Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Egomaniac]

I think that's new and it's ok if the people it disadvantages have a problem with it.

Who is disadvantaged?

[Gigantique]

We've clearly showed their dishonesty and blatant disregard for how actual reality work, maybe we should move on and stop feeding?

[Surfd]

What if you arranged for invalid votes to be counted later?

That would be illegal.

However, that's not really what you are asking is it, and since I see where you are going with this shitty line of reasoning, I will just pre-emptively put a bullet in it's skull for you:

In your hypothetical scenario:
- You have stipulated that there are two ways to vote: On Election Day, or By Mail in Ballot accepted any time between 6 weeks before or 6 weeks after Election Day.
- You did not stipulate that any Vote received after Election day but still within the 6 week window would not count, and doing so now would be moving the goal posts.
- In a properly conducted election, the Final result is only "official" when all Eligible votes have been counted.

Under your own proposed system, no party is "disadvantaged" by this system, because the voters of both parties have full access to both options, all voters are assumed to have voted (since you haven't stipulated a condition that prevents any of them from doing so), and all votes submitted properly are counted.

Do note, that in the interest of exercising the benefit of the doubt that you aren't actually a gibbering moron but are simply playing one on this forum, I am assuming that you understand that nobody is allowed to CAST a ballot after election day, but that due to the nature of the postal service, it is possible for a ballot cast BEFORE election day to arrive at a collection centre AFTER election day. Which is why the window of acceptance after election day exists.

If it arrives AFTER the 6 week cutoff, or it was postmarked after election day, it's not an eligible vote, so it doesn't count.

In a similar vein, "Ballot Curing" has nothing to do with "rigging" voting, but is simply a part of the Voting verification process that allows people who have had their legally cast Ballot rejected due to basic clerical mistakes to have the mistake "cured" so that their legal vote may be properly counted instead of being thrown out. By the way, the Venn diagram of a "legally cast vote" and a "cureable ballot" is a single circle. Most states t hat allow ballot curing have voting process rules that REQUIRE that if a ballot is rejected due to a "cureable" fault that the voter be contacted and given a timely window in which to have their ballot cured. Not doing so would be a violation of their constitutional right to have their vote counted.

By the way, Ballot Curing is available to all legal voters of both parties, so again, there is no "disadvantaged party" here.

I mean, the only way Ballot Curing could "disadvantage" a party by existing would be by, say, existing a state where one party is known to intentionally spread misinformation regarding the process of filling in a ballot to specific demographics, thereby deliberately attempting to get them to incorrectly fill out their ballots so that they are rejected due to easily correctable clerical errors, which allows the party spreading the misinformation to dilute their opponent's voter pool. Ballot Curing existing there would "disadvantage" the underhanded party by preventing them from shadily manipulating the vote, levelling the playing field and allowing all votes to be counted.

Oddly enough, like my previous example regarding polling stations, such things only seem to happen in states controlled by one specific party. Funny that.

[Mekh]

I wonder which of our resident retards resurrected his burner account for this nonsense. My money is on Varx.

[Shadowferal]

Support your claims with evidence.

Why don't you do the same. Because nothing you've posted has any substance. Indeed, so far you've posted outlandish bullshit.

[diller]

What if you arranged for invalid votes to be counted later?

Any proof of that happening though?

[Shadowferal]

I wonder which of our resident retards resurrected his burner account for this nonsense. My money is on Varx.

Could be.
I initially thought Orlong, but he was more blatant in his disregard for intelligence.

[Surfd]

And cured ballots aren't votes 6 weeks after the election, there isn't a single one that is more than a week after the election happens that they are fixed.

Actually, I think the window for curing signature issues in Washington is 21 days after, but yeah, that still doesn't change the fact that curing ballots is perfectly fine if supported by your state.

[Muzjhath]

One party's voters are more likely to vote in person on election day.

The other party's voters are more likely to vote by mail for 6 weeks prior to election day.

Which party is advantaged by the rules?

Historically this has been the GOP until Trump actually drove vote my mail down among Republicans

[Shadowferal]

I wouldn't waste time on this "Jermain." His last posting cycle was almost ten years ago. It ended predictably.

[Breccia]

I wouldn't waste time on this "Jermain." His last posting cycle was almost ten years ago. It ended predictably.

I agree, he must be terrified his man Trump is going to prison.

On topic -- if that's okay with everyone? -- the DWAC vote is on the way so naturally other sources are discussing it. Axios brings up two points I don't think we've discussed.

One, Truth Social has been emailing its users, asking them to support the merger.

"Wait, they get a vote?"

Only if they own the DWAC stock. This appears to be a Trump-style PR campaign. Trump must be really worried the deal is going to fall through -- which he should be, the site has no staff, no infrastructure, and nobody goes there. It's a bad buy.

And two,

Truth Social has never disclosed its financials, including loans or how much Trump himself invested, so it's unclear how long the company could remain financially viable were the DWAC merger to fail.

There's a reason you don't show your prospective buyers your books. It's because they suck.

Navarro's contempt trial is about to begin as well. Like Meadows, Navarro is claiming he is protected by Executive Time. We'll see how long that lasts, but, by saying "Trump made me do it" on the record, he's making the RICO case stronger still. Meadows hasn't exactly been helping Trump much, either.

Meadows made clear in his own testimony at last week’s hearing that Trump viewed the false electors as a significant part of his strategy to remain in power. He said he sent an email pushing the campaign to assemble those slates because he feared a tongue-lashing from Trump.

“What I didn’t want to happen was for the campaign to prevail in court action and not have this” lined up, he said.

“Why?” prosecutor Anna Cross asked him.

“Because I knew I’d be yelled at by the president of the United States,” he said.

I have to admit, "I engaged in treason against the United States, because Trump might have called me mean names" is not a defense I expected to see raised. Does kind of fit the brand, tho.

[Jermain]

By the way, the Venn diagram of a "legally cast vote" and a "cureable ballot" is a single circle. Most states t hat allow ballot curing have voting process rules that REQUIRE that if a ballot is rejected due to a "cureable" fault that the voter be contacted and given a timely window in which to have their ballot cured.

The second sentence annihilates the first. It can't be a single circle if some states don't allow curing.

[Kaleredar]

The second sentence annihilates the first. It can't be a single circle if some states don't allow curing.

So you seem to think ballot curing is “rigging.”

[Shadowferal]

So you seem to think ballot curing is “rigging.”

You really don't want to feed this...
His arguments are classic libertarian shit. He posts rubbish while demanding substance from those that respond, which he then derides and ridicules and dismisses no matter the truth of substance.

I'm convinced that libertarians prefer suicide to any admission that they are just wrong on every level. So any arguments with them is an immense waste of time.

[Jermain]

So you seem to think ballot curing is “rigging.”

It would also be rigging if it was taken away now, among other novel practices.

[DarkTZeratul]

Which party is advantaged by the rules?

Making it easier for people to vote advantages everyone. If the people for whom it became easier to vote are overwhelmingly of one party, then the problem was that they were selectively disadvantaged in the first place.

[PosPosPos]

It would also be rigging if it was taken away now, among other novel practices.

So, a whole lot of bad-faith, self-serving nonsense by you - according to you it's rigging if they rig and it's still rigging if they don't rig, damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Everything has to fit your wild, conspiracy-ridden narrative you have constructed based out of absolutely nothing.

[Breccia]

DWAC punts, gives second 12-month extension.

Well, we'll see how that works out. During those 12 months, they will continue to bleed money and hope Trump doesn't return to Twitter during the actual election season.

It'll be an interesting few days in court. Trump's most iconic supporters, the Proud Boys, are being sentenced. Every single one of the Georgia co-conspirators plead not guilty by mail, jury sleection has begun in Navarro's contempt case, and the NY AG is asking for sanctions against Trump's lawyers because, as she proves in her latest court filing, they've made the same motion five times now. Incidentally, the judge has already called that repeated filing nearly frivolous the second time they tried it, suggesting that sanctions will, in fact, happen.

[Odinfrost]

Glad to see that "stall stall stall" isn't working in one case. Let's hope it will be the same in the others

[Gigantique]

One would think that if one case bulldozes their attempts at stalling indefinitely the co-conspirators should start sweating even harder in the other cases too.