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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    The GOP, at least, knows Russia is a threat. It is funny to watch "Russia did nothing wrong because they did not change the results of individual voters" to "but we will take measures to make sure they don't, because Russia totally wants to."
    Funny though, Voting machines are known to be massively insecure with major issues where owners were talked to be heavy republican supporters and using them to steal votes as early as the Bush Administration but nothing ever done about it.

    Now attempts of another nation exploiting it for their gain for them to talk about banning them. Kinda makes you wonder if they were already exploiting them for themselves to keep in power and the last thing they want is another doing it as well and exposing it even more or this is just a show with no intention of follow through to make it look like he is trying even when he isn't and coming from Nunes given his history, wouldn't be surprised either way.

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    So, Cohen is claiming Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting before hand, but while willing to testify, he says he has no evidence.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/26/polit...dge/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Luniz View Post
    So, Cohen is claiming Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting before hand, but while willing to testify, he says he has no evidence.
    While this is big, you missed the best part.

    Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani pushed back on the report during an appearance Thursday night on CNN's "Cuomo Prime Time," pointing to past denials that Trump had advance knowledge of the Trump Tower meeting.

    "He didn't know about it," Giuliani asserted.

    He also blasted Cohen during the interview, calling him a "pathological liar."

    "He's been lying all week. He's been lying for years," Giuliani said. "I don't see how he has any credibility."
    What's that? Trump's lawyer has been lying for years? And Trump's lawyer is saying that?

    When I say "there is a special place in Hell for these people" I might have to be more specific about the meaning of "special".

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Luniz View Post
    So, Cohen is claiming Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting before hand, but while willing to testify, he says he has no evidence.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/26/polit...dge/index.html
    Absolute nuclear bomb this. Also this is probably going to lead to more people being interviewed if they haven't been already. From the article:

    "Cohen alleges that he was present, along with several others, when Trump was informed of the Russians' offer by Trump Jr. By Cohen's account, Trump approved going ahead with the meeting with the Russians, according to sources."

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    Even with the extended deadline, over 700 children taken from their families won't be returned by the deadline.

    Even if "won't" means "can't" in some cases, because of improper records keeping or throwing people back across the border without their kids, this is a shitshow. Trump's admin put children in concentration camps and, either because they were incompetent or because they don't care, separated them from their families against their will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Even with the extended deadline, over 700 children taken from their families won't be returned by the deadline.

    Even if "won't" means "can't" in some cases, because of improper records keeping or throwing people back across the border without their kids, this is a shitshow. Trump's admin put children in concentration camps and, either because they were incompetent or because they don't care, separated them from their families against their will.
    rather sure its because of both reasons, not just one

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    "My successes are my own, but my failures are due to extremist leftist liberals" - Party of Personal Responsibility

    Prediction for the future

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    Ron Reagan is an awesome guy. He's athiest and a liberal. I wish we could have him as president. He's more or less the exact polar opposite of his father.

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    Wasn't there a contest to hack voting machines and some 16 year old did it in 45min. I also believe the remote access password was abcde and couldn't be changed.
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    Ron Reagan is one of those rare people that actually learned from his father's mistakes, and decided to go his own way.

    He's the black sheep of thd Reagan family. Seriously, bring him up to Reagan (Sr) worshippers. They usually mumble something while looking away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Ron Reagan is one of those rare people that actually learned from his father's mistakes, and decided to go his own way.

    He's the black sheep of thd Reagan family. Seriously, bring him up to Reagan (Sr) worshippers. They usually mumble something while looking away.
    Those who Glory in Saint Ronald of Reagan will only see vile filth in his ungrateful offspring.

    The real Ronnie, totally different dude.

    But like their hero, they tend to forget that part.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    https://www.propublica.org/article/n...administration

    Trump Administration Neuters Nuclear Safety Board

    Under a new order from the Energy Department, a nuclear safety board will have to fight for information about and access to nuclear laboratories. In the past, the board has brought serious problems at those labs to light.


    The Trump administration has quietly taken steps that may inhibit independent oversight of its most high-risk nuclear facilities, including some buildings at Los Alamos National Laboratory, a Department of Energy document shows.

    An order published on the department’s website in mid-May outlines new limits on the Defense Nuclear Facilities Safety Board — including preventing the board from accessing sensitive information, imposing additional legal hurdles on board staff, and mandating that Energy Department officials speak “with one voice” when communicating with the board.

    The board has, by statute, operated independently and has been provided largely unfettered access to the nation’s nuclear weapons complexes in order to assess accidents or safety concerns that could pose a grave risk to workers and the public. The main exception has been access to the nuclear weapons themselves.

    For many years, the board asked the Department of Energy to provide annual reviews of how well facilities handled nuclear materials vulnerable to a runaway chain reaction — and required federal officials to brief the board on the findings. It also has urged the energy secretary not to restart certain nuclear operations at various sites until work could be done safely.

    At Los Alamos, the board has conducted ongoing reviews of the plutonium facility, holding hearings in Santa Fe and in recent years identifying imminent and “major deficiencies” in the building that could put the public at risk in the event of an earthquake. The lab sits on an active and complex geological fault system capable of causing a high magnitude quake.

    The Energy Department’s order is the latest effort to limit transparency and weaken the board’s ability to conduct oversight, experts and critics say. And it represents another step by the Trump administration to stall or halt the work done by advisory boards and committees across the federal government, including a scientific advisory board at the Environmental Protection Agency and several of the Department of Labor’s advisory committees established to protect worker safety and health.

    “This administration is very regressive,” said Robert Alvarez, who helped draft the legislation that created the board in the 1980s as a senate staff expert for Sen. John Glenn, D-Ohio, and subsequently served as senior policy adviser for former Energy Secretary Bill Richardson. “We shouldn’t have to wait for something to blow up or catch fire in order to pay attention to a safety problem.”

    The Department of Energy did not respond to multiple requests for comment, but said in a presentation that the order will increase efficiency and decrease costs. “This order does not hinder cooperation with the board or to prevent them from accomplishing their safety oversight responsibilities,” the presentation said. A spokesman for the safety board also declined comment on the order, saying it was in the Energy Department’s purview. The spokesman said the board and staff are waiting to see how it “shakes out.”

    The five-member board was formed in 1988 near the close of the Cold War, as the public and Congress began to question the lack of accountability at the Department of Energy and its predecessor agencies, which since the end of the Manhattan Project had made their own rules and been entirely self-regulating. At the time, there were reports of widespread radiological contamination at the Rocky Flats Plant in Colorado and problems at other nuclear facilities. The board’s formation also came on the heels of the Chernobyl nuclear disaster.

    Chernobyl, Alvarez said, showed the lax conditions in which nuclear power and materials were being manufactured both in the then-Soviet Union and the United States, and the calamity that could arise from an accident. The board was born out of that understanding, and now relies on a staff of more than 100, several of whom are stationed at lab sites. These staffers create weekly one-page reports that outline mishaps and near-misses and help inform larger recommendations.

    The board does not have regulatory power, but for the first two decades of its life, all of its recommendations were adopted by the energy secretary.

    Now, Alvarez said, the Department of Energy is trying to “isolate and fence off” the board’s access, part of a “constant effort to chip away at the ability of the board to do oversight.”

    Sen. Tom Udall, D-N.M., said in an email that the board is integral to New Mexico’s weapons labs. The board also oversees facilities in California, Washington state, South Carolina and other states.

    “We have seen too many serious safety and security lapses at DOE nuclear sites to accept any attempts to weaken” the board, Udall said, adding that he wants to preserve the board’s “critical role as an independent watchdog for public health and safety.”

    He said he will be asking the Department of Energy for a “full account” of how the changes will affect worker safety and public health.

    The safety board’s very existence — and its ability to provide nuclear safety information to the public — has been threatened in recent years, advocates of the board say. Last summer, for example, the board’s then-chairman proposed dissolving the board entirely. A few months later, the National Nuclear Security Administration, an arm of the Energy Department that oversees the nation’s nuclear stockpile, said less information should be made public by the board.

    Last September, the board rescinded one its long-pending recommendations, related to emergency safety, after concluding that the Department of Energy failed to understand the problems and that officials did not to intend to remedy them. The board has made no new recommendations since 2015.

    Critics of the board, including some of its former leaders, say limiting its access to information may be a good thing.

    Sean Sullivan, who retired as the board’s chairman in February, recommended last summer that the board be disbanded, saying it was a relic of the Cold War and its oversight was redundant of the work already done by the Department of Energy and the National Nuclear Security Administration. The proposal, he said, was a cost-cutting measure but it was opposed by other board members and abandoned.

    Sullivan says it makes sense for the Department of Energy to have control over all information released to the public and it has long been frustrated when the safety board autonomously made safety information public.

    For instance, Sullivan said, when board staff raised concerns in 2015 about uranium processing at the Y-12 nuclear facility in Tennessee, it was reported by a local paper and caused a headache for the nuclear security administration. Energy officials had yet to discuss problems at the site with congressional representatives from the state.

    “Government shouldn’t try to hide things,” said Sullivan, emphasizing that he was speaking as a private citizen, but “if the public gets everything, conclusions may be drawn which are inaccurate — and that in and of itself can be problematic.”

    Some of the nuclear security administration’s dissatisfaction with the board was revealed last fall when former Energy Undersecretary Frank Klotz recommended that the board stop publishing its weekly, one-page site reports from several national laboratories, including Los Alamos, online.

    Klotz, citing an article about nuclear safety problems at Los Alamos, published in September in The New Mexican, said the reports were unflattering and might discourage workers from bringing issues to light in the future (even though workers are unnamed in the reports), the Center for Public Integrity reported.

    Current acting board chairman Bruce Hamilton drew up a proposal recommending the board staff make weekly reports orally to board members, so as to avoid public embarrassment, but it was not adopted and the reports are still available. Around the same time, all Energy Department staff were required to undergo training to “control” the release of unclassified information.

    David Jonas, a Washington, D.C., lawyer who served as general counsel for both the National Nuclear Security Administration and the safety board, said there have long been disagreements between the board and the Department of Energy. But there’s never before been such explicit limits on what the safety board can access, as outlined in the order, he said.

    “The defense board is going to end up getting a little less information based on this,” he said.

    The statute establishing the safety board explicitly gave board members and staff powers of investigation and said the secretary of energy should cooperate fully with the board and provide it “with ready access to such facilities, personnel, and information as the Board considers necessary to carry out its responsibilities.”

    The new order appears to add caveats to how the law is carried out. Board members can no longer speak to lab staff without permission from the Department of Energy. The order may also make it difficult for them to access records related to how much radiation exposure workers receive.

    While the statute that established the board technically trumps the order, the document gives the Department of Energy “more power to resist the defense board requests” and as a result will delay the process of getting information to the safety board, Jonas said.

    He anticipates a legal fight, saying, “It’s a mess.”

    Even before the start of the Trump administration, the Department of Energy had been tightening control over information released to the public.

    In January 2017, while Barack Obama was still president, the Energy Department deleted several requirements for what types of incidents laboratory managers must report to a federal database used by the safety board to review problems at laboratories. Beginning that fall, labs no longer had to report certain potential safety problems or provide as much information about “near-miss” accidents.

    The impact of the change is already apparent. Under the old reporting requirements, the Los Alamos lab detailed 103 incidents in 2016 and 77 incidents in the first nine months of 2017. Under the new order, Los Alamos reported just 13 incidents for the last three months of 2017 and 28 for the first six and a half months of 2018.

    Sullivan, on behalf of the board, wrote a letter to Energy Secretary Rick Perry in May 2017 saying the new requirements “negatively affect safety oversight” and reduce nuclear facilities’ ability to learn from mistakes. (Sullivan personally voted against sending the letter.) Perry declined to make changes, saying the new rules still ensure “safety oversight is not degraded at defense nuclear facilities.”

    The safety board voted last month to hold up to three public hearings beginning in late August on the intent of the new order and how it might impact access to information. Hamilton, the board chairman, was the only member to vote against holding the hearings.
    Yeah...this isn't a bit scary or concerning. This administrations hostility towards transparency continues to be scary.

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    So naturally Trump is yelling 4.1% GDP growth from the rooftops, going on Hannity, etc.

    But, here's the thing: funny story.

    The CRFB says the reason GDP growth was 4.1% in April-June was the sheer number of people rushing to buy US products before the tariffs slammed down. According to their report, that accounted for 1.4%...leaving Trump with 2.7%. He's bragging about high volume of sales under a Going Out Of Business banner.

    "So what? 4.1% is still the rate he promised and he finally did it one quarter so he can do it forever! It's better than Obama ever did!"

    Oh, you mean that Trump Jr. quote that Obama never broke 2%. That's laughably false, Also, Obama hit 5.2% in 2014.

    A spike in sales is a short-term benefit, no mistake. Let's see what the next post-tariff quarter brings.

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    And Faux News is reporting on Obama grants as their top news story.

    My god they are truly state media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    So naturally Trump is yelling 4.1% GDP growth from the rooftops, going on Hannity, etc.

    But, here's the thing: funny story.

    The CRFB says the reason GDP growth was 4.1% in April-June was the sheer number of people rushing to buy US products before the tariffs slammed down. According to their report, that accounted for 1.4%...leaving Trump with 2.7%. He's bragging about high volume of sales under a Going Out Of Business banner.

    "So what? 4.1% is still the rate he promised and he finally did it one quarter so he can do it forever! It's better than Obama ever did!"

    Oh, you mean that Trump Jr. quote that Obama never broke 2%. That's laughably false, Also, Obama hit 5.2% in 2014.

    A spike in sales is a short-term benefit, no mistake. Let's see what the next post-tariff quarter brings.
    Sounds like the stable genius and his band of sycophants picked the wrong fucking quarter to push their GDP growth "success".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    Sounds like the stable genius and his band of sycophants picked the wrong fucking quarter to push their GDP growth "success".
    Naw, see they just need to keep on creating more tariffs every quarter, then more people will buy US goods, and the GDP will soar!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    Naw, see they just need to keep on creating more tariffs every quarter, then more people will buy US goods, and the GDP will soar!
    Bragging about the amount you sell at a Going Out of Business sale is pretty pathetic.

    It's worth noting that the CRFB in an extensive, well-researched article, point out the amount of this GDP growth that's directly from two sources:
    a) the surge you mentioned, which is being partially mitigated by that $12 billion farmer boost, and
    b) one-shot federal stimulus deficit spending

    Both combine to the US buying up its own stuff, inflating the GDP at the cost of the taxpayer and increased inflation. The deficit is going nowhere but up.

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    #walkawayfromtrump

    A Fetus is not a person under the 14th amendment.

    Christians are Forced Birth Fascists against Human Rights who indoctrinate and groom children. Prove me wrong.

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    nice to see the dems join trumps plan for oil and gas drilling on public land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.propublica.org/article/n...administration



    Yeah...this isn't a bit scary or concerning. This administrations hostility towards transparency continues to be scary.
    Is Professor Rick "Meats" Perry still running the DoE? I've lost track of who's left at this point.

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