Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Edge-]

New York state court judge Juan Merchan on Thursday ruled the names, homes and businesses addresses of the jurors in Donald Trump’s upcoming hush-money trial will not be released publicly to prevent tampering.

Well that's some good news, if it holds. Finally, a judge acknowledging Donald's long pattern of intimidation and attempted tampering of witnesses or jurors.

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Habba pleads for mercy from Kaplan to give them a bit more time.

"Mr. Trump's current situation is a result of his own dilatory actions," Judge Lewis Kaplan wrote in his order late Thursday. "He has had since January 26 to organize his finances with the knowledge that he might need to bond this judgment, yet he waited until 25 days after the jury verdict ... to file his prior motion for an unsecured or partially secured stay pending resolution of post-trial motions."

Kaplan said that Trump failed to show how the judgment constitutes an "irreparable injury" or demonstrate the expenses he faces by posting a bond in the case.

"The expense of ongoing litigation in the absence of a stay does not constitute 'irreparable injury' in the relevant sense of that term," Kaplan wrote.

Kaplan says nah fam, too slow. I appreciate that, for once, it seems Donald's delay tactics might not actually have any effect. Now to see if he can actually come up with the money or maybe he has to go to GiveSendGo to crowdfund $83.3M in three days!

[Breccia]

Kaplan says nah fam, too slow.

Mr. Trump's current situation is a result of his own dilatory actions

Oh, no! The consequences of his actions! How unfair!

The expense of ongoing litigation in the absence of a stay does not constitute 'irreparable injury' in the relevant sense of that term

Trump said, in court, having to pay his lawyers was "irreparable injury" and he needed special treatment because of it. News flash: you're supposed to pay your lawyers. If paying your lawyers was some kind of horrible unfair treatment that demanded special handling, no case would ever be tried. That's just fucking stupid.

"Yes, but Trump's legal fees are much higher so he naturally needs special treatment!"

That sounds like a problem that wouldn't end with missed/late filings and losing every case in court. Also, pretty sure he's draining the PAC funds for that, so no, it's not even temporary injury. Trump is lying.

So, still predicting that, with a few hours to spare, Trump will suddenly magically come up with the money he both claims to have and not have. Call it Schroedinger's Cash.

[gondrin]

Also if he cannot pay, he should have tried shutting the fuck up. Better yet, not raping anyone.

Trump is the guy talking shit to someone, trying to bully them, until said person decides they had enough and just decked him. That is what happened here. Kaplan just decked him where it hurts.

The man, outside of his father, never was held to any sort of punishment. Don't get me wrong, his father was just brutal but the fact remains is Trump himself has never had to deal with any actual punishment that wasn't from his father.

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Well that's some good news, if it holds. Finally, a judge acknowledging Donald's long pattern of intimidation and attempted tampering of witnesses or jurors.

Honestly, the names of jurors should never be released publicly. However, after a court case is settled, if the juror themselves wants to state they were on the jury, that is on them.

[Breccia]

As expected, Trump's promised SOTU rebuttal/live response was...on his social media platform, so nobody saw it.

So naturally FOX News cited it *ding* and then interviewed him afterwards *ding* without challenging Trump once *ding* *ding* *ding* *ding* *ding* *ding* *ding* *ding* *ding*

He suffers from a terminal case of Trump derangement syndrome, which is only curable through impeachment

-- no really, he said this on FOX News, they broadcast it

HE WEAPONIZED GOVERNMENT AGAINST HIS OPPONENT – DIDN’T TALK ABOUT THAT, NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE!

-- the man who told Clinton to her face he was going to appoint a prosecutor against her, to which he got thunderous applause

So, yeah, Trump is clearly senile. I can tell, because he said Biden was senile. And all Trump does is lie and project.

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Oh...apparently it was worse than even that.

Truth Social went offline before Biden began his speech, leaving Trump’s commentary in the dark.



There are reports the entire platform went down. You know, while he's trying to sell it.

He did manage to get one post out before the crash:

The President is very substantially late. Not a good start

Hmm. Not sure which is worse: Trump's hypocrisy on being late when there's a MMO-C thread loaded with instances of him being late to a rally...or Trump admitting Biden is President.

[Edge-]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ns-1234983528/

Because he's the de-facto nominee I guess this is fitting: Senator Katie Britt's rebuttal to the SOTU did not go over well with anyone, especially the more combative conservatives online.

I joked earlier in the day with my folks that she's have her own Marco Rubio sip of water moment but it seems like she didn't, her moment was literally the entire rebuttal. Ho boy, the comparisons to SNL, parody dystopian films, the North Korean news presenter lady, and many more are all extremely apt and fitting.

I think this might actually be a worse rebuttal to the SOTU than that weird time Democrats brought one of the younger Kennedy and his ultra-moist lips out for some reason. That was not great, but for wholly different reasons.

Edit: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/07/u...smid=url-share

Enjoy this gift link of a NYT writer mocking the talking points Senator Britt's team sent out to media to help them write about her (standard stuff).

The talking points compared her State of the Union response to some of the most famous oratory in American history, calling it “reminiscent of Reagan’s message of that Shining City on a Hill.”

rofl

[Breccia]

rofl

My favorite part?

“His speech was tone deaf,” the talking points declared, before either Mr. Biden or Ms. Britt had uttered a word. “Hers was the perfect pitch.”

Say what you want about me, I'm 100% biased and 95% asshole, but at least I waited until Biden's speech was over to quote it.

[Flarelaine]

So CNN went out of their way to be impartial and asked a load of... well, let's say public writers about the speech. I was prepared for some partisan hackery. I was not prepared for this:

Immediately out of the gate, President Joe Biden’s State of the Union address was a cynical, partisan campaign stump speech rather than an uplifting, substantive, unifying message.
In the first few minutes, Biden hit all the main fear-mongering campaign themes that Democrats plan to run on this fall. The president focused on wedge issues from abortion to the January 6, 2021, riots — even though they’re issues that Gallup shows fall very low on the priority list of what Americans say are the most pressing.

... and more of the same.

I had to look up who the fuck that was and the first thing I found was an article titled "Biden is coming for your Amazon Prime and he's backed by Soros Money" also written by her.

Erm, OK, I guess? Certainly helps me know where she stands.

[Breccia]

"Biden hit all the main fear-mongering campaign themes that Democrats plan to run on this fall. The president focused on wedge issues from abortion to the January 6, 2021, riots — even though they’re issues that Gallup shows fall very low on the priority list of what Americans say are the most pressing."

There's just too much to unpack here. It stands as a typical Trump defender talking point.
1) Republicans have no business accusing Democrats of being fearmongering, not without admitting hypocrisy.
2) Republicans made abortion an issue, and it bit them in the ass. Democrats have been pro-choice for some time, protecting women isn't exacly new. And no, it's not low on the list.
3) The Jan 6th riots -- wow, she actually admitted they were riots -- were a direct violent terrorist attack on democracy itself. Trump has yet to let it go, continuing to falsely claim he won, and has defended the murderous insurrectionists many times.

Only disingenuous hypocrites get to blame someone to reacting to their attack.

[Huehuecoyotl]

Trump has filed the $91.6m bond in the E Jean Carrol case.

Now he just has to find the $450m for the next one!

Be VERY interesting to see where the money came from. Did he actually have it? Has someone covered him? If so, why? Lots of question that a prospective President should be answering, don't you think?

[DarkTZeratul]

Be VERY interesting to see where the money came from. Did he actually have it? Has someone covered him? If so, why? Lots of question that a prospective President should be answering, don't you think?

Oh, he almost certainly had the $91.6 million. He just really really wanted to get out of paying it. It's the $450 million that raises serious questions about its potential source.

[Breccia]

Trump has filed the $91.6m bond in the E Jean Carrol case.

Wow! Who could have seen "all his whining and complaining was over nothing" coming? Oh, right, literally everyone.

For more we turn to NBC News

Attorneys for former President Donald Trump filed official notice Friday they're appealing the $83 million defamation verdict awarded to writer E. Jean Carroll — and that they've posted the $91 million bond needed to keep her from collecting while the appeal plays out.

The terms of the bond — and how much money or collateral Trump put down — are unclear. The source of the bond is the Federal Insurance Company, a corporation authorized to transact business in New York. They are based in Chesapeake, Virginia and New Jersey and the company appears to be a subsidiary of Chubb Insurance Company.

The filing came as a surprise because no it fucking didn't you liars.

Court documents show Trump signed the new bond agreement on Tuesday, and the attorney for FIC signed it on Wednesday — the same day that Trump's lawyers filed a letter asking the judge to stay the judgment for three days after he rules on their previous request for stay, which he has yet to do.

Well, I guess the request for a stay is no longer important.

Chubb Insurance and Trump have worked together before. Which is interesting, because he lied to them, and it came up in the NY fraud trial. I suppose it's possible, as I blindly guessed earlier, the bond deal (we don't know what it was) includes some extremely favorable, bordering on vindictive, terms to Chubb, along the lines of "if you miss even a single penny, we get Mar-a-Lago and Melania". Quite frankly, nobody should be doing business with Donald Trump without being paid in advance. Bonds like these are secured, meaning, if Trump goes bankrupt Chubb will be first in line. Perhaps they are insurers of his properties and believe they'll lose value when it becomes Carroll Tower. Or, perhaps they're cultists trying to get back into Trump's favor for...no idea why, honestly.

[Edge-]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ey-lara-trump/

The Republican National Committee (RNC) on Friday officially voted to make Michael Whatley and Lara Trump its new chair and co-chair, respectively, cementing former President Trump’s remaking of RNC leadership as he sets his sights on November.

RNC officials gathered in Houston for the group’s leadership meetings, where they agreed to replace outgoing chair Ronna McDaniel, who resigned amid discord with Trump during the primary process.

The Republican party is, again, still, officially the party of Trump, as Republicans who not too long ago said they wanted to abandon political dynasties have created the latest political dynasty.

I wonder if this means the RNC coffers have become Donald's legal trust-fund and are no longer accessible to downballot Republicans.

[Gorsameth]

I wonder if this means the RNC coffers have become Donald's legal trust-fund and are no longer accessible to downballot Republicans.

That was the entire point no?

[Myradin]

I wonder if they'll have an official platform this time, or like last time, just go with "Whatever trump wants"

[Edge-]

That was the entire point no?

It is, but I believe they need to have a formal vote on that, first.

[D Luniz]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ey-lara-trump/



The Republican party is, again, still, officially the party of Trump, as Republicans who not too long ago said they wanted to abandon political dynasties have created the latest political dynasty.

I wonder if this means the RNC coffers have become Donald's legal trust-fund and are no longer accessible to downballot Republicans.

here's hoping
Hope Trump drains the GOP dry like some animal encrusted with ticks

[Edge-]

here's hoping
Hope Trump drains the GOP dry like some animal encrusted with ticks

Didn't he promise to "drain the swamp" some years back?

Are we going to see Trump actually achieve his goal, but in a way he never thought of?

[Redwyrm]

It is, but I believe they need to have a formal vote on that, first.

Is this going to be like one of those Russian/Putin "votes"? Where the choice is

A) Putin
B) Putin
C) Putin
D) Oops Suicide

[Kaleredar]

here's hoping
Hope Trump drains the GOP dry like some animal encrusted with ticks

If Trump loses, then the GOP will be in dire, dire trouble for the foreseeable future. They’ll have effectively burned their down ballot runs and a whole host of capital on absolutely nothing. Furthermore, Trump will absolutely be using its monetary resources across the 2024 onwards time span to fight off and pay off lawsuits and lawyers, all using GOP money. Big donors will flee because they know none of it is making it to legislative efforts, and small donors aren’t an infinite source of money.


Because they aren’t “supporting the GOP” with these moves, they’re supporting Trump. And if he loses later this year as we’re all hoping and praying he does, he’s utterly toast. If he’s even alive/not in jail in 2028 him running then would be even more of a joke than now, especially because whomever the democrats put up will be a veritable spring chicken compared to the ancient orange two-time loser that will be Trump desperately screaming for relevance.


We stand on the precipice of being able to deal a tremendous blow to the GOP and hobble them for the foreseeable future. And it’ll be entirely of their own making. All it requires is denying them a Trump victory in 2024.

[Rasulis]

Even Ramaswamy does not want to contribute to Trump's campaign. I mean the guy is trying to be Trump's VP, and he still does not want to contribute.

Although failed GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy has endorsed presumed nominee Donald Trump, it seems Ramaswamy’s support only goes so far.

Based on what Ramaswamy told Fox News’ Neil Cavuto on Wednesday, Trump shouldn’t be waiting for any big cash donations from the Ohio entrepreneur anytime soon.

The Trump campaign is reportedly cash-strapped, not just because of the expenses of funding a presidential campaign but also because the GOP front-runner is facing hundreds of millions of dollars in penalties from a business fraud case and E. Jean Carroll’s defamation trial.

So, naturally, Cavuto repeatedly asked Ramaswamy if he plans to donate money to Trump’s campaign, noting that the former president has even reportedly asked Elon Musk for a “cash infusion.”
“I’m just wondering if he were to go to you and say, ‘All right, can you loan my campaign some money?’ What would you say?” Cavuto asked.

Ramaswamy tried to avoid answering the question, saying, “Donald Trump is not in need of anybody else’s help or anything else. He’s in the pole position to do this well.”

“He does need money, Vivek. Every campaign needs money,” Cavuto replied.

In response, Ramaswamy suggested that Trump rely on “grassroot supporters,” adding, “That’s actually been the character of the America First movement. It isn’t a movement of just big check writers, as it is for much of the Democratic Party and the establishment wing of the Republican Party.”

Cavuto finally managed to get Ramaswamy to admit that the limit of his Trump support will be strictly cheerleading.

“I’m going to be a vocal supporter, Neil,” Ramaswamy said. “And, you know, each of us has a lot of businessmen on the sidelines. I’m focused on the front lines, and some of us have chosen to get in the arena, and that’s where I’m playing.”

“Got it,” Cavuto replied.

Vivek Ramaswamy's Support For Trump Only Goes So Far

Maybe Putin, the richest man in the world, will contribute to Trump's campaign.