stare slack-jawed in awe at how colossally stupid Trump's legal team is.

Because that was a legal filing, under oath, that Trump directed Cohen to pay off the whore, as an election issue.

Have you ever seen a sports game where the MVP of the winning team was a player from the losing team? Like, a QB who threw two interceptions for touchdowns when they lose 10-14? I think we've just seen that here.

I don't think you're misreading this - Cohen did that on purpose for a couple of reasons. Trump's legal team is inherently colossally stupid because Trump is inherently uncontrollable, and will do whatever he wants, up to avoiding being sworn in on the stand (that's another conversation).

Cohen put that into his lawsuit and attested to it's truthfulness because it will put that piece into evidence once it's used in court. And that evidence, such as it is, can be used in other court cases (civil and criminal) even if Cohen isn't around or available to testify - it is one of the exceptions to the hearsay rule.

[Breccia]

Cohen did that on purpose for a couple of reasons. Trump's legal team is inherently colossally stupid

Man, what does it say about Team Trump that their team got more incompetent, once Cohen left it? Cohen, the guy who got caught making the whore payment and Trump didn't pardon him? Man, turning on your best lawyer for decades seems like just a stupid, stupid move.

[Edge-]

Not a single thing here surprises me. Not the fact Trump came back to IG, not the fact it was to sell shit, not the fact the NFT is the laziest thing I've ever seen... not a thing.

LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THOSE HANDS THOUGH

You know what they say about a man with big hands, eh? That sometimes that effect is accomplished in images with a mixture of camera angels and selective editing of the image to make their hands appear bigger than they are in reality.

He should probably get screened for cancer, they seem bigger than his face! Everything about him seems weirdly proportioned in that image, almost like it was made by a spring intern or something.

[Myradin]

Probably AI generated