Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Kaleredar]

You ask and you shall receive, somewhat. It will be on their YouTube channel.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...9d2cb62b6&ei=8

"Televised court cases are the ultimate reality TV—and Donald Trump, above else, is a reality TV star,"

I'm not so sure of that. This isn't a venue Trump has any ownership over. He's not sitting at the head of a big table telling people they're fired. He can't just start speaking whenever he wants or tell people to shut up or talk over the prosecutor or judge. This isn't Judge Judy where they're trying for maximum drama where a bumbling plaintiff and defendant unversed in law take catty swings at one another to the hooting and hollering of an audience.

This will be primarily between lawyers and the judge with Trump sitting awkwardly behind a table sitting on his little hands and speaking only when being told to while, hopefully, the prosecution runs circles around Trump's ill-prepared, mismanaged and directionless defense council on a national stage.

[Breccia]

Meadows goes to federal court and files...something, I dunno.

He seems to be begging federal courts to steal his case from Atlanta, on the grounds of "I don't want to stay in Atlanta court where I'll be found guilty".

These filings highlight that, if Mr. Meadows is entitled to removal but removal is not promptly effectuated, he will be substantially prejudiced and subjected to the very burdens of state-court litigation from which federal law relieves him upon notification to the state court

So, what he seems to be saying, is that "if federal court can save me, you have to do so before Chesebro drags me to the stand". The Chesebro trial starts Oct 23, which I hear is a good day for being nuked.

Meadows is apparently still hoping that he can move the case to federal court and then claim immunity as a federal employee. His testimony and the results of his testimony are pretty damning, as he damn near said "my federal job was everything so I can't be prosecuted for all those crimes I did". If he doesn't get immunity, his on-the-record under oath comments can't help (it's possible he said the same thing on communications Smith/Willis have, therefore, it's possible they didn't hurt him).

It is also possible he committed perjury, by saying things like "I had nothing to do with the fake electors" when there's objective proof he did. And Smith is watching.

In a short related story, one of Trump's PAC slush funds for paying his legal bills is running out. Despite the influx of selling mug shot T-shirts...about $10 million it seems...Save America POS, fuck, Save America PAC has gone from $150 million to $4 million. I don't know how much four concurrent trials for an objective traitor cost, but I'm pretty sure $4 million won't cover it. Expect Trump to cut back on ads and try to fund raise through direct emails, to continue to deny to pay his allies despite how fucking stupid of a move that is, and most importantly, to suddenly do that super sketchy PAC-SuperPAC dance where money seems to magically appear with no known source. Trump can pay his own money, but he won't. It's more likely he'll drain his other PAC funds and, yes, bone spur his way into 2024 with nothing while DeSantis apparently has $130 million onhand.

[Gabriel]

Ivanka...I wouldn't be too surprised if she threw her father under that bus first. She knows what daddy does.

I'd like to file a motion preventing anyone from ever using the word "daddy" in the context of Donald J. Trump again.

[Fuiking]

Team Trump needs to get some crash courses in how to dodge shit by Teflon Mark.. ''I have no active memory of me saying that/having written that'' = destroys all arguments in one go.

[Egomaniac]

I wonder how Eric is taking the fact that his father has been throwing his ass under the bus over this.

It'd be pretty funny if one of Donald's kids ends up flipping on him because he keeps trying to throw them...well Eric, under the bus.

And all this time we thought he was trying to fuck his daughter...

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I'd like to file a motion preventing anyone from ever using the word "daddy" in the context of Donald J. Trump again.

Donny "The Daddy" Trump

[Corvus]

I'd like to file a motion preventing anyone from ever using the word "daddy" in the context of Donald J. Trump again.

Just wait until the transcripts of the conversations between Trump and 'daddy' putin.

[Odinfrost]

Just wait until the transcripts of the conversations between Trump and 'daddy' putin.

I am literally turning green reading that sentence with how sick it makes me...

[Gorsameth]

Team Trump needs to get some crash courses in how to dodge shit by Teflon Mark.. ''I have no active memory of me saying that/having written that'' = destroys all arguments in one go.

that doesn't work when there are a literal million pages of evidence that you did in fact write and say that.

[Flarelaine]

Ivanka...I wouldn't be too surprised if she threw her father under that bus first. She knows what daddy does.

As an aside, the lyrics of Janie's Got a Gun suddenly come to mind.

What did her daddy do?
What did he put you through?
They said when Janie was arrested
They found him underneath a train

[Breccia]

In the ongoing "Trump taking the stand is a stupid fucking idea", the AP noted that Trump said his brand is worth $10 billion, a number Trump has used before IN ALL CAPS on a federal form -- with nothing to back it up.

He also said Mar-a-Lago was worth $1.5 billion.

"That sounds about right."

No, it doesn't.

In 2018 Forbes said it was worth $160 million.

In 2022, Forbes said it was worth $350 million.

When the story about Trump selling to Eric broke, a story that Eric denies by the way, the listed value on the story was $422 million and local realtors agreed with it.

So no, it's not worth $1.5 billion, and there are two people who know this: Letita James and Donald Trump.

In the lawsuit that this deposition is about, James notes that Trump valued Mar-a-Lago at $739 million. Again, way over any price anyone competent and independent has said.

The Mar-a-Lago club was valued as high as $739 million based on the false premise that it was unrestricted property and could be developed and sold for residential use, even though Mr. Trump himself signed deeds donating his residential development rights and sharply restricting changes to the property. In reality, the club generated annual revenues of less than $25 million and should have been valued at closer to $75 million.

Yep. Trump personally signed legal forms that lowered the value of his property, then filed legal forms saying the value went up. Even Trump's highest filing isn't half of what he said it was on the stand, and even he knows that value is wrong.

"Surely it's worth more than $75 million though."

Seems pretty irrelevant, she's not the one committing fraud. She's not the one who tripled its value by handwaving on the stand. Also, just to be clear, that $75 million price tag is closer to the 2022 Forbes value than what Trump has said, and almost as close to the value local realtors agreed to as the one Trump said. Well, filed. He said $1.5 billion on the stand. That's nowhere near anything realistic.

I am neither a realtor nor a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure you can't just invent a fictional buyer and their fictional price and claim your assets are worth that much, file official papers with those fictional values, and have it remain unchallenged. I can say "calling tehdang a troll and not getting infracted is worth $10 billion" all I want, but if I give up that asset and claim a deduction on my taxes for it, I'm going to jail.

As expected, when Trump was asked about the people asking to buy his properties, he had no names to give them. Also known as "admitted he was making shit up". I covered that before, but it's worth repeating.

Trump did, at least, use phrasing along the lines of "I think I could probably get $1.5 billion for it" which is not perjury, just a public statement that cannot be backed and is criminally stupid. Of course, if there was such a thing as being put in prison for being stupid, Trump would be doing multiple life sentences by now.

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Garland has a DoJ task force for arresting people who threaten election workers, and they just got their ninth conviction.

The DOJ announced Thursday that two men in two separate cases in Arizona and Georgia had pleaded guilty to threatening election officials in the respective states in separate cases, brought by the the Justice Department's Election Threats Task Force — which has now brought charges in 14 cases.

These include a 2.5-year prison sentence handed down on Monday to an Iowa man, who had left voicemails threatening to "hang" officials including former Attorney General of Arizona Mark Brnovich.

On Thursday, an Ohio man pleaded guilty to sending a death threat to an election official with the Arizona secretary of state's office and a Texas man pleaded guilty to "posting a message online threatening several Georgia public officials following the 2020 election," per the DOJ.

The task force has reviewed over 1,000 contacts reported as hostile or harassing by the election community and about 11% of these met the threshold for a federal criminal investigation as of Aug. 1, according to the Justice Department.

"Okay, why post that here?"

You know why.

[Strange One]

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It's the left that is violent...

[Edge-]

https://www.salon.com/2023/08/31/pro...d-to-17-years/

I WAS DEFAMED BY NYS - ELECTION INTERFERENCE!

Huh, I guess publicly discussing how Donald constantly lied about the value of his assets for tax/loan purposes is defamation? Y'all, let's defame the fuck outta this dishonest loser.

Remember, he's still the frontrunner for the Republican ticket.

[Breccia]

As always, the second Trump gets off the stand, his tune changes.

THE THING I HAVE IS A GREAT CASE BASED ON PHENOMENAL NUMBERS THAT SHOW A NET WORTH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS MORE THAN SHE VICIOUSLY & FALSELY CLAIMED, VERY LITTLE DEBT, BIG CASH, A POWERFUL DISCLAIMER CLAUSE, PAID OFF LOANS, NO DEFAULTS, “HAPPY” BANKS, GREAT ASSETS

I WAS DEFAMED BY NYS – ELECTION INTERFERENCE!

We've already covered most of that. Trump has no basis for any of his numbers and makes stuff up. He even admitted it under oath, this very lawsuit.

And we've covered defamation before, too. Trump hasn't sued for defamation for two reasons. One, even if he thinks he's right, he knows the NY AG has enough evidence that they aren't pushing a known lie. I used Forbes, for example, and local realtors. These are reasonable sources. Even if someone does magically offer Trump $1.5 billion, I wasn't lying, and I wasn't being negligent. And NYS has way better resources than me. It would be impossible to prove, under these circumstances, that the NY AG willfully lied -- it would be easier to prove Trump did. Two, you basically can't sue for courtroom testimony. If a witness perjures themselves maybe, but they'll be in jail. A lawyer who lies could be disbarred. Nothing of that kind applies here.

But I haven't mentioned the disclaimer yet. And Trump did bring it up. Example:

I mean, no bank -- no bank would make a loan on this document. And yet you're suing me based on this document. And I don't say my lawyers. I say lawyers that have seen this say, this case is a disgrace because you have the strongest worthless clause that they've ever seen, a disclaimer clause that they've ever seen, and you're being sued on a document that disclaims right on the first and second page.

Trump argued during the 400+ pages that the forms he sent to banks and insurers and tax officials said "I do not stand behind these evaluations, do your own research". This is not how it works.

"I'd like to insure my car."
"Sure, can you tell me the car's make, model, and year, so we know how much coverage to extend?"
"No, do your own homework."
"We can't insure your car unless we know how much it's worth."
"Fine, it's worth $1.5 billion dollars."

In terms of fraud, which is a lie so bad it's criminal, there either isn't or shouldn't be a difference between "the sky is green" and "the sky is green, and if you don't believe me look out the window yourself". You still lied.

If Trump didn't believe his own numbers, why would he sign them and submit them at all? Because he had to. He was required by NY law and/or the contracts he signed with the bank or insurer. You don't get to just break the law, then say "they should have stopped me, arrest them".

Look, Page 1 == 1, Page 2, two pages saying that this document is worthless. And you're suing me on the fact == now -- then in addition to that, the numbers turn out to by the exact opposite of what you said. Because when you carry this forward eight years, six years, seven years, these numbers turn out to be -- they turn out to be actually the exact opposite of what you're saying in your lawsuit. And that's the ultimate appraisal. You know, the ultimate appraisal is, gee, six years later it's -- your Doral is worth a fortune. Six years later Mar-a-Lago quadrupled in value or more.

He's actually telling the truth a little bit here, Mar-a-Lago's value did increase rapidly after he purchased and renovated it.

But "the form might not be accurate in six years" is not an acceptable excuse, either. Nobody expects a magical piece of paper that adjusts to the CPI. It needs to be accurate when filed. Trump didn't do that. He lied.

Bear in mind, he's being accused of cheating on his taxes, which are a yearly thing. I don't get to tell the IRS to give me a refund because I'll be fired in six years, and expect not to get audited or jailed.

Nothing Trump posted is going to help him. He can rant and rave outside of the courtroom all he wants, but the evidence is going to decide it, NOT THE AMOUNT OF CAPS.

EDIT: @Edge- for the love of...you know what, fuck it, I'm getting some brisket chili and a nap, in that order.

[Edge-]

Did you know that Newsmax is helping fundraise for Rudy's defense?

https://w3.newsmax.com/General/Misc/Rudy-Fund

Well, they are.

And apparently there's a phone number you can call, too

1-800-224-4919

In case anyone wants support "America's Mayor" and Time's Person of the Year in 2001.

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https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1697354370344484966

Former DoD special counsel points out that Meadows appears to have added perjury to his list of charges.

After initially claiming he had no role in the fake electors scheme, he later admitted that he did actually have some involvement and gave direction to campaign officials about this.

Though he claims that his work on this subject were a part of his duties as Chief of Staff, which seems pretty sus.

[Breccia]

I assume Carlson is laying the groundworks for the next conspiracy.

Carlson in the same interview says he has proof Obama had sex with men and used crack.

His "proof" is a promised interview with Larry Sinclair. As it so happens, I found an article about Sinclair from 2008.

He was first arrested on a larceny charge in 1981 in Denver, according to his Colorado arrest record, as filed in federal court. In 1985, he was convicted of theft and of forging a check in Florida, and sentenced to a year in jail, according to Florida records filed in federal court.

After the Florida episode, according to the records, he returned to Colorado, where he faced check fraud and credit card charges in 1986. Then, in 1987, he was convicted in Colorado on more serious forgery charges, and sentenced to 16 years in jail.

In prison, according to state records filed in federal court, Sinclair was disciplined 97 times for infractions including assault, threats, drug possession, intimidation, and verbal abuse, most recently in
1996.

“He has not institutionalized well,” a spokeswoman for the Colorado Department of Corrections, Liz McDonough, told the Denver Post in 1996 after a month-long Sinclair hunger strike. She said he had served time in prisons in Buena Vista, Delta, Limon and Canon City before being transferred to the state’s maximum security penitentiary in 1993.

In the summer of 1996, according to Colorado’s state court database, he began proceedings to formally change his name from LA Rye Viz. Avila to Larry Wayne Sinclair. By 1999, according to a mention in a local newspaper, he was out of jail and living in Pueblo, Colo.

The Public Citizen investigator in Colorado stated that Sinclair’s outstanding legal troubles there appear to date from 2001, and that Sinclair’s effort to convince the judge in 2004 to dismiss those charges failed. The Pueblo County Sheriff’s website, which pictures Sinclair under the word “Wanted,” cites felony theft and forgery charges.

Sinclair was also arrested and charged with disorderly conduct in South Carolina last September, according to state records filed in federal court.

Yes, Sinclair claimed that he was the one who had crack and sex with Obama in 1999.

So...it seems unlikely he has proof of anything other than "I am going to jail for another felony". But why not, let's look anyhow.

(90 seconds later)

He doesn't even have a Wikipedia page. From the looks of things, nobody believed him, he wrote a book nobody bought or liked, and ran for office and lost. Specifically, the town of Cocoa, and no, I am not making this up, Florida. The convicted felon came in third. He lost a race so inconsequential, it was easier to find this Rumble video claiming Larry Sinclair was murdered to keep Obama's secret than the political party of the two people Sinclair lost to.

"Wait, he's dead?"

You saw me use the name Rumble, right? Say what you want about Carlson, I don't see him digging up a corpse to put on TV. Er, his blog.

Carlson then cried like a child and begged Murdoch to take him back. I'm kidding, but not by much.

Imagine being so desperate for ratings you dig up a story from 15 years ago about an event from 24 years ago that required you to put a convicted fraud felon on your show and hoped people would go for it. Look, I know cable likes to rerun the original Star Wars movies, but they won't outsell anything in the theaters.

No wonder Putin wants him dead. He's not holding up his end of the deal.

"Maybe he should have had a Trump interview."

Um...actually, no, Sinclar is only the second worst conspiracy theorist and convicted fraud felon that's going to be on the airwaves. Trump apparently went on Real America's Voice, okay, and his interview was so bad people thought it was an AI script.

The 17-minute call with hosts John Soloman and Amanda Head was plagued by consistent cut-outs as the stiff voice purported to be Mr Trump shifted dramatically.

When Real America’s Voice shared a clip of the interview on X, users were quick to speculate that Soloman and Head had been duped by a prank caller or a fake, artificially intelligent version of Mr Trump.

“A fringe, far-right ‘tv news’ network tried to pass off a fake AI Trump tonight to their viewers as a legitimate interview with the disgraced former president,” William Legate wrote.

“LOL/BREAKING: ‘Real America’s Voice’ fooled by ‘Trump Impersonator’s Voice’,” broadcaster Keith Olbermann said.

“This sounds more like a prank caller than like Trump, what on earth?” John Hasson said.

“Uh.. either this is a prank call or President Trump is not doing well. What’s going on with his voice here?” GOP communicator Matt Whitlock added.

"What did Trump even say?"

I mean, Trump already sounds like he's reading an AI script that was made from reading his older appearances. Trump has no new material.

"Surely the Real America people quickly and clearly proved that it was Trump!"

Uh....no.

Mr Soloman, however, was insistent that nothing nefarious was afoot.

“It’s not AI, it was President Trump,” Mr Solomon told The Daily Beast.

“You can call the staff and check with them yourself. It was definitely President Trump without any doubt,” he added.

Mr Solomon said that he had organised the interview with Mr Trump’s aides, outlined the issues that would be discussed with his staff, and that he “called them at the right location”.

But on Friday morning, The Daily Beast senior media reporter Justin Baragona tweeted an “important update on this story”.

“Real America’s Voice is now saying that the person claiming to be owner Robert Sigg, who told our reporter that he would be investigating whether the network was duped by a fake Trump interview, is not Sigg,” he said.

[Edge-]

rofl, Solomon is resorting to bad AI generated fake interviews?

Even Alex Jones got a 1:1 with Donald when he was president-elect, Solomon can't score a 1:1 with Donald when has a multi-indicted candidate years later?

Sad. Low energy. Guess this is what poor John's left with now that nobody else will touch his lying ass and all his made up scandals.

[Breccia]

rofl, Solomon is resorting to bad AI generated fake interviews?

Or, it's real, that's the best Trump could do -- that performance on that show. That's arguably worse.

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Chesebro files this motion to separate his case from everyone else's, but especially Powell's.

Finally, and most importantly:
a. Mr. Chesebro has never physically met Sidney Powell;
b. Mr. Chesebro has never sent an email to Ms. Powell;
c. Mr. Chesebro has never received an email from Ms. Powell;
d. Mr. Chesebro has never called Ms. Powell;
e. Mr. Chesebro has never received a phone call from Ms. Powell;
f. Mr. Chesebro has never texted Ms. Powell;
g. Mr. Chesebro has never received a text message from Ms. Powell; and
h. Mr. Chesebro has never communicated with Ms. Powell through any social media or telecommunications application.

Hoo boy.
a) I think Chesebro is lying, and I think there's proof of that, and
b) I think Powell read my posts about Chesebro trying to go first to sell everyone else first and is trying to go firster.

I'll also point out that this is irrelevant. If Trump gives two lackeys orders to go subvert democracy and they do it, it doesn't matter if they've ever met.

Okay, so, y'all remember the gas mask scene of the Wonder Woman movie? I think we're seeing that play out.

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As we all know, Trump has sued Cohen for $500 million in damages for, basically, telling the truth about Trump.

The judge in the case has demanded Trump make that claim to his face in person.

As a reminder, Trump is suing for $74,000 he paid Cohen that he now claims Cohen fraudulently charged, and as a result of this charge, somehow cost Trump $500 million in damages. Cohen has sued Trump for not paying him, and Trump settled, so I don't see how this case has any traction.

I believe the judge in this case has seen all the stories and knows exactly what Trump is. I think Trump will be required to testify under oath, not have his lawyers lie for him, and force Trump to make the decision to either perjure himself or refuse to testify, at which point, I think the judge will instantly dismiss the case and probably sanction Trump's lawyers.

I think Trump will chicken out.

[gondrin]

Speaking of Trump taking the stand, either it is "I Plead the Fifth" or he becomes The Ramblin Man. It got so bad during his deposition for the fraud case that a lawyer complained they were going to be there until midnight.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...5d8a23be4&ei=7

Trump rambled so much in an NY fraud-case deposition that a lawyer griped, 'We're going to be here until midnight'

The first time Donald Trump was deposed by Attorney General Letitia James of New York — who's spent more than two years calling him an inveterate fraudster — the former president pleaded the Fifth Amendment repeatedly.

But in a second deposition held this past April, the AG's office couldn't get him to shut up, including about the "beautiful" marble bathrooms in his "tremendous" properties, a newly released transcript showed.

In a seven-hour grilling that's a prelude to Trump's $250 million civil-fraud trial on October 2, his answers were so long-winded that one of James' lawyers said aloud if he didn't speed it up, everyone in the room would "be here until midnight."

Trump's deposition transcript was released late Wednesday by the attorney general's office, which alleged that the former president, his two eldest sons, and two of his former top executives routinely inflated his net worth in financial filings made on behalf of the Trump Organization, his international real-estate and golf-resort company.

The "fraudulent" math helped Trump trick banks into extending lower-cost loans that saved him hundreds of millions of dollars in interest, James alleged.

During the April deposition, lawyers for both sides broke out in bickering.

"We're going to be here until midnight if you keep asking questions that are all over the map," Trump's lawyer Chris Kise said early on to one of James' top lawyers on the fraud case, Kevin Wallace.

"Chris," Wallace responded, "we're going to be here until midnight if your client answers every question with an eight-minute speech."

Trump had just launched into a stem-winder about his "brand" when the tiff broke out.

"If I wanted to build a big statement just for the sake of a statement, I would go out and I would value the brand and — which is much more than the $3 billion," Trump said. "And as I said once before today, I became President of the United States because of my brand."

Wallace attempted to get Trump back on track.

"I just want to go back to a couple of things you said," Wallace said. "The first is, you said, 'I didn't need banks for the most part.'"

"So why did you use banks?" he asked.

"Because you do it. It's better tax-wise," Trump said. "You do it."

Trump told the lawyer he paid off all the loans that he took out from banks to pay for his properties.

"Politics hurt. When I get sued by you — fortunately, I don't need banks," Trump continued. "I mean, paid off all that stuff that you used to talk about. I paid it off."

He went on to claim that "prior to [getting] sued by the Attorney General of the State of New York, banks wanted to do business with me so badly."

Wallace then tried to home in on Trump's business practices before he took office.

"What would your considerations be when you're deciding whether or not I'm going to use a bank or I'm going to borrow money for this project?" Wallace asked.

But Trump's lawyer Kise objected to the question, saying "before he was president covers from the 1950s all the way to 2017."

"Chris, I believe the question was clear until you decided to mess it up," Wallace said.

Kise replied: "No, it wasn't."

"He understood it and was able to answer it," Wallace said. "So, if you want to object, say object. Don't sit — don't try to make the question more complicated."

Wallace eventually accused Kise of straying from New York's rules of civil procedure, and the two lawyers began blaming each other's side for dragging things out, potentially, until midnight.

In other ramblings, Trump launched into a soliloquy about the beauty of the marble bathrooms at his Miami golf resort, Trump National Doral Golf Club.

"In the case of the villas, 800 rooms, they were gutted out down to the steel and rebuilt and they're incredible," he said of his renovation of the property.

"I could have done what I called a paint and wallpaper job. You just paint and wallpaper it. But it was time — it was tired," he said.

"I started using marble instead of carpet," he added, continuing a line of thought that was irrelevant.

"They're all marble bathrooms. I mean, they're beautiful."

[Breccia]

Speaking of Trump taking the stand, either it is "I Plead the Fifth" or he becomes The Ramblin Man. It got so bad during his deposition for the fraud case that a lawyer complained they were going to be there until midnight.

I have yet to see anyone reasonable claiming Trump did a good job on the stand. Articles citing experts about how much he screwed himself over are everywhere.

That is the opinion of MSNBC's Hayes Brown who compared the former president's demeanor and focus, revealed in official transcripts, in previous cases where he was forced to sit and answer questions under oath.

As Brown wrote for MSNBC, Trump's deposition, which is central to James' $250 million civil lawsuit against the Trump Organization on accusations of fraud, could hardly have gone worse for the former president because he couldn't control himself.

Yeah, I want to take a victory lap "experts agree with me, I was right!" but let's be honest, this wasn't exactly a difficult call here.

"Given the stakes, Trump should have been on his best behavior," argued Brown. "But the 479-page document, which was unsealed Thursday, is Trump in rare form. He’s combative. He’s rambling. Gone is the canny, and even shrewd, person we’ve seen at other points," he wrote before adding that the early excerpts "gave a taste of how unhinged the deposition was."

Case in point, he notes, "He [Trump] rails against Forbes, which had recently pegged his net worth at only $2.5 billion, as having an agenda against him because it’s 'owned by China.' When asked whether in 2014 he was the CEO or the president of the company he owns, he says, 'I don’t know exactly.' He accuses the prosecutor questioning him of letting him ramble on in hope of making a mistake, comparing the prosecutor to TV defense lawyer Perry Mason."

According to the MSNBC analyst, Trump's answers give the appearance of someone who doesn't seem to know he is under oath -- or doesn't care.

Everyone here knows Trump cannot tell the truth. Even people who say otherwise are lying. And here we see him, listening to his own lawyers objecting, and answering the question anyhow -- dozens of times. I stopped counting. We already know Trump doesn't respect his lawyers and these are the people trying to keep him from going to jail.

"It's a civil suit."

And he's perjuring himself in it. Trump Org is effectively fucked already, you cannot file two official forms for the same building for the same year with two dramatically different values and assume it's okay. That's fraud. Trump taking the stand and admitting he made shit up only put him at risk, and the only person responsible for that is Trump himself. And taking to CyberTrump 2077, or X-Men the Last Twitter, months later and no longer under oath won't help. He will only admit that he said all those stupid things under oath and that even he now knows it was a bad idea to say all those stupid things under oath.

Speaking of things falling apart on social media, WaPo has bad news about Truth Social, or more accurately, DWAC. Despite the relative increase in stock price in recent days, it's still far down, and the next vote is Sept 8. DWAC needs 65% of all owned shares to vote "yes" on the next extension, or they will collapse and repay $10/share, a total of $300 million, and close up shop.

Most shareholders will lose money if this happens. The stock price has dropped pretty consistently since the original launch, so unless you either bought last week or were one of the original shareholders, you have shares worth less now then when you bought it.

Trump probably hates this. He is in a far worse financial situation than when the deal is announced, and despite that deposition listed above in which he flat-out lied multiple times, he is not in the situation where losing hundreds of millions of effective free legal cash would be okay. There is an orange lining -- he would continue to own Truth Social outright and therefore would never be kicked off for his increasingly threatening tone. Or, he could just go back to Twitter and suffer no further loss, since the only person losing money would be himself.

When the deal was announced, Truth Social execs claimed it would be worth $900 million and have 41 million customers by now. It is not even close, having about 2 million followers as of July. Forbes says the site is worth $180 million which, yes, is less than the $300 million cited earlier, meaning any purchase would also require Truth Social to double in value after being bought.

Everything Trump touches dies. Especially the Truth.

[Gorsameth]

He accuses the prosecutor questioning him of letting him ramble on in hope of making a mistake, comparing the prosecutor to TV defense lawyer Perry Mason."

I love this bit. He controls his own mouth right? (probably not entirely considering his mental 'issues') Its on him to not ramble and answers questions in a short and concise manner.

Ofc the prosecution is going to let him ramble on when he starts rambling. More chance he messes up and says something he shouldn't.

I kind of expect Trump's lawyer at some point to object to his client rambling while on the stand.