Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Gorsameth]

didnt he lose the defamation case in the first place for this stupid idea of "well if I just refuse to participate..."

Yes, he refused to comply with discovery and got slapped with a default judgement. Which is part of the argument they are pointing out now, that he has a history of refusing to comply and that the court should force him to cooperate. (or presumably face contempt of court and potential indefinite incarceration)

[Breccia]

didnt he lose the defamation case in the first place for this stupid idea of "well if I just refuse to participate..."

Yes, he refused to comply with discovery and got slapped with a default judgement.

That was Giuliani.

...oh shit, it was also Trump. Man, it sure is funny when people suddenly realize the rules apply to them, too.

[postman1782]

Trump defamed E. Jean Carroll again, just days after a company paid the $91 million to appeal the last case.

https://www.nj.com/news/2024/03/did-...t-he-said.html

He didn't mention her by name, but it is still defamation.

“I I just posted a $91 million bond,” Trump told the rally audience, “91 million, on a fake story totally made up. So, think of it ... 91 million.

“I could say things about what it would cost normally. Ninety-one million based on false accusations made about me by a woman that I knew nothing about, didn’t know, never heard of. I know nothing about her. She wrote a book. She said things. And when I denied it — I said, ‘It’s so crazy. It’s false’ — I get sued for defamation.”

[Gorsameth]

Trump defamed E. Jean Carroll again, just days after a company paid the $91 million to appeal the last case.

https://www.nj.com/news/2024/03/did-...t-he-said.html

He didn't mention her by name, but it is still defamation.

Lets go for another round to the bank!

[postman1782]

Lets go for another round to the bank!

Yep, they should slap him with criminal contempt now. And at least another 100 million. Pretty soon she is going to have more money than him.

[Dontrike]

Trump defamed E. Jean Carroll again, just days after a company paid the $91 million to appeal the last case.

https://www.nj.com/news/2024/03/did-...t-he-said.html

He didn't mention her by name, but it is still defamation.

And with any luck it will be easier to prove, cost more, and piss him off to the point of a heart attack.

[Endus]

Trump defamed E. Jean Carroll again, just days after a company paid the $91 million to appeal the last case.

https://www.nj.com/news/2024/03/did-...t-he-said.html

He didn't mention her by name, but it is still defamation.

They really should establish a ruling where any subsequent defamatory comments like those already proven automatically add to the penalty, like another $30m per or something. We don't need to waste the court's time re-litigating this shit.

[The Stormbringer]

They really should establish a ruling where any subsequent defamatory comments like those already proven automatically add to the penalty, like another $30m per or something. We don't need to waste the court's time re-litigating this shit.

Nah, add a zero behind each previous settlement. Each time he does it.

[Shadowferal]

I believe this will be the 3rd lawsuit with Carroll assuming she'll have another go.

[gondrin]

Nah, add a zero behind each previous settlement. Each time he does it.

Nah. That wouldn't do much. Make him have to not talk about himself in any way shape or form for a month. He couldn't bring up anything at all if it is about him or he wants it to be about him.

I am pretty sure his brain would just freeze because he couldn't actually talk about himself.

[Breccia]

I believe this will be the 3rd lawsuit with Carroll assuming she'll have another go.

As long as the lawsuit is separate and does not affect the others, why not? Even if she loses this time, harassing him is probably her favorite hobby, and keeping his lawyers pinned down is good for democracy.

[postman1782]

I believe this will be the 3rd lawsuit with Carroll assuming she'll have another go.

Yeah, her lawyer said they will do it again.

[Corvus]

I hope whoever loaned him the money is facepalming right now at just how fast he flushed it away - and if they expect to ever get it back they are dreaming.

But her lawyers must be laughing about now - this has got to be the easiest money they have ever made.

[Kaleredar]

I hope whoever loaned him the money is facepalming right now at just how fast he flushed it away - and if they expect to ever get it back they are dreaming.

But her lawyers must be laughing about now - this has got to be the easiest money they have ever made.

once they can actually get Trump into a pattern of paying said money. Right now it's still held in bond, right? Pending his "appeal" that will inevitably fail, of course.

Pretty sure his long term game is to try and stall this for as long as possible and "regain" said money by winning the presidency and hoping it means he can get it all thrown out... somehow.

[P for Pancetta]

I hope whoever loaned him the money is facepalming right now at just how fast he flushed it away - and if they expect to ever get it back they are dreaming.

But her lawyers must be laughing about now - this has got to be the easiest money they have ever made.

The guy who forwarded the money, is the CEO of Chubb Limited owned by ACE Limited. Who also own Chubb Insurance Company, LLC aka Chubb Insurance Company of Russia who insure oil and gas exploitation and transport in Russia. So I'm pretty sure if this helps Trump become president it'll be an investment that was well worth it for the person who was ultimately behind the money. Even the bond for his other case would be worth it, but I think that would be harder to achieve but we'll see, insurance companies have access to a lot of money.

[Cthulhu 2020]

The guy who forwarded the money, is the CEO of Chubb Limited owned by ACE Limited. Who also own Chubb Insurance Company, LLC aka Chubb Insurance Company of Russia who insure oil and gas exploitation and transport in Russia. So I'm pretty sure if this helps Trump become president it'll be an investment that was well worth it for the person who was ultimately behind the money. Even the bond for his other case would be worth it, but I think that would be harder to achieve but we'll see, insurance companies have access to a lot of money.

@PhaelixWW

lol

LMAO

Anyway, if Trump wins and becomes president, they won't pay a cent to Carroll. Carroll in all likelihood will mysteriously disappear and her story will be lost in the Project 2025 purge that seats Trump as dictator for life.

It's not an investment, it's a gamble. And who knows whether or not Carroll will even be able to get her hands on the money even if Trump loses. I feel like there has to be something about this collateral that gives them an out to not paying it. Yes, I know you have to post whatever it is as collateral, but if it's all properties, stocks or whatever there's no certainty that they won't try to wiggle their way out of paying.

[DarkTZeratul]

The guy who forwarded the money, is the CEO of Chubb Limited owned by ACE Limited. Who also own Chubb Insurance Company, LLC aka Chubb Insurance Company of Russia who insure oil and gas exploitation and transport in Russia. So I'm pretty sure if this helps Trump become president it'll be an investment that was well worth it for the person who was ultimately behind the money. Even the bond for his other case would be worth it, but I think that would be harder to achieve but we'll see, insurance companies have access to a lot of money.

This is... Not really true. Chubb is an American company, with a Swiss parent company. They have a Russian subsidiary, but so do most insurance companies. And given that they're both A) publicly traded and B) in a highly-regulated industry, Russian dark money being laundered through them would be difficult to hide and a massive violation of federal law. It's much more likely that they've simply secured some pretty big collateral against the bond that they're expecting to be able to collect on. If there's any corruption here, it's simply that Trump previously named their CEO to the White House advisory committee for trade policy and negotiations, though as I recall said committee was ultimately pretty useless.

It's also important to note that they said this would be the only bond they would extend him.

[Shadowferal]

As long as the lawsuit is separate and does not affect the others, why not? Even if she loses this time, harassing him is probably her favorite hobby, and keeping his lawyers pinned down is good for democracy.

Oh, I wholeheartedly endorse it. I just think don't think money is enough. A few years in solitary would be more appropriate.

[PhaelixWW]

The guy who forwarded the money, is the CEO of Chubb Limited owned by ACE Limited. Who also own Chubb Insurance Company, LLC aka Chubb Insurance Company of Russia

@PhaelixWW

lol

LMAO

Chubb is not "based in Russia". They're an American company based in Switzerland, but do business in most wealthy countries and have executive offices all over. One just happens to be in Russia. "Chubb Insurance Company of Russia" is a subsidiary of "Chubb Insurance Company, LLC"; they're not the same entity.

Like... this is really easy to find out. Fabricating complaints is just sad and totally not necessary, because there are plenty of legitimate ones to use.


EDIT:

This is... Not really true. Chubb is an American company, with a Swiss parent company. They have a Russian subsidiary, but so do most insurance companies. And given that they're both A) publicly traded and B) in a highly-regulated industry, Russian dark money being laundered through them would be difficult to hide and a massive violation of federal law. It's much more likely that they've simply secured some pretty big collateral against the bond that they're expecting to be able to collect on. If there's any corruption here, it's simply that Trump previously named their CEO to the White House advisory committee for trade policy and negotiations, though as I recall said committee was ultimately pretty useless.

It's also important to note that they said this would be the only bond they would extend him.

Yeah, this.

[Dontrike]

So what's Trump's lawyers up to? Well they're searching for the people who approved the Russiagate Pulitzer Prizes because.........getting paid by the hour to do stupid shit sounds fun? (I'd quote the article, but it's rather sizable.)


In other news Mike Lindell says he finally has proof, for the eight time.

Mike Lindell went on Steve Bannon's podcast yesterday to make another major announcement - he has blockbuster new evidence that he is going to personally deliver to the Supreme Court this Friday afternoon. Lindell was behind the lawsuit that was brought on behalf of Kari Lake to attempt to ban all voting machines in the United States, and this latest scheme from the pillow man is to petition the Supreme Court to hear that case.

The lawyers that Mike Lindell hired to bring the lawsuit were all sanctioned by U. S. District Judge John Tuchi for filing a frivolous lawsuit. Once of the lawyers, Alan Dershowitz, was sanctioned $12,000 for the lawsuit he brought against the Arizona Secretary of State. The case was then appealed to the federal 9th Circuit, who affirmed the district judge's ruling.

But now, Mike Lindell says he has recently uncovered new evidence that he intends to personally deliver to the Supreme Court. Evidence that is so compelling, he says that the world will never be the same:

"This is big everybody! This is what we've been waiting for. It's a Petition for Writ of Certiorari ... Our case was dismissed on standing, they said the claims were speculative ... The lawyers were sanctioned, including Alan Dershowitz, which I had hired for this case. This isn't just some tinfoil hat case, this is huge ... This new evidence is the most explosive evidence ever! Just in the last two months we got this. The lawyers are excited, the whole world is gonna watch us. This coming Friday on the steps of the Supreme Court, 3:00 PM. We're gonna hand-deliver this to the world. It's going to be the biggest thing ever, and we are going to save this country!"