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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I probably should have been more specific. Pretend I used the word "intentionally".

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    Your opinion on Trump being found liable for sexual assault is now demanded.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2338356.html

    FBI Raids Russian apartment in Trump Tower. Could be in connection to the Jack Smith documents investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Could be in connection to the Jack Smith documents investigation.
    Probably coincidence. The FBI might have been looking for the Chinese national bank, also in Trump Tower. Or, and I admit this one is a long shot, the Saudis on the 45th floor of Trump Tower. But that's the Saudi government, and the CIA would probably have been involved.

    Wait, what was the problem about Hunter Biden taking foreign money, again?

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    The GOP rift continues to widen. DeSantis and Trump were both in Iowa today with scheduled events.

    DeSantis won the coin toss and went first.

    There’s no substitute for victory. We must reject the culture of losing that has infected our party in recent years.
    Not a bad tagline. "The Culture of Losing". I wonder what our resident Trump supporters think about that.

    Trump went second.

    Unfortunately, due to the Tornado Warnings in Des Moines, we are forced to cancel today’s outdoor Rally at the Lauridsen Amphitheater. Stay tuned, we will reschedule soon. Be safe out there!
    "Surely you're not mocking Trump for taking tornado warnings seriously."

    Indeed, I'm not. But if he was a better team player, maybe he and DeSantis would have been at both events, and Trump could have had his rally without a hitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    There’s no substitute for victory. We must reject the culture of losing that has infected our party in recent years.
    Ah, yes, I can see it now.

    "Reject the culture of losing!" the right-wing Trump supporter chanted, proudly displaying his Trump 2020 T-shirt and waving a Confederate flag, accidentally flashing a glimpse of the Swastika tattooed on his flabby bicep. Soon he will return to his empty apartment and angrily mail his ex-wife a check for child support, but tonight he feels like a winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    Ah, yes, I can see it now.

    "Reject the culture of losing!" the right-wing Trump supporter chanted, proudly displaying his Trump 2020 T-shirt and waving a Confederate flag, accidentally flashing a glimpse of the Swastika tattooed on his flabby bicep. Soon he will return to his empty apartment and angrily mail his ex-wife a check for child support, but tonight he feels like a winner.
    These are, as you touched on, the same group of people that think sporting a confederate flag is "patriotic."

    Nuance and irony is not something they're wont to understand.
    “Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Well, time to check Trump's social media.

    Happy Mother’s Day to ALL
    Oh...that's...actually quite nice. I guess he's actually t--

    in particular the Mothers, Wives and Lovers of the Radical Left Fascists, Marxists, and Communists who are doing everything within their power to destroy and obliterate our once great Country. Please make these complete Lunatics and Maniacs Kinder, Gentler, Softer and, most importantly, Smarter, so that we can, quickly, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
    And there it is.

    To the best of my knowledge, Trump did not say anything about any of his wives and/or daughters who themselves are mothers. It's possible he did so in a separate post which did not make national headlines.

    Oh, and some Chinese knockoff tweets about DeSantis and Carroll.

    If any Trump supporters can find anything he sent or said on Mother's Day about his own family members, feel free to share. I won't be holding my breath.

    "Um...'lovers'?"

    Trump likely assumes everyon has as many mistresses as he does. Write what you know, I guess.

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    Trump's DC hotel goes to SCOTUS.

    Democrats have accused the former president of hiding a significant amount of debt during the GSA’s initial bidding process for the hotel. They have also raised concerns about how Trump managed potential conflicts of interest while he served as president, including doing business with foreign governments who stayed at the hotel at the same time they were seeking to influence U.S. foreign policy
    "Trump lied on official documents" is starting to become his campaign slogan. And yes, let's not forget about Trump taking money directly from foreign governments. And I'm not even sure this lawsuit deals with Trump's direct intervention to move the FBI headquarters, because Trump would personally directly profit from the hotel.

    Now from the looks of things, Biden is fighting back on the grounds of "this means a political party, even one that lost 2020, could open random-ass investigations purely on political bile" and honestly I get that, too. But from the looks of things, this case can probably stand on its own merits. Simply put, if Biden was directly taking money from foreign governments and/or his own, then lying about it on his taxes, that'd be frowned upon. The fact that only Trump put himself in a situation this corrupt can and should be brought up in trial, to keep this from becoming "even the losingest of losing losers can subpoena anything because reasons".

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    Trump supporter breaks into VA Rep's office and puts two aides in the hospital.

    "Hey, this article doesn't say he's a Trump supporter!"

    Well, until another major political party starts encouraging force and violence to achieve political goals, he's the default go-to for American terrorism. Tell you what, Trump supporters, you keep an eye on this and if it turns out it wasn't one of you, feel free to attempt to say "He wasn't a Trump supporter" and I'll immediately ignore your reply because you haven't discussed the Carroll verdict yet. Until then, I'm calling it now: Trump supporter. It just fits all the Jan 6th of evidence we've Charlottesville for quite some time.

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    THE BOMBSHELL DURHAM REPORT IS OUT!!!! REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR YEARS FOR THIS TO PROVE ALL THEIR CLAIMS ABOUT THE CORRUPT DEEP-STATE!!!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/u...on-durham.html

    John Durham, the Trump-era special counsel who for four years has pursued a politically fraught investigation into the Russia inquiry, accused the F.B.I. of a “lack of analytical rigor” in a final report made public on Monday that examined the bureau’s investigation into whether the 2016 Trump campaign was conspiring with Moscow.

    An initial scan of Mr. Durham’s 306-page report appeared to show little substantial new information about the F.B.I.’s handling of the Russia investigation, known as Crossfire Hurricane, and it failed to produce the kinds of blockbuster revelations impugning the bureau that former President Donald J. Trump and his allies had once suggested that Mr. Durham would find.

    Instead, the report — released without substantive comment or redactions by Attorney General Merrick B. Garland — repeated previously exposed flaws in the inquiry, including from a 2019 inspector general report, while concluding that the F.B.I. suffered from a confirmation bias as it pursued leads about Mr. Trump’s ties to Russia.

    “Throughout the duration of Crossfire Hurricane, facts and circumstances that were inconsistent with the premise that Trump and/or associated with the Trump campaign were involved in a collusive or conspiratorial relationship with the Russian government were ignored or simply assessed away,” Mr. Durham declared.

    Mr. Durham largely revisited criticisms uncovered in a separate investigation and continued to insinuate that Hillary Clinton’s campaign had helped fuel the Russia investigation. In 2019, an inspector general found that the F.B.I. had botched wiretap applications used in the inquiry.

    “Our investigation also revealed that senior F.B.I. personnel displayed a serious lack of analytical rigor toward the information that they reviewed, especially info received form politically affiliated persons and entities,” Mr. Durham wrote. “This information in part triggered and sustained Crossfire Hurricane and contributed to the subsequent need for Special Counsel Mueller’s investigation.”

    But in using the word “triggered,” Mr. Durham’s report echoed a conspiracy theory pushed by supporters of Mr. Trump that the F.B.I. opened the investigation in July 2016 based on the so-called Steele dossier, opposition research indirectly funded by the Clinton campaign that was later discredited.

    In fact, as Mr. Durham acknowledged elsewhere in the report, the dossier did not reach those investigators until mid-September. The F.B.I. instead opened the investigation based on a tip from an Australian diplomats, following WikiLeaks’ publication of hacked Democratic emails, that a Trump campaign aide had previously seemed to indicate advance knowledge that Russia would release information damaging to the Clinton campaign.

    The special prosecutor’s findings were sent to Mr. Garland on Friday and were presented to Congress and the news media without any additions or alterations, a department spokeswoman said.
    Well I'll be...the Durham investigation has ultimately turned out to be exactly the kind of nothinberder everyone has said it would be all along! No big bombshells, nobody locked up, no DEEP STATE, nothing. Just some criticisms of how the investigation was handled and a few more shoutouts to conspiracy theories that his investigation found no evidence to support.

    It's great that he's wrapped this up, because now he can go back to spending all of his time in his true passion: Impersonating Jamie Hyneman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    “triggered”
    Man, you know it's going to be brutal when Edge- starts with all-caps.

    Oh, and big surprise, Trump commented the same way.

    WOW! After extensive research, Special Counsel John Durham concludes the FBI never should have launched the Trump-Russia Probe! In other words, the American Public was scammed, just as it is being scammed right now by those who don’t want to see GREATNESS for AMERICA!
    "So Durham concluded that Mueller sh--"

    No.

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    Yet another GOP member whose career is over anyhow criticizes Trump.

    It's Karl Rove, a name that used to mean something.

    Trump is better [off] spending his time talking about what it is that he wants to do rather than trying to run down his opponents. Right now, ‘Ron DeSanctimonious,’ I mean, first of all, what does that mean?

    I mean, Ron DeSantis has higher favorables than Trump. So he’s sort of punching- punching down in one way [at] somebody that not everybody knows, but also punching up because the guy’s more popular than he is.

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    https://www.thedailybeast.com/it-cos...an-6-committee

    Steve Bannon’s nihilist fight with the Jan. 6 Committee—in which the right-wing podcaster and one-time Donald Trump adviser ignored a congressional subpoena and ended up convicted of a crime—cost him more than half a million dollars.

    And that’s not to mention the four-month jail sentence he’ll start if his appeal fails or the $6,500 fine that goes along with it.

    Instead, Bannon’s $601,000 bill comes entirely in the form of legal bills—most of which remain unpaid to this day.
    Who knew avoiding legal responsibility could be so expensive? Also, it's shocking to me that anyone is choosing to do pro-bono work for Bannon and these folks. Sure the lawyers never know they're doing pro-bono work until after Bannon refuses to pay them and all. Shame for them, they should really pick better clients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    "most of which remain unpaid to this day"
    Look, I'm fully aware not all lawyers ask for the entire sum up front.

    Why anyone would extend a front-line Trump supporter a line of credit is well beyond me at this point.

    I am looking forward to the job application of being the lawyers to defend Bannon from the lawsuit of the other lawyers who didn't get paid. I wonder if they can deduct the bullet or the blood-soaked shoe as business expenses?

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...pert-rcna84661

    U.S. taxpayer money that was "misused" by former Architect of the Capitol Brett Blanton was repaid to the federal government by withholding the amount from his final paycheck, Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa., said on Tuesday.

    In a letter shared by Grassley, ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, Acting Architect of the Capitol Chere Rexroat said in April that about $12,500 was withheld from Blanton's final paycheck after he didn't cooperate and repay the money himself. The remaining amount, about $1,400, was contributed by an insurance company.

    "When dealing with trillions of dollars in government spending, a dozen-or-so thousand can seem like an insignificant amount. However, this amount would be important to a family struggling to make ends meet in a time of record inflation and price hikes," Grassley said in remarks on the Senate floor.

    The GOP senator recounted a report by the inspector general that found that Blanton had engaged in "unauthorized vehicle use, misrepresentation as a law enforcement officer, ethics violations, and lastly appropriations violations." Blanton had driven more than 29,000 miles using government vehicles instead of the allotted roughly 10,000 miles, the report said.

    "In total, the Inspector General identified $13,926 of inappropriate costs associated with Blanton’s use of government vehicles," Grassley said Tuesday.

    Grassley noted that he had sent a letter to Blanton in February asking when he would repay the money.

    "As of today, more than two months later, he’s failed to respond to my inquiry and my staff’s attempts to contact him," Grassley said. "He also has made no effort to repay the money he owes the American people."

    As a result, Rexroat said that more than $12,500 was withheld from Blanton's final payment and was returned to the Treasury.

    Blanton did not immediately return a request for comment.

    In mid-February, President Joe Biden fired Blanton as the architect of the Capitol after the inspector general's report revealed that he had abused his authority and misused taxpayer money in his role overseeing the Capitol complex. Rexroat has since served in an interim capacity.

    Blanton could be removed only by the president because the architect of the Capitol is a presidential appointee confirmed by the Senate. Blanton was nominated to a 10-year term by former President Donald Trump; he started the job in January 2020.
    Trump, or those in his orbit/whom he appoints, and stealing money/refusing to pay it back. Name a more iconic duo.

    Imagine getting a pretty cushy 10-year job with great job security and pissing it away in 2 years. Truly, Only The Best People.

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    The dumber and brainwashed parts of my family and co-workers keep telling me "Biden is jsut as bad" or "everyone does bad things" and "we need a asshole" when presented with all the shit Trump or Desantis has done. I just need a better response then opening up my reddit app and reading the headlines. I just can't anymore

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    The Durham report is damning evidence of the rot in our government. No party, no politician should weaponize government to go after political opponents.

    There must be consequences or this will never end
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    From Nikki Haley. She I hope read the conclusion so there is no other conclusion is she is spreading false information. Not even doing the twist of truth that politics usually was but just flat out lies.

    Just read the replies on her account. While I didn't vet all for who is troll or bot there are people in here who think they know what's going on and her tweet is correct. Once more they do the "both sides", gubbbbbbement bad posts.

    My brain just hurts. Much like this tweet and the Comer shit the right just makes shit up or says "eff the truth" and goes with a narrative. This is all to cast doubt to the ill informed so called Independents each party has to get. This is for these idiots to do the "both sides' and then get distracted that a marginalized group is the real threat or there is some real socialist movement here in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zEmini View Post
    The dumber and brainwashed parts of my family and co-workers keep telling me "Biden is jsut as bad" or "everyone does bad things" and "we need a asshole" when presented with all the shit Trump or Desantis has done. I just need a better response then opening up my reddit app and reading the headlines. I just can't anymore
    Yes. Was typing, posting before your comment. It's all to get people who don't engage in politics and show up to vote every 2 or 4 years and think "both sides" are bad then vote on some ill informed topic. It's dangerous and idk how you educate people who don't engage or read the false and truth(s).
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    "Buh dah DEMS"

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    Quote Originally Posted by zEmini View Post
    "we need a asshole"
    I do hope your response is to start acting like an asshole and then ask what the fuck their problem is when they act offended and hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zEmini View Post
    The dumber and brainwashed parts of my family and co-workers keep telling me "Biden is jsut as bad" or "everyone does bad things" and "we need a asshole" when presented with all the shit Trump or Desantis has done. I just need a better response then opening up my reddit app and reading the headlines. I just can't anymore
    I spent 3 hours with an engineer (I work on the railroad) who would not STFU once he found out I voted for Biden and an atheist. Constantly asking stupid and leading questions that went no where. Kept preaching his religion to me and saying I was wrong. Would not show me the respect for my beliefs I was trying to show for his. In the end there wasn't any mutual understanding, it was nothing but a jerk off session for him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I do hope your response is to start acting like an asshole and then ask what the fuck their problem is when they act offended and hurt.
    No, that is what they want you to do. They want to feel justified when you turn their shit back on them. That is why they show no respect for anything. They have none. Best to just not engage. Don't get me wrong, I would love to do what you said. But in the end all you'll be doing is looking like the strawman they keep building us up as.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templar 331 View Post
    No, that is what they want you to do. They want to feel justified when you turn their shit back on them. That is why they show no respect for anything. They have none. Best to just not engage. Don't get me wrong, I would love to do what you said. But in the end all you'll be doing is looking like the strawman they keep building us up as.
    I do this all the time for the, "I like a guy that says it like it is." crowd when in reality they like someone that reinforces their beliefs and views and get extremely upset whenever someone gives them a brutal truth that they don't like.

    Like that time Biden said, "If you have big family gatherings during covid people will die." and the "WE LIKE A STRAIGHT SHOOTER CROWD" cried and cried and cried and cried and cried and cried and cried that Mean Joe (not Greene) said they were risking killing grandma : ( : ( : (

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    Once again, it's not a good day to be Donald Trump.

    1) He filed a motion to have the Fulton grand jury report just thrown out. One, we've all read it. Two, the legal grounds were "it makes me look bad".

    No, really.

    Naturally the DA wrote a response detailing why Trump's requests were horseshit.

    For one, Trump claimed the entire process was unConstitutional but never said how.

    For two,

    They seek to ‘restrain’ a criminal investigation before any charges are filed or even sought; they ask that the judicial system place them above and apart from the common administration of the criminal law; and they do so by raising arguments for which they have no standing, or which they failed to timely join, or which they have already failed, or which have no basis in law at all
    For three, one of his legal reasons was "someone tweeted a political cartoon once". No, really. Once.

    For four, this has been ongoing for years and Trump is only speaking up now.

    By his own estimation, Mr. Trump has been at the center of an investigation which has progressed for over two years, but only now is he moving for the prosecutor’s disqualification
    And following that, for five, Trump is claiming that, because he's the center of this whole thing, and the grand jury report would therefore damage him, therefore it's bad therefore illegal. Thing is, Trump isn't a named defendant. And Georgia laws...most laws?...don't allow you to jump into another person's civil or criminal trial, because the results of that trial make you look bad.

    The Movants only arrive at an injury to themselves through a daisy chain of cause and effect: if other parties could articulate individualized injuries to themselves, this could affect the administration of the grand jury or the creation of its final report. If the final report is affected, it is possible that individuals named in the report could be affected. If the Movants are among the individuals named in the report, then their due process rights could possibly be injured. The individualized injury requirement prevents exactly this kind of attenuation.
    "So, was that Trump admitting he was about to be arrested?"

    No, I think that was Trump concerned about his image and ego. Trump may be incapable of understanding his words and actions have consequence.

    Trump apparently asked for a bunch of other stuff, like a new judge, new DA, probably a pony. He had no legal basis for any of it, at least, based on this well-written response by DA Willis. Team Trump is expected to ask the judge for time to respond to this response, which is them basically saying "our first filing was basically us just yelling really loud, and now we'd like to stall while finding anything at all to back these claims which it looks like we just made up".

    "Don't these lawyers realize they're in danger if they keep doing whatever Trump asks, especially the stuff that has no legal standing?"

    Funny you should say that.

    2) Timothy Parlatore, an attorney for Donald Trump who played a key role in the Mar-a-Lago documents investigation and once testified before the grand jury, is leaving Trump’s legal team, two sources familiar with the exit tell CNN.

    “It’s been an incredible honor to serve and work through interesting legal issues. My departure was a personal choice and does not reflect upon the case, as I believe strongly the (Justice Department) team is engaging in misconduct to pursue an investigation of conduct that is not criminal,” Parlatore said in a statement to CNN.

    Parlatore’s exit is notable given he was the attorney who organized searches for additional classified documents last year at Trump Tower, Trump’s properties in Bedminster, Mar-a-Lago, an office in Palm Beach and a Florida storage unit.

    He also testified before the grand jury as Trump’s team and the Justice Department were embroiled in a dispute in which the Justice Department unsuccessfully sought to hold Trump in contempt for failing to hand over all classified documents after receiving a subpoena in May 2022.

    Parlatore appeared before the grand jury for roughly seven hours in December.

    “They repeatedly tried to ask me about my conversations with Trump, which is totally outside the scope of what I was there for,” Parlatore said in March.

    Parlatore recently co-authored a letter to House Intelligence Chairman Mike Turner asking Congress to tell the Justice Department to step aside because they believe the intelligence community should conduct the investigation into what happened with the classified documents.
    I think we all know why this is happening. Parlatore cannot represent Trump if they are both accused of the same crime. Or, if one of them testifies against the other.

    3) Trump Claims Credit for All Abortion Bans

    He probably felt he had to do that, because DeSantis directly and specifically pointed out that his own state has an abortion ban that Trump specifically and directly called "too harsh".

    He has to do what he has to do. If you look at what DeSantis did, a lot of people don't even know if he knew what he was doing. But he signed six weeks, and many people within the pro-life movement feel that that was too harsh.
    -- Trump

    Asked about that remark, DeSantis said the legislation he signed is something that “probably 99% of pro-lifers support.”

    The governor noted that Trump had dodged on whether he would back that bill.

    “As a Florida resident, you know, he didn’t give an answer about, ‘Would you have signed the heartbeat bill that Florida did, that had all the exceptions that people talk about?’” he said.

    “The Legislature put it in, I signed the bill, I was proud to do it,” DeSantis said, adding, “He won’t answer whether he would sign it or not.”
    4) Bolton: I believe foreign leaders think Trump is a laughing fool

    That one's a video, but the headline is accurate.

    "You sure are quoting a lot of CNN."

    I mean, the town hall was excrement, but they do still publish actual journalism.

    "...are you dumping all your CNN points be--"

    5) Is there no safe beer for conservatives in America to drink right now?!

    First, Bud Light sent a few beers to a transgender influencer in early April. Then, Miller Lite ran an ad celebrating female brewers and offering up a lighthearted mea culpa over all the beer ads over the years featuring women in bikinis. Actually, the Miller Lite thing happened before the Bud Light thing, back in March for Women’s History Month, but most people didn’t see the Miller Lite thing before now. So now some on the right are mad about both of these major beer brands over what they see as selling out and taking progressive positions in supporting trans people and women.

    It’s not like beers are totally progressive now though, either. The customers these campaigns were aimed at might be upset to notice that Bud Light parent company Anheuser-Busch InBev hasn’t exactly stuck to its guns on Dylan Mulvaney, the trans influencer in question, and neither company’s political donations are super aligned with left-leaning causes.

    It’s almost like beer companies do not have a consistent, coherent set of morals and values consumers should look to for cues on what to buy. The same goes for all companies, for that matter. Corporations are not your friends, let alone your political allies.
    I honestly can't remember the last time a beer company posted, say, a dude with a gun or pickup truck or farm or something and me and my fellow "librul elites" stopped drinking that beer because of that commercial. I remember stopping drinking Bud and Miller because they didn't taste good, but that's different.

    So, yeah. Not only is Trump losing every case in court and apparently some elections, his followers can't even cry into their beers anymore.

    Trump, of course, never could. He doesn't drink. His vices cost $5 million and/or divorce proceedings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Corporations are not your friends, let alone your political allies..
    Can I point out the complete schizophrenia of the conservative movement that once was rooted in the neo-con ideals and the idolatry of the God Market and now are transitioning into "Evil corps" while at the same time pointing and yelling "Communism!!!" to everyone around them?

    Jesus-christ it should be really hard to live when everyone is conspiring against you but I do wonder where this "Listen to no one but me. Trust no one but me" song comes from....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimiOne View Post
    Can I point out the complete schizophrenia of the conservative movement that once was rooted in the neo-con ideals and the idolatry of the God Market and now are transitioning into "Evil corps" while at the same time pointing and yelling "Communism!!!" to everyone around them?

    Jesus-christ it should be really hard to live when everyone is conspiring against you but I do wonder where this "Listen to no one but me. Trust no one but me" song comes from....
    The problem (for them) is corporations have no reason to stick to republican ideals. Its just like the so-called 'war on christmas'. Corporations realize there's a market out there that isn't just straight white christians, and thus want to be welcoming and inclusive to all groups because well...money.

    Corporations love republicans for their low regulations and taxes, but thats all the common ground they have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimiOne View Post
    Can I point out the complete schizophrenia of the conservative movement
    Quote Originally Posted by Myradin View Post
    Corporations love republicans for their low regulations and taxes, but thats all the common ground they have.
    That's pretty much it. Now, to give them as much credit as I'm willing to stomach, I have no problem with people boycotting a product over a political stance. They'd hardly be the first, although buying Keurigs just to smash them might have been. But when they spent so much time and effort to get corporations a voice, and that voice sometimes says "women, interracial couples and LBGT are still human beings and we're going to treat them as such" and their fragile snowflake widdle feewings are hurt, it gives me joy that the First Amendment doesn't specifically say "you're only allowed to voice opinions the losing party agrees with".

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    And looks like there's one more.

    Trump expected to testify under oath again

    "Why are you still farming CNN points?"

    I'm not, I have plenty. But if FOX News wants to be the one pointing out Trump's massive pile of issues, who am I to stop them? FAIR AND BALLANCED Y'ALL

    A discovery hearing is set in federal court in Miami Wednesday in the former president's $500 million lawsuit against his former lawyer, Michael Cohen. Sources say that Trump is expected to be subpoenaed to testify in the case, and that as the plaintiff he cannot legally avoid giving a deposition.
    Considering what this case is about -- Cohen saying things about the crimes he committed both for and with Trump -- his testimony under oath will address exactly that issue.

    But even with that headline, FOX News admits it may not come to pass. Because Trump's lawyers are horrible.

    Cohen's side has moved to dismiss the case, claiming that the former president's "retaliatory conduct has been petty and mean spirited," that his lawsuit has passed the statute of limitations. In addition, Cohen attorney Danya Perry argued that Mr. Cohen's personal statements are protected speech and do not violate any purported confidentiality agreement because they deal with Trump's reputation and not confidential business matters of the Trump Organization, which employed Cohen.

    "It is a mystery in what way Mr. Trump's reputation could possibly have suffered. Mr. Trump's ignominy is globally known and had been well before Mr. Cohen published his book. It is the product of decades of Mr. Trump's own actions, which he has thrust onto a global stage for all to see," said the court document.

    Cohen also accuses his former Boss of using the courts as a weapon, as he has often been accused of doing by filling numerous lawsuits.
    "You capitalized 'boss'."

    No. I didn't. That's just FOX News portraying Trump.

    "How many times do we have to see Donald abuse the legal system out of retaliation, witness tampering or obstruction of justice?" Cohen told Fox News "If this deposition follows in the footsteps of his E. Jean Carroll videotaped deposition, I am certain that he will be equally pathetic and disingenuous in his responses."

    Earlier this year Trump and his lawyers were fined $1 million by a judge who accused the Trump team of using the courts to file frivolous lawsuits for political purposes. U.S. District Judge Donald Middlebrooks of the Southern District of Florida ruled that Trump engaged in "abusive litigation tactics."

    "Frivolous lawsuits should not be used as a vehicle for fundraising or fodder for rallies or social media," he wrote. "Mr. Trump is using the courts as a stage set for political theater and grievance. This behavior interferes with the ability of the judiciary to perform its constitutional duty."
    "That's a FOX News article?"

    I mean, he and Murdoch aren't BFF's anymore.

    "I'm sure he'll be fine as long as he gets one of his own judges."

    The judge is an Obama appointee.

    "Oh."

    And African-American.

    "Uh oh."

    And gay.

    "Fuck. Trump is screwed."

    If the judge interprets the law as written, yes. But that's hardly new or different.

    Now, ideally for me, would be Trump to sit under oath and lie about something Cohen can prove is true. I mean...duh.

    I am also interested in the excuses Trump will make to not go to a Miami court. He's just down the street.

    FOX News also points out the two are already due to face off twice. Cohen is suing for legal fees that, yeah hope you're sitting down for this massive surprise, Trump didn't pay.

    Actually, I suppose in retrospect it's possible Parleratore also left because he wasn't being paid. Based on Trump's long history, it fits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    That's pretty much it. Now, to give them as much credit as I'm willing to stomach, I have no problem with people boycotting a product over a political stance. They'd hardly be the first, although buying Keurigs just to smash them might have been. But when they spent so much time and effort to get corporations a voice, and that voice sometimes says "women, interracial couples and LBGT are still human beings and we're going to treat them as such" and their fragile snowflake widdle feewings are hurt, it gives me joy that the First Amendment doesn't specifically say "you're only allowed to voice opinions the losing party agrees with".

    - - - Updated - - -

    And looks like there's one more.

    Trump expected to testify under oath again

    "Why are you still farming CNN points?"

    I'm not, I have plenty. But if FOX News wants to be the one pointing out Trump's massive pile of issues, who am I to stop them? FAIR AND BALLANCED Y'ALL



    Considering what this case is about -- Cohen saying things about the crimes he committed both for and with Trump -- his testimony under oath will address exactly that issue.

    But even with that headline, FOX News admits it may not come to pass. Because Trump's lawyers are horrible.



    "You capitalized 'boss'."

    No. I didn't. That's just FOX News portraying Trump.



    "That's a FOX News article?"

    I mean, he and Murdoch aren't BFF's anymore.

    "I'm sure he'll be fine as long as he gets one of his own judges."

    The judge is an Obama appointee.

    "Oh."

    And African-American.

    "Uh oh."

    And gay.

    "Fuck. Trump is screwed."

    If the judge interprets the law as written, yes. But that's hardly new or different.

    Now, ideally for me, would be Trump to sit under oath and lie about something Cohen can prove is true. I mean...duh.

    I am also interested in the excuses Trump will make to not go to a Miami court. He's just down the street.

    FOX News also points out the two are already due to face off twice. Cohen is suing for legal fees that, yeah hope you're sitting down for this massive surprise, Trump didn't pay.

    Actually, I suppose in retrospect it's possible Parleratore also left because he wasn't being paid. Based on Trump's long history, it fits.
    *question*
    OBJECTION YOUR HONOR!
    Judge: On what grounds counselor?
    The minute my client opens his mouth, we're fucked. Utterly and completely.
    Judge: Most likely. But out of morbid curiosity, let's see what he has to say.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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