Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[ringpriest]

I feel there is no reasonable situation in which Truth Social is worth billions. It has no traffic and no income. But, yep, yet another scam company Trump will start which will collapse the second he leaves with all their money.

Bribing the once (and sadly, possibly future) President of the United States in a "it's technically legal enough that we won't be charged for doing it" fashion seems like the kind of thing that could quite reasonably be worth billions.(Trusting Trump to do what you bribed him to do is left and an exercise for the buyer, but he does seem to have an adequate track record on at least being willing to sell out U.S. national security interests for flattery and cash. As long as it's for a grade-A dictatorial scumbag, at least.)

[Dontrike]

...only 3 years? I was hoping that it'd be way longer than that. Kinda disappointed.

I was expecting between 5-10. I doubt he'll live another 10 and this would be a nice death sentence for his cash.

[s_bushido]

My friend just linked me to a gofundme that some random woman started to raise money for the settlement, $27k in donations already.

Makes you think about how easy it is to fleece these dumbfucks.

Yeah, I saw that. Insane. I'm just curious how much money this is going to siphon from the sycophants before the site admins finally get around to shutting it down.

Though to be fair, there are some people donating the $5 necessary just to get their comment in the feed calling Trump a racist, rapist, grifter, fraud, etc.

[Breccia]

My biggest issues is, I don’t want the RNC to become, you know, his legal defense fund.

I don’t want the RNC to become his piggy bank for his personal court cases.

-- Nikki Haley, on CNN just to drive the point home

Let the record show: she did warn them. When Trump takes over, drains it dry, and then stops being a candidate (there are multiple options there) I expect to point at laugh at everyone who says "why didn't we see this coming?"

[gondrin]

-- Nikki Haley, on CNN just to drive the point home

Let the record show: she did warn them. When Trump takes over, drains it dry, and then stops being a candidate (there are multiple options there) I expect to point at laugh at everyone who says "why didn't we see this coming?"

Well, people have been warning about Trump for years. Let's take this famous quote by current Trump cuck Lindsey Graham:

If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed.......and we will deserve it.

He most definitely wasn't wrong and that is exactly what has happened to the GOP.

[Belize]

What kind of nutcase would pay 4B for a company with revenue (not profit) of 3.4M?

Also, 3.4M revenue is chintzy. The typical McDonald franchise generated that much in 2022 and cost a tiny fraction of that.

Money launderers, those buying political favors, etc...

[Endus]

-- Nikki Haley, on CNN just to drive the point home

Let the record show: she did warn them. When Trump takes over, drains it dry, and then stops being a candidate (there are multiple options there) I expect to point at laugh at everyone who says "why didn't we see this coming?"

Silver lining? If Trump manages to grab control of the RNC and their warchest, he very much will drain it for his legal troubles, and that and the incompetent leadership he'll provide might be enough to actually kill the Republican Party completely; donations will dry up moving forward after that and there's any number of competent alternative leaders who have the heft to try and build a new conservative party, with some measures in place to prevent the MAGA rot from creeping in. Cheney or Romney, particularly, perhaps both working together.

[Breccia]

Silver lining?

I disagree with none of this. It seems like a very logical chain of events. Which is why Haley sees it too and is trying to stop it.

She'll fail, and we'll get to watch the aftermath.

I honestly don't think the Republican Party knows Trump is old and dying. When they hand the party over to him, which they are, they're condemning it to a sudden stop in the forseeable future. Anyone thinking long-term would not put all their eggs in a basket too frail to walk up a small hill, slurring its speech, mixing up people's names then claiming a month later it was done on purpose, and who constantly lies about their medical health. The Democrats are backing Biden, true, but it's not the 100% Biden Only Forever Party. And Democrats know Biden is old. The Party of Trump without Trump will just be a bunch of leaderless broke losers adrift in a sea of tears of their own making, and all they'll have for company will be Greene and Gaetz, who even their own party can't stand.

[Gorsameth]

The GOP doesn't want to hand Trump the party, but their voters are forcing it upon them. They have little choice in the matter as every election more and more Trumpists get wedged into the party.

Just like the Tea Party successfully launched a hostile takeover of the GOP after Obama was election, so to do Trump force himself upon them after Obama left office.
For many many years the Republican voters and politicians were misaligned. We are seeing that correction happen in real time.

Which makes me wonder, what are the people who pushed the Southern Strategy from the 60's on thinking right now as they see the culmination of their efforts result in the (hopefully) destruction of their party.

[Poopymonster]

The GOP doesn't want to hand Trump the party, but their voters are forcing it upon them. They have little choice in the matter as every election more and more Trumpists get wedged into the party.

Just like the Tea Party successfully launched a hostile takeover of the GOP after Obama was election, so to do Trump force himself upon them after Obama left office.
For many many years the Republican voters and politicians were misaligned. We are seeing that correction happen in real time.

Which makes me wonder, what are the people who pushed the Southern Strategy from the 60's on thinking right now as they see the culmination of their efforts result in the (hopefully) destruction of their party.

Nothing. Most of them are probably dead.
The few that are alive "Hey! We weren't the baddies after all! These guys are much worse."

[Resurgo]

Trump is liable for $354,868,768, his sons are each liable for $4,013,024, and Weisselberg is liable for $1,000,000, bringing the total judgement to $363,894,816.

Don’t forget to tack on the 9% in pre-judgement taxes that will continue to rack up the longer he doesn’t pay it while appealing…

[Breccia]

The GOP doesn't want to hand Trump the party, but their voters are forcing it upon them. They have little choice in the matter as every election more and more Trumpists get wedged into the party.

I disagree with this statement.

Why are their supporters forcing the issue? Because they allowed it.

They don't have little choice. They have little choice anymore. They had multiple options, they took none of them.

How will Trump get control of the RNC? By the Republicans in the RNC allowing this to happen, and in fact, voting to make it happen themselves.

Why are they afraid of Trump supporters voting them out? Because they welcomed them, and Trump, into the party.

I fail to see a relevant distinction between "this person saw a bad choice and went for it on purpose" vs "this person saw a bad choice, had mulitple options to avoid it, and every time chose to avoid those options". How many safety signs saying ROAD CLOSED AHEAD to you have to pass before falling off the broken bridge is your fault? Nobody wants to fall off a broken bridge, but if the signs say ROAD CLOSED AHEAD and you drive past them, that's on you. You went off on purpose.

I do agree that the remaining Republicans no longer want to be saddled with this loser they took into their fold on purpose, and are worried about his crazy cult they took into their base on purpose. Lots of people have second thoughts when they are caught. If someone robs a gas station at gunpoint, I don't cal the situation when the police are pounding on his door "he has little choice". I say "he made bad decisions and these are the consequences".

[Gorsameth]

I disagree with this statement.

Why are their supporters forcing the issue? Because they allowed it.

They don't have little choice. They have little choice anymore. They had multiple options, they took none of them.

How will Trump get control of the RNC? By the Republicans in the RNC allowing this to happen, and in fact, voting to make it happen themselves.

Why are they afraid of Trump supporters voting them out? Because they welcomed them, and Trump, into the party.

I fail to see a relevant distinction between "this person saw a bad choice and went for it on purpose" vs "this person saw a bad choice, had mulitple options to avoid it, and every time chose to avoid those options". How many safety signs saying ROAD CLOSED AHEAD to you have to pass before falling off the broken bridge is your fault? Nobody wants to fall off a broken bridge, but if the signs say ROAD CLOSED AHEAD and you drive past them, that's on you. You went off on purpose.

I do agree that the remaining Republicans no longer want to be saddled with this loser they took into their fold on purpose, and are worried about his crazy cult they took into their base on purpose. Lots of people have second thoughts when they are caught. If someone robs a gas station at gunpoint, I don't cal the situation when the police are pounding on his door "he has little choice". I say "he made bad decisions and these are the consequences".

They tried to keep Trump out during the 2016 primary, it was rather clear from reporting at the time they didn't want him, but they failed because they had spend decades cultivating the voter base that wanted the openly racist misogynist orangutan.

I certainly don't think you can say they welcomed him in.

[Breccia]

it was rather clear from reporting at the time they didn't want him

And they had options to deal with it. They chose not to.

Honestly the difference is pretty minimal. The Republican Party, like you said, has been bringing in the religious right and the gun nuts for some time. Whether or not they have a choice on Trump now, 2020, or 2016 ends up being the same -- they brought this on themselves, and get no sympathy from me.

[Edge-]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna139334

Get yer Trump Sneakers(TM)!

I can't wait until he starts actually selling golden bulls. You know, for the bull market he's going to bring. That will rain gold down upon his followers.

Yes, he went to Sneaker Con to hawk his shitty golden shoes. I'm no sneaker enthusiast or anything, but those look like fucking ass.

[Polgara]

And they had options to deal with it. They chose not to.

Honestly the difference is pretty minimal. The Republican Party, like you said, has been bringing in the religious right and the gun nuts for some time. Whether or not they have a choice on Trump now, 2020, or 2016 ends up being the same -- they brought this on themselves, and get no sympathy from me.

Wouldn't both be possible? The GOP "believes" they tried to keep him out, but the GOP don't understand what taking a moral stand is, so they thought "pwease don't be too bad mistew twump" was "trying to stop him". It seems plausible to me given how spineless the GOP are.

[Gorsameth]

And they had options to deal with it. They chose not to.

Honestly the difference is pretty minimal. The Republican Party, like you said, has been bringing in the religious right and the gun nuts for some time. Whether or not they have a choice on Trump now, 2020, or 2016 ends up being the same -- they brought this on themselves, and get no sympathy from me.

Just for my curiosity? What sort of options did they have that they chose not to use?

The Democrats have Super Delegates, which gives the party a means to tip the scales if a rogue candidate tries to hijack the party, but the Republicans don't have such a measure. If a candidate they don't like wins their Primary I don't believe they have any mechanic to still reject said candidate.

Could they have been meaner to Trump and pushed back harder? Probably, but then your pushing back against your own core voter block, you can only push that for so long before they refuse to vote for you when it matters and then the party dies. And without the "Trump voter" block the GOP is not going to win any election.

[Paranoid Android]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna139334

Get yer Trump Sneakers(TM)!

I can't wait until he starts actually selling golden bulls. You know, for the bull market he's going to bring. That will rain gold down upon his followers.

Yes, he went to Sneaker Con to hawk his shitty golden shoes. I'm no sneaker enthusiast or anything, but those look like fucking ass.

I'm done. This is a D-List celebrity selling shit. Those sneakers are awful. This doesn't even come down to different taste. Almost sparay gold paint over some 1990 looking high tops with American flag/stars. America.

[Redwyrm]

I'm done. This is a D-List celebrity selling shit. Those sneakers are awful. This doesn't even come down to different taste. Almost sparay gold paint over some 1990 looking high tops with American flag/stars. America.

Makes it easier to spot the Maga idiots from further away. If only Trump would ask his followers to tattoo a giant "T" on their foreheads and make our lives simpler.

[Paranoid Android]

“The website selling the sneakers also features a ‘Victory47’ perfume and cologne for sale at $99 each.” nbcnews.com/politics/2024-…

https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/st...cHEeaCY7g&s=19

Umm, yeah. I saw a pic of cologne bottle and of course it's gold with a figure of Trump.

Here is cologne. It's gold of course with a Trump figurine.

https://twitter.com/ParkerKrex/statu...IXBkRB6rQ&s=19