Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Benggaul]

I've always understood that of America's major sports, baseball has the strongest MAGA vibes. Seeing someone Schilling for Trump is no surprise.

I would say football, personally, but that might be my bias as a fan and former player of baseball. :P

[s_bushido]

I would say football, personally, but that might be my bias as a fan and former player of baseball. :P

I have no information on the specific topic, but I'm pretty sure the only reason the MAGAts were in an uproar over football was because of the whole "kneeling in protest" thing.

[Benggaul]

I have no information on the specific topic, but I'm pretty sure the only reason the MAGAts were in an uproar over football was because of the whole "kneeling in protest" thing.

Well they said "strongest MAGA vibes" not which sport they're more in an uproar over so I took that to mean which sport had the most MAGA fans and in my experience the only sport the MAGA types loves more than football is possibly NASCAR. I mean Herschel Walker and Burgess Owens are former players, Tuberville is a retired coach, and football is overall a more popular sport in the US anyway.

[unfilteredJW]

Well they said "strongest MAGA vibes" not which sport they're more in an uproar over so I took that to mean which sport had the most MAGA fans and in my experience the only sport the MAGA types loves more than football is possibly NASCAR. I mean Herschel Walker and Burgess Owens are former players, Tuberville is a retired coach, and football is overall a more popular sport in the US anyway.

College football. That is all.

[Flarelaine]

I have to rely on impressions on this side of the pond, but I've read somewhere that while MAGA types might love football more than baseball, football fans are less likely to be MAGA because that sport has a wider appeal.

[gondrin]

I have to rely on impressions on this side of the pond, but I've read somewhere that while MAGA types might love football more than baseball, football fans are less likely to be MAGA because that sport has a wider appeal.

In order of importance to MAGA people, it is NASCAR, followed by bull riding/rodeo sports OR MMA style fighting, then American football(specifically college and high school), then baseball and then finally basketball.

[D Luniz]

I would say football, personally, but that might be my bias as a fan and former player of baseball. :P

football is what they like to watch

but they hate the players

[Poopymonster]

I would say football, personally, but that might be my bias as a fan and former player of baseball. :P

Nascar, if it's a sport, has the strongest MAGA vibes.
"Watching cars make left turns for 4 hours" does seem to be right up their alley.

[Breccia]

Once again, it was not a good Father's Day to be Donald Trump.

A lot of people went out in public to say some very bad things about Trump.

They were all people who knew and worked with him.

1) Rep. Turner, House Intelligence Chair:

It’s certainly of grave concern.

With respect to this litigation, it’s going to go forward, and I’m certainly not going to defend the behavior that is listed in that complaint, but they’re going to have to prove it and it’s a legal process that’s going to have to go forward.

He did try to "both sides" it with Biden. But he was on an atoning CNN and it didn't go well.

2) Bolton:

I think he was kind of a collector of things that he thought were of interest to him for some reason or another, clippings, momentous, classified document. And it was very disturbing.

We could see in the course of meetings within intelligence briefings, decision meetings, that sometimes he liked to retain things, and it became the practice, just to make sure that we got them back, and as many cases as we could, Obviously, we failed in many cases. But it was a pattern that was evident to me from sort of my earliest days.

3) William Barr:

The legal theory by which he gets to take battle plans and sensitive national security information as his personal papers is absurd. It’s just as wacky as the legal doctrine they came up with for having the vice president unilaterally determine who won the election.[

The whole purpose of the statute, the Presidential Records Act, was to stop presidents from taking official documents out of the White House. It was passed after Watergate. That’s the whole purpose of it. And therefore, it restricted what a president can take. It says it’s purely private, that have nothing to do with the deliberations of government policy.

Obviously, these documents are not purely private, it’s obvious. And they’re not even now arguing that it’s purely private. What they’re saying is the President just has sweeping discretion to say they are, even though they squarely don’t fall within the definition. It’s an absurd argument.

4) Mark Esper (as in, Trump's SecDef):

People have described him as a hoarder when it comes to these type of documents. But clearly, it was unauthorized, illegal and dangerous.

Imagine if a foreign agent, another country were to discover documents that outline America’s vulnerabilities or the weaknesses of the United States military. Think about how that could be exploited, how that could be used against us in a conflict, how an enemy could develop countermeasures, things like that. Or in the case of the most significant piece that was raised in the allegation about U.S. plans to attack Iran, think about how that affects our readiness, our ability to prosecute an attack.

He was then asked if Trump should be trusted with this level of secrets ever again.

Based on his actions, again, if proven true under the indictment by the special counsel, no.

5) Chris Christie:

He’s like a nine-year-old, defiant nine-year-old kid, who’s always pushing the glass toward the edge of the table, defying his parents to stop him from doing it. It’s a means of self-assertion and exerting his dominance over other people. And he’s a very petty individual who will always put his interests ahead of the country’s, his personal gratification of his ego, but our country can’t be a therapy session for a troubled man like this.

6) And, finally, Ivanka Trump:

Happy Father's Day

Well that's nice, finally, someone saying something about Trump other than what a deplorable criminal child he--

[quote]Jared! Today and every day, the kids and I celebrate the incredible father and loving partner you are. Thank you for the countless ways you fill our lives with joy, guidance, and boundless love

[Dontrike]

Pence goes up to bat for the man who tried to have him killed by coming up with some of the dumbest shit imaginable.

“Let me say first and foremost, I don’t know why some of my competitors in the Republican primary presume the president will be found guilty,” he said. “Look, all we know is what the president has been accused of in the indictment. We don’t know what his defense is. We don’t know if this will even go to trial. It could be subject to a motion to dismiss. We don’t know what the verdict will be of the jury.”

"Why do they think he's guilty?" Could be those mountains of evidence, perhaps.

We know exactly what his defense is and it's "I'm allowed to take them, I psychically made it okay to take them, and they're mine."

He's got some real copium about this being dismissed.

Even if a jury says he's innocent we still know he stole a bunch of shit, and likely tried to sell some of it.

[s_bushido]

Why is Pence even trying to stay relevant in a world where Trump still exists? He has to know the cult is never going to give him the time of day.

[The Stormbringer]

We know exactly what his defense is and it's "I'm allowed to take them, I psychically made it okay to take them, and they're mine."

I always found this argument to be one of the most childish fucking things possible. "NUH UH! Mom said I could have it! And I want them, and they're MINE! NOT YOURS! You can't have it, I already said no-take-backsies!"

This man is practically just a malicious grade-schooler that somehow got put in charge of our country. The fact that there's still a legitimate concern he might be again is fucking mind boggling to the largest degree.

[Captain N]

This man is practically just a malicious grade-schooler that somehow got put in charge of our country. The fact that there's still a legitimate concern he might be again is fucking mind boggling to the largest degree.

Not mind-boggling at all. The USA is a land full of angry white people who need to direct their anger at something. Trump, much like the AR-15s his Cult loves so much, just started spraying shit all over the place to inflict the most amount of harm in the quickest amount of time. Remember that cruelty is the point with a large portion of Americans -- so they see him as the bully that can hurt the same people they want to hurt themselves. The American love for "wealthy strongmen" seems to override their common sense. Eventually the bully will start targeting them.

[Redwyrm]

Not mind-boggling at all. The USA is a land full of angry white people who need to direct their anger at something. Trump, much like the AR-15s his Cult loves so much, just started spraying shit all over the place to inflict the most amount of harm in the quickest amount of time. Remember that cruelty is the point with a large portion of Americans -- so they see him as the bully that can hurt the same people they want to hurt themselves. The American love for "wealthy strongmen" seems to override their common sense. Eventually the bully will start targeting them.

Plus he was on WWE once...

[swiftowner]

Nascar, if it's a sport, has the strongest MAGA vibes.
"Watching cars make left turns for 4 hours" does seem to be right up their alley.

Hey hey hey, don’t hate on “watching cars make left turns for 4 hours.” I’ve personally never been to a nascar, but I’ve been to the Indy500 many times. It’s quite exhilarating to watch in person, the sheer speed and roar of the engines, the engineering involved, and of course, the important part, the crazy crashes that most people just walk away from because those cars are so over-engineered.

But watching on TV is just stupid.

[Edge-]

Pence goes up to bat for the man who tried to have him killed by coming up with some of the dumbest shit imaginable.



"Why do they think he's guilty?" Could be those mountains of evidence, perhaps.

We know exactly what his defense is and it's "I'm allowed to take them, I psychically made it okay to take them, and they're mine."

He's got some real copium about this being dismissed.

Even if a jury says he's innocent we still know he stole a bunch of shit, and likely tried to sell some of it.

“Let me say first and foremost, I don’t know why some of my competitors in the Republican primary presume the president will be found guilty,”

Does Mike Pence know who the current POTUS is?

[Belize]

Why is Pence even trying to stay relevant in a world where Trump still exists? He has to know the cult is never going to give him the time of day.

Pence looks like the kind of guy with a cucking fetish

[Flarelaine]

Nascar, if it's a sport, has the strongest MAGA vibes.
"Watching cars make left turns for 4 hours" does seem to be right up their alley.

The bolded phrase is exactly why I haven't thought of Nascar.

[Cthulhu 2020]

I love how huge fascist Republican billionaires are backing RFK Jr as an appeal to the "Far left" anti establishment. Like, "Biden's not left enough for me, time to vote for a anti vaxxer anti trans conspiracy theorist who's backed by the same people that backed Trump."

They think they're going to have a Trump 2.0 on their hands where people will have the same disdain for Biden as they did for Hillary. He's a spoiler candidate. He has no real chance of winning, and he only serves to attempt to siphon votes off of Biden. Anyone who votes for RFK Jr because Biden isn't "left enough" is a fucking idiot.

[Edge-]

I love how huge fascist Republican billionaires are backing RFK Jr as an appeal to the "Far left" anti establishment. Like, "Biden's not left enough for me, time to vote for a anti vaxxer anti trans conspiracy theorist who's backed by the same people that backed Trump."

They think they're going to have a Trump 2.0 on their hands where people will have the same disdain for Biden as they did for Hillary. He's a spoiler candidate. He has no real chance of winning, and he only serves to attempt to siphon votes off of Biden. Anyone who votes for RFK Jr because Biden isn't "left enough" is a fucking idiot.

Conservatives were boosting Williamson until RFK appeared and are now all-in on boosting RFK. It's fuckin hilarious because I guess they think literally anyone left of Lindsey Graham gives a shit about him and like, nah dog the only folks that listen to him or care about him are the folks who will vote for whoever the Republican nominee is, especially if it's Trump.

He's got 'ol Joe Rogan all hot and bothered and fired up as he goes on the show to complain about the chemicals in the water turning the frogs trans.