Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Gorsameth]

Ooph! I'm a cynic at heart and SCOTUS now taking up the immunity case has me worried.

First they delayed hearing the case about 2 weeks ago. Now they decide and people say April with trial maybe in May. Trump's delay tactics work.

Now if SCOTUS rules in Trump's favor in immunity; Holy bleep. If this is the case then Biden better, well...

Edit: Just watched lawyer say that 90 days is period from SCOTUS ruling til trial. So August?

Oh yeah. The delay by SCOTUS seems obvious. A 3 month hearing when SCOTUS could honestly hear this next week. Lawyers don't need time for this argument.

As I said, they are buying Trump time, a ruling in August means nothing much is going to happen until after the election.

[Breccia]

The NSA admitted it a couple of years ago that they were up in my Signal account, and then they leaked it to the New York Times. They did that again before I left.

-- Tucker Carlson

He claims a whistleblower pulled him aside and told him, but of course, has nothing to offer but his good name.

(snicker)

[ringpriest]

As I said, they are buying Trump time, a ruling in August means nothing much is going to happen until after the election.

A ruling in Trump's favor in August will give Biden plenty of time to order SEAL Team Six to execute Trump and GOP leadership (and perhaps the Supreme Court for good measure). Note : Trump's legal team has maintained this would not be a criminal act.

[Gorsameth]

A ruling in Trump's favor in August will give Biden plenty of time to order SEAL Team Six to execute Trump and GOP leadership (and perhaps the Supreme Court for good measure). Note : Trump's legal team has maintained this would not be a criminal act.

They don't need to rule in Trumps favor if they delay the case long enough for him to become President.

[Breccia]

$4B!

Well, he'll have no excuses to say he can't afford to pay his lawyers or legal fines or damages now!

UPDATE: This aged poorly.

Trump gets sued again.

The co-founders of former president Donald Trump’s media company filed a lawsuit Wednesday, claiming that Trump and other leaders had schemed to deprive them of a stake in the company that could be worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

The case could complicate a long-delayed bid by Trump Media & Technology Group, owner of the social network Truth Social, to merge with a special purpose acquisition company called Digital World Acquisition and become a publicly traded company.

That merger deal, which could value Trump’s stake in the company at more than $3 billion, would offer the former president a financial lifeline at a time when he is facing more than $454 million in penalties from a civil fraud judgment this month in New York.

The filing said that Trump was set to receive 78 million shares in the post-merger company — a stake worth $3.5 billion at today’s share price — and that UAV would receive more than 7 million shares, a stake worth about $339 million. “Throughout TMTG’s corporate history,” the motion states, “UAV’s 8.6 percent ownership interest has been recognized and honored.”

But UAV’s attorneys allege in the motion that Trump has recently attempted to “drastically dilute” the partnership’s stake as part of what they called an “11th hour, pre-merger corporate maneuvering” tactic designed to increase the amount of authorized stock, from 120 million shares to 1 billion shares.

UAV’s attorneys wrote that the “dilution scheme” had “no legitimate business purpose” and suggested that Trump and the Trump Media board planned to issue the new shares to “Trump and/or his associates and children,” watering down UAV’s stake to less than 1 percent.

UAV was “promised 8.6 percent of this company and sadly its business partners are baselessly trying to renege,” said the partnership’s lead attorney, Christopher J. Clark of Clark Smith Villazor, in an interview with The Washington Post describing the lawsuit. “They feel like: We made Truth Social for you. You get 90 percent. But some people just aren’t happy with 90 percent.”

In the filing, Digital World said the proposed issuing of 1 billion shares in “New Digital World” stock was part of a set of post-merger business changes. The SEC declared this month that the merger’s registration statement was effective, clearing the way for Digital World’s shareholders to vote to finalize the merger in a meeting next month.

Digital World acknowledged the UAV dispute in the SEC filing, saying it had received letters starting last month from a UAV lawyer asserting that the partnership still had the right to appoint directors to Trump Media’s board and to “approve or disapprove of the creation of additional TMTG shares.”

UAV, the filing said, argued that its original services agreement with Trump from 2021 remains in effect. Digital World said in the filing that the agreement was “declared void” by a Trump attorney “nearly two and a half years prior.”

"Can one side of a contract just declare it void like that?"

No. That's why contracts exist. You can challenge it in court, but you can't just decide not to fulfill your side of the bargain and expect that to work.

"Will this lawsuit work?"

Probably, but who cares. One, you partner with Trump you deserve to lose. I don't care who wins in a fight between Trump and one of his supporters he ripped off -- call that victim blaming, you're right, and I stand by it in this context. Two, the lawsuit will delay things, and Trump can't afford that.

The filing said a UAV representative sent a text message this month to a Trump Media noteholder suggesting that UAV might seek to “enjoin,” or block, the merger. The filing also noted that a UAV attorney had sent Trump Media a letter threatening “legal action regarding UAV’s alleged rights in TMTG, including, if necessary, an action to enjoin” the merger.

Digital World said in the filing that the legal dispute could prevent or delay the merger deal, “significantly impact” the company’s future performance or “negatively impact investor confidence and market perception.”

The deal was signed in Delaware. This is bad news -- Delaware has a history of forcing even the most vile of contacts to stand. Quite frankly, if Elon can't succeed in a DE court, neither can Trump.

"Can't Trump just pay them off?"

Of course! He could have given them their agreed-upon percentage and been happy with 90%. He chose not to do that. He chose to unilaterally break a contract -- yeah, nobody's surprised. If he wanted to handle this peacefully he had his chances. Now, he's being dragged to court again -- probably twice, once to stop the deal and the other to enforce the original contract.

Trump is a horrible businessman. Everything he touches, dies. If he was counting on this being a lifeline, he sure isn't acting like it.

[Shadowferal]

I think it's finally dawning on a lot of people that Trump is as loaded as he made them think and now whatever he has left they're fighting it out to get to it before there's nothing left.

[Zaydin]

I have no idea why people keep doing business with Trump when he has a long and proud history of screwing over his partners, lenders and contractors. Do they convince themselves that they will be the ones he won't try to screw over?

[Edge-]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ry-1234978692/

During his speech, Trump said that Biden was allowing “millions of people from places unknown” to cross the border illegally. He keyed on those who speak the language of their country of origin.

“We have languages coming into our country, nobody that speaks those languages,” Trump said. “They’re truly foreign languages. Nobody speaks them.”

While there's a kernel of truth here again: There are some folks with very specific regional dialects that are difficult to find people to translate for, I think we can generally agree that he's both describing reality - yes they are foreign languages - and also lying about more trivial shit - clearly people speak them, a great many speak them.

Grandpa's brain isn't doing good and he's still doing the racism.

[ringpriest]

They don't need to rule in Trumps favor if they delay the case long enough for him to become President.

Given how corrupt the U.S. Supreme Court is, I wouldn't be surprised if they do both: delay the case, then once he's in or headed for office, rule that he's above the law.

[Breccia]

Grandpa's brain isn't doing good

Crooked Joe Biden must take a Cognitive Test. Maybe that way we would be able to find out why he makes such terrible decisions. I took two of them, and ACED them both (no mistakes!). All Presidents, or people wanting to become President, should mandatorily take this test!

Trump is laying the groundwork to skip the debates. Biden won't take the bait, or maybe, he'll take one in a secure medical way and say he passed it and Trump will say "I don't believe him". Trump will then use that as an excuse to pussy out like the fat fucking coward he is.

[Kaleredar]

Trump is laying the groundwork to skip the debates. Biden won't take the bait, or maybe, he'll take one in a secure medical way and say he passed it and Trump will say "I don't believe him". Trump will then use that as an excuse to pussy out like the fat fucking coward he is.

Biden will just ignore him and probably riff on his unwillingness to appear at the debates. Biden is countering Trump's "I think you're a dumb-dumb" with "I don't think about you at all"

[Endus]

Biden will just ignore him and probably riff on his unwillingness to appear at the debates. Biden is countering Trump's "I think you're a dumb-dumb" with "I don't think about you at all"

"Funny, I haven't had any need to take tests for cognitive decline, because my brain's just fine. You've taken two in the last few years? Sorry, man, must be rough. Keep your chin up."

[Dontrike]

Sounds like Melania might still be a bit miffed that Trump lasted 30 seconds with another woman.

Last March, shortly before Donald Trump was criminally charged for his hush money deal with Stormy Daniels, we learned that Melania Trump was still angry with her husband over the alleged affair and didn’t care if he ended up going to prison for it. So it’s pretty unsurprising to learn that when the allegations first came out that he’d paid a porn star six figures to keep quiet about cheating on his spouse, Melania was extra pissed about it and feeling pretty ungenerous toward the then president.

In American Woman: The Transformation of the Modern First Lady, From Hillary Clinton to Jill Biden, New York Times reporter Katie Rogers reports that after the allegations went public in 2018, Melania refused to join Trump on a trip abroad and headed to Mar-a-Lago without him. “[FLOTUS press secretary Stephanie] Grisham, who traveled with her on that jaunt, said that the first lady had wanted to communicate her anger to the president,” Rogers writes, according to People. Melania, Grisham told Rogers, “was pissed at Trump and wanted him to be a little humiliated that she took off.”

Four years later, Melania appeared to “communicate” a similar message when she didn’t show up for Trump’s speech at Mar-a-Lago (a.k.a. her home), following his arraignment by the Manhattan district attorney on 34 felony charges stemming from the hush money deal. (He pleaded not guilty and has denied the affair.) At the time, reporter Linda Marx revealed that the former first lady did not “sympathize with Donald’s plight.” A source familiar with the matter said, “Despite what happens to Donald, she will be fine.”

The hush money trial—Trump’s first but not last criminal one—is scheduled to kick off on March 25. Prosecutors in the case have already requested a gag order preventing him from attacking known or likely witnesses, court staff, the DA’s staff and their families, and any potential jurors.

[Myradin]

I find it amusing Trump's trying to impose rules on presidents while he won't even show his tax returns.

[Odinfrost]

I find it amusing Trump's trying to impose rules on presidents while he won't even show his tax returns.

The J in Donald J. Trump stands for 'Jhypocrite' (The j is silent)

[Kiwifarms]

Only sort of trump focused but does anyone else wish they would impose a maximum age for being electable as president?

I'm kinda tired of watching people who are supposed to be leading the country stroking out on camera...that or just blanking and forgetting where they are.

[The Stormbringer]

Only sort of trump focused but does anyone else wish they would impose a maximum age for being electable as president?

I'm kinda tired of watching people who are supposed to be leading the country stroking out on camera...that or just blanking and forgetting where they are.

Forget just President, have it for all forms of public office on the State and Federal level. There need to be age limits. They already prevent people who are "too young" from running, so "too old" should be just as easy to add in.

[Edge-]

https://abovethelaw.com/2024/02/trum...of-mean-judge/

Y'all remember that time Donald sued Hillary and Rod Rosenstein and James Comey and Christopher Steele and Jake Sullivan for THEY DID RICO WITH THE RUSSIANS and the judge ruled -

“At its core, the problem with Plaintiff’s Amended Complaint is that Plaintiff is not attempting to seek redress for any legal harm,” Judge Donald Middlebrooks wrote in his dismissal order, “[I]nstead, he is seeking to flaunt a two-hundred-page political manifesto outlining his grievances against those that have opposed him, and this Court is not the appropriate forum.”

And the judge then sanctioned Donald and Habba for $1M for wasting the DC courts time on a lawsuit claiming things outside the statute of limitations and also without any evidence.

ANYWAYS

1. Whether the district court’s dismissal of Plaintiff’s complaint with prejudice must be reversed because the district court misconstrued, and adopted an unduly narrow reading of, federal obstruction of justice and other federal criminal statutory predicates for RICO violations; erroneously concluded the claims failed to satisfy Twombley/Iqbal proofplausibility standards, despite pinpoint-documented factual support and relevant governmental findings; prejudicially relied, sua sponte, on partisan political views and unwarranted assumptions about President Trump, his lawyers, and the Defendants, prematurely reaching the merits of complaint allegations, including regarding Plaintiff’s financial injuries and need for judicial relief; misapplied the “shotgun pleading” doctrine procedurally and substantively; and erroneously denied Plaintiff leave to amend.

Yes, Donald is appealing the case that was dismissed with prejudice.

The document is a rich vein of crazy, chock full of bizarre assertions like, “Here, Plaintiff pleaded the RICO Defendants planned and executed an ongoing scheme to falsely allege harmful, reputation-damaging assertions of near-treason. This is public knowledge, and will likely continue beyond the present.”

It relies heavily on the Durham Report, treating it as if it blew the lid off a giant conspiracy, “establishing the complaint’s merits.” In reality, the only two prosecutions brought by Special Counsel John Durham led to acquittals, and his report oozed out like a wet fart seeking to stink up the FBI by implying without evidence that it jumped the gun on investigating Trump.

Not surprising, but at least the Durham Report will get some use, what with I believe Durham's greatest accomplishment was a misdemeanor prosecution for some guy that edited an email or something and literally none of the major, sensational claims Republicans made of him and his investigation for years.

[Breccia]

"Plaintiff pleaded the RICO Defendants planned and executed an ongoing scheme to falsely allege harmful, reputation-damaging assertions of near-treason. This is public knowledge"

No, it isn't.

Anyone who puts that into the court's hands should immediately be sanctioned. It is an outright lie.

That, and any case even tangentially involved should be summarily dismissed.

"Trump Tower meeting. Next case!"

[Gaidax]

Forget just President, have it for all forms of public office on the State and Federal level. There need to be age limits. They already prevent people who are "too young" from running, so "too old" should be just as easy to add in.

I, personally, think that anyone over 65 should be a no go for such positions.

In fact, I'd say around 50 would be the ideal, like Obama. It's an age where experience, energy and vibes combine, plus you know how to use that smartphone as a bonus.