Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Gorsameth]

I'm going to assume you meant the majority of voters in the GOP primaries because according to the last two presidential races the majority of voters overall aren't buying his bullshit.

Majority of Republican voters I meant, yes currently fortunately its 'only' ~47% of all voters who are...

[cubby]

CNN has a breakdown:

Here's the breakdown:
$16,171,000 to Ruby Freeman for defamation.
$16,998,000 to Shaye Moss for defamation.
$20 million to Freeman for emotional distress.
$20 million to Moss for emotional distress.
$75 million in punitive damages to both plaintiffs.

Thrall Kaioken Go'El, that's a lot of punative damages. Yes, it'll be appealled, but holy shit, you can't send a much clearer message than this.
@cubby you might want to see this!

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I have more from Giuliani's lawyer.



I do like that earnest plea at the end. "Please don't find my client liable for his highly partisan crimes, because that would be partisan."

This is fantastic.

[Vankrys]

FOX News defends Trump's Nazi-esque language by saying "yes, what he said was full of hate, but you have to understand--"

Why is it that for the past 8 years, every time Trump opens his mouth, there's someone right after going "What the president really meant to say is..."

As the saying goes, when they tell us who they are, believe them.

[Gelannerai]

Why is it that for the past 8 years, every time Trump opens his mouth, there's someone right after going "What the president really meant to say is..."

As the saying goes, when they tell us who they are, believe them.

Yeah, always good for a laugh when GOP voters tell you they like Trump/Bannon/Cruz/Gaetz/Greene/shit-sandwich because they “tell it like it is,” but then immediately have to act as a Fascist-to-English translator to try to cover for the aforementioned trash.

[Gabriel]

If Trump wins I'll be expecting all the 2A nutters to actually keep their word about opposing tyranny.

[Twdft]

If Trump wins I'll be expecting all the 2A nutters to actually keep their word about opposing tyranny.

It's only 1 day, not much they can do about it due to travel time.

[zorkuus]

If Trump wins I'll be expecting all the 2A nutters to actually keep their word about opposing tyranny.

I'm pretty sure that if the dictator-to-be told them to hand over their guns (and which dictator wouldn't?), these cultists would do it gladly.

[Gabriel]

I'm pretty sure that if the dictator-to-be told them to hand over their guns (and which dictator wouldn't?), these cultists would do it gladly.

Not so sure about that. The gun nutters support Trump because they think there is a chance that he will let them shoot the gays and the trans and the blacks, but if Trump came after their guns they would first bluescreen and then revolt against him.

[Templar 331]

Not so sure about that. The gun nutters support Trump because they think there is a chance that he will let them shoot the gays and the trans and the blacks, but if Trump came after their guns they would first bluescreen and then revolt against him.

I feel like he wouldn't take their guns but ask them to give him their guns. And a lot of them would "blue screen" (lol, very accurate) but there would be some that would give them up if it meant they were hurting certain people.

"Our ICE agents, very fine, very nice agents, who love this country, need your help! They don't have guns! Biden, the most worst businessman ever, who can't even get his kids into a successful business, who doesn't know how to balance the budget, doesn't have enough money to stop the illegals!"

[Edge-]

https://themessenger.com/politics/tr...otice-withdraw

Attorneys for Trevian Kutti, one of Donald Trump's co-defendants in the Georgia election racketeering case, filed notice on Monday night they no longer intend to represent the embattled publicist who has gained notoriety for her outlandish public statements.

The three-page notice provides no rationale for her Chicago and Atlanta-based lawyers seeking to jump ship. Reached by phone, Darryl Cohen, Kutti’s Atlanta-based attorney, said that “in order to have a good lawyer-client relationship, the client has to listen, the client has to be on board and you have to be paid.”

“All these things have to happen,” Cohen added. “I'm not saying any of those things did or didn't happen, but you can extrapolate.”

Cohen, insisting he was speaking generically, continued: “This case is so unusual and so high profile with everybody looking at it under a microscope, that you've got to be very careful as to what you say because you never know who's coming after you.”

Kutti’s Chicago-based lawyers did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Kutti also did not immediately respond to an emailed request for comment or a message on Instagram.

A one-time publicist for Ye, the rapper and singer-songwriter formerly known as Kanye West, Kutti faces racketeering and witness intimidation charges in Fulton County. She has pleaded not guilty and is free on a $75,000 bond.

However, her bond agreement may be in peril, following her making statements on Instagram live that appeared to threaten Fulton County election worker Ruby Freeman.

"There's a woman sitting somewhere who knows this whole thing is a lie. Who knows I never did anything to her. Who knows I never. Who knows she begged me for help. There's a woman sitting somewhere who knows that I'm going to f**k her whole life up when this is done," Kutti said in the Instagram Live video.

Kutti has also posted claims on social media that she would be tapped to serve as Trump’s press secretary were he to be elected in 2024.

One of her most recent posts on Instagram from Monday appeared to show her with Jacob Chansley, otherwise known as the QAnon shaman who served jail time for his participation in the Jan. 6 Capitol Riot, flipping off the camera. The photo was seemingly taken at the America First Fest, a MAGA-centric convention taking place in Phoenix, AZ and organized by Turning Point USA, a conservative advocacy nonprofit.

Gee, it's no wonder that lawyers don't want to work with MAGA folks.

They don't listen to legal advice and frequently specifically do the opposite of what they were advised by their lawyers to do. Shame they'll end up with dogshit quality lawyers because anyone remotely competent won't want to deal with nightmare clients. Not really, though, these people are genuinely awful and deserve to fuck themselves over with their own voluntary behavior.

[Breccia]

“in order to have a good lawyer-client relationship, the client has to listen, the client has to be on board and you have to be paid.”

I feel like, if we were to 80's-movie-montage this entire Trump ShitShow thread, this would be the chorus of the rock balladn playing over it.

[Gabriel]

I feel like he wouldn't take their guns but ask them to give him their guns. And a lot of them would "blue screen" (lol, very accurate) but there would be some that would give them up if it meant they were hurting certain people.

"Our ICE agents, very fine, very nice agents, who love this country, need your help! They don't have guns! Biden, the most worst businessman ever, who can't even get his kids into a successful business, who doesn't know how to balance the budget, doesn't have enough money to stop the illegals!"

I'm 100% sure that 99% of gun nutters support Trump only as long as he doesn't step on their right to own and fingerfuck firearms.

The moment that Trump goes on tape calling for the rednecks to disarm is the moment he will get a bullet to the head.

Like... They might hate the left and the minorities, but they love their guns more.

[Lenonis]

Seems pretty reasonable: You've been found liable for defamation and owe $150M, you should probably stop repeating the defamatory statements.

I truly don't understand what is going on with Rudy, and I'm starting to seriously consider that there is something legit wrong with him that isn't just "Hi I'm in a cult."

Because this is pretty much nuts - for him to get slapped with a judgement I have no doubt he can't pay and then IMMEDIATELY turn around and say "yeah I meant it all and I'll say it again" is insane.

[Kaleredar]

I'm pretty sure that if the dictator-to-be told them to hand over their guns (and which dictator wouldn't?), these cultists would do it gladly.

I doubt it. I remember very early on in trump’s presidency that he was rolling the idea around about assault weapons bans. It didn’t go very far and the right wing dragged him for considering it.

These 2A nutters having guns doesnt affect trump’s goals in any particular way: self-enrichment. And even if they fall on hard economic times while trump and his toadies are living large, they’ve been conditioned to blame the minorities for their plight, instead of the rich people with money.

[shimerra]

I truly don't understand what is going on with Rudy, and I'm starting to seriously consider that there is something legit wrong with him that isn't just "Hi I'm in a cult."

Because this is pretty much nuts - for him to get slapped with a judgement I have no doubt he can't pay and then IMMEDIATELY turn around and say "yeah I meant it all and I'll say it again" is insane.

At this point only two things make sense. He has dementia or some sort of age related degenerative mental disease or he realizes he is so thoroughly screwed either way he might as well act out even harder because burning at a million and one degrees is basically the same as a million degrees.

[Edge-]

I truly don't understand what is going on with Rudy, and I'm starting to seriously consider that there is something legit wrong with him that isn't just "Hi I'm in a cult."

Because this is pretty much nuts - for him to get slapped with a judgement I have no doubt he can't pay and then IMMEDIATELY turn around and say "yeah I meant it all and I'll say it again" is insane.

There are a group of conservatives who genuinely seem to believe if you can create your own reality through force of will alone, and if they repeat the lies that form the foundation of their reality enough then they'll be true.

[gondrin]

I'm 100% sure that 99% of gun nutters support Trump only as long as he doesn't step on their right to own and fingerfuck firearms.

The moment that Trump goes on tape calling for the rednecks to disarm is the moment he will get a bullet to the head.

Like... They might hate the left and the minorities, but they love their guns more.

If anyone looks at Trump and guns, he has NO issue with wanting to restrict or outright ban guns. Look at the bumpstock ban. The same people that would vote for him were outraged at that even though it was a sensible ban.

[Gabriel]

If anyone looks at Trump and guns, he has NO issue with wanting to restrict or outright ban guns. Look at the bumpstock ban. The same people that would vote for him were outraged at that even though it was a sensible ban.

People who vote for Trump are not sensible people.

[Edge-]

If anyone looks at Trump and guns, he has NO issue with wanting to restrict or outright ban guns. Look at the bumpstock ban. The same people that would vote for him were outraged at that even though it was a sensible ban.

Was gonna point this out. The Obama administration looked into banning bump stocks and at the time the ATF determined that such a restriction was outside of their authority.

Then Donald just went and did it which I applaud in many senses, but highlights how little understanding he and his team bring to the table as well as their general disinterest in Constitutionality.

[Flarelaine]

I truly don't understand what is going on with Rudy, and I'm starting to seriously consider that there is something legit wrong with him that isn't just "Hi I'm in a cult."

Because this is pretty much nuts - for him to get slapped with a judgement I have no doubt he can't pay and then IMMEDIATELY turn around and say "yeah I meant it all and I'll say it again" is insane.

The party of personal responsibility has gone so long without being held accountable that they cannot even process when it is happening any more.

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Was gonna point this out. The Obama administration looked into banning bump stocks and at the time the ATF determined that such a restriction was outside of their authority.

Then Donald just went and did it which I applaud in many senses, but highlights how little understanding he and his team bring to the table as well as their general disinterest in Constitutionality.

Eh. Some of the time all doing something takes is not knowing it can't be done.