Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Slirith]

I'm losing my fucking mind about how these fucking boot lickers are so pathetic that not only they gargle Trump's cum and ball sweat, but they even try to adopt his butchery of the English language.



"a President Donald Trump" - What is this fucking sentence? Is "President Donald Trump" one of several different "Presidents Donald Trump"? What is that fucking article doing there? Like with Hunter Biden the article refers to a type of person...but how the fuck does that work with "a President Donald Trump". Also the obsession with endlessly referring to him as "president".

Who the fuck speaks like this? What does this even fucking mean? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH!

Well, the idiot did say he loves the uneducated.

[Breccia]

FOX News follows Hannity and will host a Trump town hall while CNN has a GOP debate.

Once again, the Trump cowardice is on full display, and FOX News is just rolling over for him. While the FOX and CNN points offset, I still feel like...

(checks page count)

Who'd we lose this time?

[DarkTZeratul]

Who'd we lose this time?

I assume the guy who said he was deleting his account in the Russia thread, but then kept responding because apparently he just had to have the last word despite saying goodbye at least three times, actually did so.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

So only Michaelangelo the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle showed up? So is there a political rift between Leonardo, Donatello, Raphael? Are these 3 Biden supporters? Never Trumpers? I have to know.

Well, Donatello is a scientist. So the Trump cult wouldn't have accepted him there anyway.

[Ivanstone]

FOX News follows Hannity and will host a Trump town hall while CNN has a GOP debate.

Once again, the Trump cowardice is on full display, and FOX News is just rolling over for him. While the FOX and CNN points offset, I still feel like...

(checks page count)

Who'd we lose this time?

Looks like Chonogo.

[Cthulhu 2020]

So Fox (not calling them News) is reporting on Trump re: Epstein lists. They're pre empting the release of the flight logs by saying that there's no direct evidence that Trump was involved in any illegal activities.

My brother in Christ the whole entire point of the conservative shit show around the Epstein flight logs was this assumption that everyone on said flight logs was probably a pedophile. Now you've found out that Trump flew with Epstein numerous times so you gotta get ahead of it and say that there's no evidence he diddled children. Despite, you know... we know he did on other occasions so why would he have reason to hold back on Epstein's plane?



In other news, I find it funny that MAGA got upset over Green Day changing the lyrics of American Idiot. They whine about rock artists "going woke". Brother have you listened to a single Green Day song and critically thought about the lyrics? I especially love the ones who think MAGA and Trump are the modern version of punk, they believe THEY'RE the counter culture, because nothing says counter culture punk rock like simping tax breaks for billionaires and claiming you're "normal" while LGBTQ are the aberrant people. Trying to claim you're the norm is the opposite of counter culture.

[Kaleredar]

So Fox (not calling them News) is reporting on Trump re: Epstein lists. They're pre empting the release of the flight logs by saying that there's no direct evidence that Trump was involved in any illegal activities.

My brother in Christ the whole entire point of the conservative shit show around the Epstein flight logs was this assumption that everyone on said flight logs was probably a pedophile. Now you've found out that Trump flew with Epstein numerous times so you gotta get ahead of it and say that there's no evidence he diddled children. Despite, you know... we know he did on other occasions so why would he have reason to hold back on Epstein's plane?



In other news, I find it funny that MAGA got upset over Green Day changing the lyrics of American Idiot. They whine about rock artists "going woke". Brother have you listened to a single Green Day song and critically thought about the lyrics? I especially love the ones who think MAGA and Trump are the modern version of punk, they believe THEY'RE the counter culture, because nothing says counter culture punk rock like simping tax breaks for billionaires and claiming you're "normal" while LGBTQ are the aberrant people. Trying to claim you're the norm is the opposite of counter culture.

These are the people that unironically rocked out to “killing in the name of.”

Trump used “fortunate son” and “rocking in the free world” at his rallies.

Critical thinking is not their strong suit, especially when it comes to music.

[Dontrike]

In other news, I find it funny that MAGA got upset over Green Day changing the lyrics of American Idiot. They whine about rock artists "going woke". Brother have you listened to a single Green Day song and critically thought about the lyrics? I especially love the ones who think MAGA and Trump are the modern version of punk, they believe THEY'RE the counter culture, because nothing says counter culture punk rock like simping tax breaks for billionaires and claiming you're "normal" while LGBTQ are the aberrant people. Trying to claim you're the norm is the opposite of counter culture.

Wasn't American Idiot originally written as a sort of protest song against W's administration?

[Odinfrost]

Wasn't American Idiot originally written as a sort of protest song against W's administration?

It was, at best, a criticism of that admin

[Endus]

Wasn't American Idiot originally written as a sort of protest song against W's administration?

Released 2004, right in his time in office. But it's more a generic condemnation of America as a nation;

"Don't wanna be an American idiotOne nation controlled by the media
Information age of hysteria
It's calling out to idiot America"

What I found hilarious is that Green Day followed that song up on Dick Clark's Rocking Eve with their other song from the same album, Holiday. Whoever looked at that setlist clearly didn't know the lyrics. Green Day showed up make a pretty pointed condemnation of America, and I don't think those running it or most of the crowd even realized what they were doing. It is a protest song, and directly calls out "President Gasman" in the lyrics and his attacks on critics.

Those songs have aged really well, honestly. The issues they speak to have, if anything, gotten worse.

[Pendulous]

Released 2004, right in his time in office. But it's more a generic condemnation of America as a nation;

.

Incubus said the same thing about Megalomaniac, which came out in December 2003. But the music video sort of squashed that thought.

[Cthulhu 2020]

One thing I find particularly funny is these Trumpers/MAGA conservatives say "It's not punk to support big government!" The reality is the song is a rejection of conservative politics and not necessarily an endorsement of Democrat politics. But MAGA can only see things two ways, with us or liberal dem commies.

[Paranoid Android]

O’BRIEN, TRUMP DISCUSS TEAMSTER ISSUES AHEAD OF RANK-AND-FILE ROUNDTABLE

https://twitter.com/Teamsters/status...MrPYrMWfg&s=19

Sorry for caps, but it's how posted on Teamsters' Twitter.

So the person who openly says unions are the enemy and villifies unions as destroying America, his words. The Republican party as a whole might be worse. Remember the asshole Senator from Oklahoma. He is the norm.

Scary he meets and more scary that maybe this dude sees Trump might win. Of course he don't know, but bad feeling that a big group of Teamster members are Trumpers.

[Captain N]

Scary he meets and more scary that maybe this dude sees Trump might win. Of course he don't know, but bad feeling that a big group of Teamster members are Trumpers.

There's a lot of union workers who are Pro-Trump. I work with a lot of rail workers who think that Trump would have allowed the Rail Strike and somehow it would have been beneficial to them and the country....in the middle of a world wide supply chain issue. They're adamant that Biden and Democrats as a whole are the anti-Labor party because somehow paying dues like taxes is theft. I don't know...I work with some really fucking stupid people.

[Edge-]

https://twitter.com/Teamsters/status...MrPYrMWfg&s=19

Sorry for caps, but it's how posted on Teamsters' Twitter.

So the person who openly says unions are the enemy and villifies unions as destroying America, his words. The Republican party as a whole might be worse. Remember the asshole Senator from Oklahoma. He is the norm.

Scary he meets and more scary that maybe this dude sees Trump might win. Of course he don't know, but bad feeling that a big group of Teamster members are Trumpers.

I mean, the Teamsters aren't exactly an exclusively blue/Democrat union. Their president would absolutely be failing in his job if he didn't meet with both candidates and at least make a public showing of doing so in good faith, even knowing the parties and individuals respective history. Republican Teamsters, even if we may disagree with them, deserve to have their union represent their interests as well. We know there's a not insignificant group of Republican/Trump voters within unions.

Ultimately you have to look at their history as well. The last time the officially endorsed a Republican was George W. in 1988, and they were apparently notable for being the only union to do so at the time - https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...582-story.html

However since then they've endorsed the Democratic candidate in every election beginning with Bill Clinton's 1992 campaign. Furthermore you can look at their Open Secrets page to see that they overwhelmingly donate to Democratic candidates - https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/tea...andscycle=2020

Sometimes a meeting is just a meeting and not more than just a meeting.

[Breccia]

So leaving aside Trump being named in the Epstein docs -- yeah, that's a good look for someone desperately trying to hold onto staunch religious types -- what else happened to Team Trump today?

1) Known Trump cultist Kim Davis was fined $260,000 in legal fees of the people she illegally denied marriage licenses to.

"Didn't we have a thread about this months ago?"

Yes, but this is a new ruling with more damages.

2) Trump was caught by WaPo citing the Gateway Pundit, specifically,

The story had all the elements of a blockbuster crime saga: burner phones, semiautomatic weapons, silencers and bags of prepaid cash cards. “NOW WE HAVE PROOF!” blared the headline on the right-wing website Gateway Pundit. “Massive 2020 Voter Fraud Uncovered in Michigan.”

"Um, I imagine Trump was desperate in Nov 2020 and--"

But for Gateway Pundit, which is run out of its founder’s home and whose small staff produces stories that help set the agenda for Donald Trump’s most ardent followers, the August story provided weeks of headlines that radiated across right-wing media and were repeatedly amplified by pro-Trump influencers. That’s despite the fact that it was published nearly three years after the election — and after Meisch’s staff had thwarted any fraud.

"...oh."

Yeah, the clerk cited by the Gateway Pundit and therefore Trump had personally said “There were no fraudulent ballots. Not a single one that anyone in my office was aware of.” in reference to that piece.

3) FOX News *ding* citeda psychic on their channel and--

"That can't possibly be accurate."

And then brought her on camera.

"...you're making this up."

On his primetime show Tuesday, Jesse Watters said he had recently received a “delightful reading” from a fortune teller at a dinner party.

“And when I asked her about Trump, she said there’d be a grave injustice this fall, and we may not even have an election,” he said.

He introduced Paula Roberts, “The English Psychic,” to give a second opinion on what’s in store for Trump.

Roberts, whose website describes her as a psychic, clairvoyant and seer, pulled an ominous-looking tarot card from her deck.

“Uh oh,” Watters said.

“I mean, I do recognize that I’m at Fox TV,” she prefaced her reading.

“A sense of loss,” she predicted. “A sense of loss, but it’s very specific,” she continued stammering, ”no, let me move on.”

“It’s as if he may be thinking more about what he’s lost and not still taking full advantage of what he still has,” she concluded.

Watters replied: “That’s a great interpretation, Paula.”

"...no."

FOX News link with video, and I'm giving myself another point *ding* for it.

4) Trump, likely fearing his shrinking poll numbers, takes a swing at Nikki Haley.

The 30-second ad, viewed by NBC News, marks the first time the campaign has gone after Haley, a former Trump administration official, on the airwaves in the state ahead of its Jan. 23 primary.

The ad tries to connect Haley’s immigration positions with those of President Joe Biden by arguing that both opposed “Trump’s border wall” and “Trump’s visitor ban from terrorist nations.”

“Confirmed warnings of terrorists sneaking in through our southern border,” the ad’s narrator says. “Yet Haley joined Biden in opposing Trump’s visitor ban from terrorist nations. Haley’s weakness puts us in grave danger. Trump’s strength protects us.”

"Uh...wasn't that visitor ban declared unConstitutional?"

Yes, but to be fair, eventually SCOTUS ruled 5-4 on it, June 2018. So it's impossible to say it wasn't questionable, no matter how you viewed it. And Haley never voted or anything on it, there wasn't anything to vote on anyhow.

[CastletonSnob]

Trump received at least $7.8 MILLION from foreign governments when he was President.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...por-rcna132276

[Corvus]

Remember how during the covid crisis that Trump was pushing the use of hydroxychloroquine? Well, a new study put the number of hydroxychloroquine related deaths due to using it at almost 17,000. And you can put most of that on Trump spreading misinformation.

[Edge-]

Remember how during the covid crisis that Trump was pushing the use of hydroxychloroquine? Well, a new study put the number of hydroxychloroquine related deaths due to using it at almost 17,000. And you can put most of that on Trump spreading misinformation.

Funny bit about that.

My brother has a friend who was always a bit of a nutty guy and leaned conservative but was always nice. Still is super nice, but he's gone down the rabbit hole and based on some earlier political discussions with him in general (I had to explain what the White House Press Corps is, who is a part of it, why it exists, and why a POTUS puts out a daily schedule and such...literally super basic shit).

Anyways, not super long ago he was trying to get my brother to do hydroxy and was praising it as a "it's like a cleanse, it cleanse your body right out" and couldn't stop talking it up. Last time he came over he was complaining about how his stomach and digestion a pretty shit now because some apparent minor changes he made in his diet and I couldn't stop myself from quietly wondering how much of those issues may have been a result of stuffing his face with horse dewormer when he didn't even have covid.

[Xyonai]

Trump received at least $7.8 MILLION from foreign governments when he was President.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...por-rcna132276

Honestly the only thing that surprises me about this is how low that estimate seems, considering that it was:

A - From Multiple Sources

B - Over the course of two years, and...

C - Being used to try and curry favor with the fucking President of the United States.

Though this is probably just the money we know about / could be directly traced this way, who knows what the actual amount is.