Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Breccia]

The moral outrage here is so hollow you could ring it like a bell.

And yet another victim of "I never thought Trump would turn on me"

Haley either knew what she was getting into, or should have. The shock will wear off and she'll go back to trying to win over the party that has a zero percent chance of backing someone Trump called an enemy, ruining her life, her career, probably her marriage, and we'll never hear from her again. And it won't be worth it. Oh well.

[Edge-]

And yet another victim of "I never thought Trump would turn on me"

It's like she too memory-holed the whole Donald presidency. Which is especially weird since she was our ambassador to the UN during that time.

[Breccia]

Trump asks RNC to have Lara Trump co-chair.

No, really. Click the link yourselves.

If anyone out there still thinks it's not the Party of Trump -- not us, I mean actual politicians and Republicans -- they should now just admit they were wrong. It is basically impossible to say you're a Republican without being automatically a Trump supporter, even if you specifically and directly refute it, if your party moves to full-on Trump mandated control.

It may not happen. But it will.

[Edge-]

Trump asks RNC to have Lara Trump co-chair.

No, really. Click the link yourselves.

If anyone out there still thinks it's not the Party of Trump -- not us, I mean actual politicians and Republicans -- they should now just admit they were wrong. It is basically impossible to say you're a Republican without being automatically a Trump supporter, even if you specifically and directly refute it, if your party moves to full-on Trump mandated control.

It may not happen. But it will.

Republicans: We're over political dynasties!

Also Republican: Long live the Trump dynasty!

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ts-republicans



Tom Cotton: Harvard educated "elite".

Also a traitor, and incredibly stupid and dishonest individual.

Ukraine is not, and has never been a part of Nato. Just a reminder that an Ivy league degree doesn't prevent one from turning into Tom Cotton or Raphael Cruz.

Yeah GOP still running with the the "What President Trump actually meant was..." defense.

[Poopymonster]

Trump asks RNC to have Lara Trump co-chair.

No, really. Click the link yourselves.

If anyone out there still thinks it's not the Party of Trump -- not us, I mean actual politicians and Republicans -- they should now just admit they were wrong. It is basically impossible to say you're a Republican without being automatically a Trump supporter, even if you specifically and directly refute it, if your party moves to full-on Trump mandated control.

It may not happen. But it will.

Well, that will be one hypereffective way to empty their coffers.

[Breccia]

Republicans: We're over political dynasties!

Also Republican: Long live the Trump dynasty!

Well, that will be one hypereffective way to empty their coffers.

Oh sorry, forgot to mention:

Trump also endorsed his campaign senior adviser, Chris LaCivita, to effectively serve as COO.

Oh, and as for the third person:

Trump on Monday endorsed Michael Whatley, chair of the North Carolina GOP, to become the next leader of the Republican National Committee if the current chairwoman Ronna McDaniel steps down.

Whatley, who, along with Lara Trump would have to be voted on by the members of the RNC, has supported Trump's false claims of election fraud during the 2020 presidential election.

It's a full-on takeover bid. He wants both chairs and the COO.

[D Luniz]

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/show...log/rcna138367



Nikki Haley, being "shocked" that her political party won't come to the defense of her and her husband currently serving in the military.

Apparently she forgot that Donald literally made it a point to attack gold star families, and one in particular, back in 2016 and has a long history of being shitty towards veterans and their families?

Either Nikki is incredibly oblivious and gullible or she's incredibly dishonest. Or all of the above.

To paraphrase the subject of the thread. "She knew what she signed up for."

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Yeah GOP still running with the the "What President Trump actually meant was..." defense.

Wondering how long before he tries to bring back the "He talks plainly and says what he means" claims as well

[ringpriest]

Oh sorry, forgot to mention:



Oh, and as for the third person:



It's a full-on takeover bid. He wants both chairs and the COO.

The funny part is that while this will certainly help him personally and politically (more money spent on his campaign, the RNC paying more of his legal bills, and more money to his businesses), it will probably be devastating to Republican prospects downballot. There will be less money spent on key races, MAGA candidates (who do poorly in general elections) will be preferred in the remaining primaries... this has a strong possibility to be a massive trainwreck for the GOP.

[prwraith]

The funny part is that while this will certainly help him personally and politically (more money spent on his campaign, the RNC paying more of his legal bills, and more money to his businesses), it will probably be devastating to Republican prospects downballot. There will be less money spent on key races, MAGA candidates (who do poorly in general elections) will be preferred in the remaining primaries... this has a strong possibility to be a massive trainwreck for the GOP.

This is fantastic news. Let's hope Trump can finally fracture the republican party good and truly.

[The Stormbringer]

This is fantastic news. Let's hope Trump can finally fracture the republican party good and truly.

Right? Trump desperately scrambling to try to take over the GOP so he can improve his own chances at re-election could very well cause the entire Republican party to capsize. Even if he does get elected, pulling so much funding and replacing so many incumbents and other 'preferred' candidates could mean a fully Democratic controlled House and Senate. It would still be a complete fucking travesty if he somehow pulled it off, but at least he would be severely limited in what he could do.

[Kaleredar]

This is fantastic news. Let's hope Trump can finally fracture the republican party good and truly.

I think if trump loses in the 2024 election the GOP will be in very, very dire straits. Their body will be utterly fractured between impotent old-guard republicans and fervently inept MAGA republicans, all without a cogent figurehead to even vaguely rally beneath. With a trump defeat in 2024, his goose will thoroughly be cooked, and the factions will devolve into infighting while their reactionary tactics and lack of actual political goals basically cause them to implode.


However… if he WINS… all of this chaotic nonsense gets turned loose on the levels of government to plunder, yes-manify, and generally render incompetent and impotent for far-right zealots to run rampant through.

And unfortunate turning point. Lets hope that people can be rallied again to stop this… AGAIN.

[s_bushido]

I think if trump loses in the 2024 election the GOP will be in very, very dire straits. Their body will be utterly fractured between impotent old-guard republicans and fervently inept MAGA republicans, all without a cogent figurehead to even vaguely rally beneath. With a trump defeat in 2024, his goose will thoroughly be cooked, and the factions will devolve into infighting while their reactionary tactics and lack of actual political goals basically cause them to implode.

Here's the thing...it doesn't really matter how "fractured" the party gets if they still have a large enough of the population willing to vote for them that they can maintain their minoritarian power. They may suffer some losses on the national level, but they've still got more than half the states under their control.

[Gabriel]

I mean, to a certain extent, it doesn't matter what they charge. Unless you're that one guy who demanded money up front, they're not getting paid.

This continues to blow my mind.

Isn't it like... illegal to not pay someone for services you hired them for?

[Flarelaine]

This continues to blow my mind.

Isn't it like... illegal to not pay someone for services you hired them for?

It is. You can get a lawyer and sue.

[Kaleredar]

Here's the thing...it doesn't really matter how "fractured" the party gets if they still have a large enough of the population willing to vote for them that they can maintain their minoritarian power. They may suffer some losses on the national level, but they've still got more than half the states under their control.

In that scenario though I think they risk further fracture (and losses) on smaller levels between the aforementioned old-guard and maga morons both vying for the future of the party.


If it’s an even remotely contested race between Democrat/Republican then having a fractured GOP voter base can hand a lot of victories to Democratic candidates. Especially when said candidates are as delusional, self-centered, disloyal and scorched-earth as the magahead candidates.

[Captain N]

"You're not entitled to the fruits of someone elses' labor" claim people who worship Conservative ideals when it comes to not paying employees yet kneel at the altar of Trump.

Once again the hypocrisy is strong....

[Myradin]

Unless something prevents him from doing so, Trump's just going to run again in 2028, and 2032 and onward and onward until he can win.

[prwraith]

Unless something prevents him from doing so, Trump's just going to run again in 2028, and 2032 and onward and onward until he can win.

Eventually the republicans will just be like, kindly fuck off orange man. Or he'll die of old age.

[Myradin]

Eventually the republicans will just be like, kindly fuck off orange man. Or he'll die of old age.

True, I think the problem is the Republicans still lack someone to really rally behind who isn't him. If he loses in 2024 there' likely be a big group who still thinks the election was rigged.

2028 also has the question of who does trump run against? Do democrats have someone they can properly rally behind? or is it going to be Bernie Bros 2.0 and they hand the country to orange man because their candidate didn't win?

I'm just saying even if he loses, we may not be done with his noise yet.