Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Captain N]

And even though we now have confirmation he blabbed about classified info, Trumpist cultists still won't care.

Based on a few different social media pages it's the same excuse. "The Democrats and MSM are just trying to smear The Best President Ever because he wasn't afraid to tell it like it was!"

[Breccia]

In the ongoing saga of why Republicans should not be trusted with classified information, Donald blabbed about a LOT more classified information than previously known.

Republicans yes, Trump is an impulsive child. I would trust Romney or McConnell.

[Sunseeker]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...tt-1234859957/



In the ongoing saga of why Republicans should not be trusted with classified information, Donald blabbed about a LOT more classified information than previously known.

Trump's getting AWFUL close to getting thrown in front of a tribunal as a traitor.

[Resurgo]

I am looking forward to the Cohen-Trump face-off, but I worry it may not happen. Cohen will show, he missed last time due to medical issues, but he's motivated. Trump, by contrast, was told "stop commenting during the witness’ testimony" by a judge, to his face, already. I get that some people here think Trump won't be thrown in jail for contempt, I'm not ready to disagree with that, but he can be ejected from the courtroom. Cohen knows this, and Trump's lawyers know this. I think Trump's lawyers know this is a make-or-break for them and discrediting Cohen is mandatory, and they can't do it if Trump fucks it up while Cohen troll grins the entire time.

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So...Trump's not even trying for privilege, I see.

"So who said Powell was Trump's lawyer?"

I'm not sure, probably nobody recently. Maybe at the time there was some confusion, but anyone serious by now has the right idea.

Something something …there’s a tweet for that…
https://imgur.com/a/o7wYAok

[DarkTZeratul]

Based on a few different social media pages it's the same excuse. "The Democrats and MSM are just trying to smear The Best President Ever because he wasn't afraid to tell it like it was!"

Also "he's the president so technically it's legal for him to tell whoever he wants," which isn't really the complaint so much as that it's a really bad fucking idea to be doing that.

[Jtbrig7390]

Trump's getting AWFUL close to getting thrown in front of a tribunal as a traitor.

I would legit pay to see it.

if it was a democrat they would be trialed and hanged by now for being a traitor.

[Kaleredar]

I would legit pay to see it.

if it was a democrat they would be trialed and hanged by now for being a traitor.

I’m not so sure about that, but I am sure there would be a unified, unending cacophony of right-wing voices asking for such.

Generally however that is unlikely to happen, as the Democratic Party is much better at keeping their representatives accountable for malicious actions taken in office, whereas the right-wing response is generally to either ignore or double-down on such actions.

[zorkuus]

ROFL. Like clockwork. Now the orange turd is claiming Sydney Powell was never his lawyer.
I just can't with this guy...

How long until he will deny ever having met Rudy Ghouliani and John Eastman?

[Paranoid Android]

ROFL. Like clockwork. Now the orange turd is claiming Sydney Powell was never his lawyer.
I just can't with this guy...

How long until he will deny ever having met Rudy Ghouliani and John Eastman?

Amazing this person was taken seriously anytime. I mean just boiling it down to if this person was working above or below you in a job or just irl, why would you every want to be close to this person.

[ringpriest]

Also "he's the president so technically it's legal for him to tell whoever he wants," which isn't really the complaint so much as that it's a really bad fucking idea to be doing that.

Yes, the President is both a classifying authority and the ultimate decision point for what is and is not classified, but that doesn't give him carte blanche to blab whatever he wants. He can order declassification on his whim, and fire anyone who fails to carry it out. And no one is going to charge a sitting President for violating process (that's what impeachment is for). But Donald isn't a sitting President now, and "blabbing to billionaire buddies" isn't going to be part of the "duties of the office".

[zorkuus]

Amazing this person was taken seriously anytime. I mean just boiling it down to if this person was working above or below you in a job or just irl, why would you every want to be close to this person.

Are you talking about tRump or Powell?

[Breccia]

ROFL. Like clockwork. Now the orange turd is claiming Sydney Powell was never his lawyer.

Anything Trump says when he's not on the stand is useless, but, I think it's possible he never actually hired Powell.

Irrelevant.

You can conspire to commit crimes with lawyers you know but don't hire.

You can conspire with lawyers hired by other people.

And, if he does say this on the stand, nobody gets privilege.

[zorkuus]

Anything Trump says when he's not on the stand is useless, but, I think it's possible he never actually hired Powell.

She was tRump campaign lawyer. Yes, it's irrelevant if he claims she wasn't his PERSONAL lawyer.

[Breccia]

She was tRump campaign lawyer.

Actually, that's interesting. I wonder what would be the difference between
1) Trump hiring her personally
2) Trump hiring her via his campaign (which is not a WH job)
3) Trump never hiring her, but working with her anyhow
in this criminal case. It's pretty clear there's no relevant privilege no matter what.

[DarkTZeratul]

Yes, the President is both a classifying authority and the ultimate decision point for what is and is not classified, but that doesn't give him carte blanche to blab whatever he wants.

As far as I know, actually, it does. He can't declassify stuff on a whim, let alone do it "with his mind," but he is allowed to grant access at will, which is essentially what blabbing to Russian intelligence or his billionaire buddies is.

Still really realy bad that the man is treating top secret information as something to brag about to impress people, but not technically illegal to have done so while in office (if he's still doing it now, though, that's an entirely different story).

[Breccia]

"According to Pratt, Trump shared a lot with him, such as information about U.S. bombings in Iraq before they were publicly reported. “I hadn’t even heard it, it hadn’t even been on the news yet, and he said, ‘I just bombed Iraq today,'” Pratt said Trump told him."

Trump is now calling this Fake News.

Of course, everyone, even Trump supporters, know two things:
1) Literally anyone is more trustworthy than Donald Trump. Donald Trump could tell me the sky was blue and I would laugh in his face without looking up, and quite frankly, being wrong wouldn't bother me, because I went with the odds.
2) Nothing Trump says means anything unless he's on the stand.

I don't think the Pratt thing will enter a courtroom, but I do think it's interesting that Trump yelling FAKE NEWS has hit so many diminishing returns it may as well be horizontal.

[Edge-]

Still really realy bad that the man is treating top secret information as something to brag about to impress people, but not technically illegal to have done so while in office (if he's still doing it now, though, that's an entirely different story).

Very much so. 'Member that time he posted a picture of an Iranian missile site or something? A full resolution image of a picture taken by a spy satellite that isn't supposed to exist? The kind that, should the US government ever publicly share pictures from it reportedly messes up a bit so that the capabilities are less easy to figure out.

I still 'memba

[Gorsameth]

Remember that time Trump exposed Mossad assets by directly talking about their operations to the Russians and Israel had to re-evaluate if they should be sharing intelligence with the US.

pepperidge farm remembers.

[Lynarii]

As far as I know, actually, it does. He can't declassify stuff on a whim, let alone do it "with his mind," but he is allowed to grant access at will, which is essentially what blabbing to Russian intelligence or his billionaire buddies is.

Still really realy bad that the man is treating top secret information as something to brag about to impress people, but not technically illegal to have done so while in office (if he's still doing it now, though, that's an entirely different story).

This is my understanding as well. While he is in office, it is not illegal for him to share classified information with people of his choosing. Maybe it SHOULD be illegal, but it is not. If he does it after he leaves office though, then he gets in trouble.

The check against the president doing that kind of thing is supposed to be that someone that dumb would not get elected to the position to begin with. As we all know, that check failed pretty hard.

[Edge-]

Remember that time Trump exposed Mossad assets by directly talking about their operations to the Russians and Israel had to re-evaluate if they should be sharing intelligence with the US.

pepperidge farm remembers.

BTW this continues to be why I'm so fuckin annoyed with all the ALIEN bullshit in the past year or so, even before the paper mache alien in Mexico.

Because like, does any human being, currently alive on earth and capable of coherent thought, actually think that Donald wouldn't be blabbing about aliens by now? Do you (the royal you) think he could use "WE HAVE ALIENS!" as the ultimate shiny, distracting object and just patiently and strategically sit on it rather than posting it to social media IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE CRUISE CONTROL IS BACK ON, LADS

This is why the brief alien hysteria in the US, especially the mostly known idiots in Congress pushing for that nonsense, pissed me off so much. Because like, we already fucking know. If we had aliens and shit, and POTUS is told about this fact, we'd fuckin know by now.

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I am 100% ready for Donald to show up in court and claim he doesn't know who this "Donald J. Trump" poster on Twitter is and he doesn't recall this at all and that's totally normal and fine because this must be fake news as he's a very stable genius with the best of memories, his good friend Jeffrey Epstein told him so. Or it was a totally different Sidney Powell, it was actually Disney Powell!