Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Benggaul]

Doesn't really matter as long as she remains judge, as she will toss the case the first chance she gets during trial to give Trump Double Jeopardy immunity along with the prosecution unable to appeal.
Or, that's what I heard from the Legal Breakdown with BTC

It matters insofar as keeping the witnesses and their families safe, regardless of the outcome of the trial.

[Dontrike]

Small victories.

After months, Judge Cannon agrees to shield Trump witness names

Witness intimidation may be off the table. Unfortunately Cannon is still shilling hard for Trump's team which is making pretty much every legitimate legal expert in the country stare in open-mouthed shock followed by naked disdain, but until she's removed--which should have already happened given the amount of judicial blunders she's already made in probably the most sensitive case of the century--we'll have to take what we can get.

All she did was do something stupid then when there was obvious consequences coming down the tunnel she waited as long as she could to buy Trump as much time as possible and then switched. She's doing exactly what she was put here to do, buy time and hope Trump gets elected.

[Sunseeker]

I do not understand the Trump loyalty. I get Party loyalty, there's usually some underlying ideology everyone agrees to. But I do not understand this Trump loyalty, does she not understand that she's already lost? That the fact that this has gone on for so long will not win her Trumps favor, but that as soon as he is in power(assuming that happens) he'll destroy her?

It's like watching some C-tier minion to a villain clamor on about how they are truly loved, and the audience is well aware that nobody means anything to him and her failing to dispatch his enemies post-haste means she's already failed.

I may seem silly for comparing Trump Loyalists to cartoon characters, but that's what this looks like to me. The level of obsessive loyalty to Trump, not Republicans, not an Elder God, but Trump of all people just reads like authority fiat. "We need the baddies to stay loyal to the BBEG because reasons."

[Kaleredar]

I do not understand the Trump loyalty. I get Party loyalty, there's usually some underlying ideology everyone agrees to. But I do not understand this Trump loyalty, does she not understand that she's already lost? That the fact that this has gone on for so long will not win her Trumps favor, but that as soon as he is in power(assuming that happens) he'll destroy her?

It's like watching some C-tier minion to a villain clamor on about how they are truly loved, and the audience is well aware that nobody means anything to him and her failing to dispatch his enemies post-haste means she's already failed.

I may seem silly for comparing Trump Loyalists to cartoon characters, but that's what this looks like to me. The level of obsessive loyalty to Trump, not Republicans, not an Elder God, but Trump of all people just reads like authority fiat. "We need the baddies to stay loyal to the BBEG because reasons."

I think they see it as a loyalty to party. For all Trump’s dumbassery they know he’ll rubber stamp GOP doctrine and policy and install conservative-groomed judges. That is why they “want” him. They’ve just hitched their wagon to a particularly vile, volatile and criminal candidate to do so.

[Benggaul]

I do not understand the Trump loyalty. I get Party loyalty, there's usually some underlying ideology everyone agrees to. But I do not understand this Trump loyalty

Trump is the party at this point. They elevated him in 2016 and now without him and his ignorant MAGA base they are fucked. When he dies they'll either scramble to find another Trump to bring in his voters or, if they're smart, they'll try to distance themselves from the extremists and start trying to win back all of the classical conservatives they've scared off/kicked out.

[Rasulis]

After bouncing around $36 - 37 the last two days, DJT slipped another 10% to $34. The stock is too risky to hold. Sooner or later, Trump will want to sell his shares to raise money. When he does that, the stock will completely collapse.

The time for making money off DJT stock has passed. It is not too late to sell. Before the stock becomes completely worthless.

[The Stormbringer]

After bouncing around $36 - 37 the last two days, DJT slipped another 10% to $34. The stock is too risky to hold. Sooner or later, Trump will want to sell his shares to raise money. When he does that, the stock will completely collapse.

The time for making money off DJT stock has passed. It is not too late to sell. Before the stock becomes completely worthless.

Too bad he can't. He's still got, what, five and a half months to go?

[Rasulis]

Too bad he can't. He's still got, what, five and a half months to go?

He could ask permission to sell early from the DJT board which consists of the following.

Devin G. Nunes - Chief Executive Officer and Director
Eric Swider - Director
Donald J. Trump, Jr. - Director
Kashyap “Kash” Patel - Director
W. Kyle Green - Independent Director
Robert Lighthizer - Independent Director
Linda McMahon - Independent Director

If he asks nicely, I am sure they won't say "no". Based on their history with Trump, Lighthizer and McMahon are definitely not independent of any sort. Protecting investors' interest is not in their interest.

[Breccia]

Too bad he can't. He's still got, what, five and a half months to go?

I read a story the other day...hold on...this is close enough.

Remember how

"Donald Trump has ramped up a battle over shares in his newly public Trump Media & Technology Group Corp. with a lawsuit against his co-founders, claiming they violated an agreement setting up the social media company and shouldn’t get any stock in it at all."

No, he's suing because of course he's suing.

They are suing back, saying they should not be trapped in the six-month lockout. They also know the stock is sprinting towards "worthless" like Trump towards...okay he can barely waddle, bad example.

Lawsuits are not quick and these suits will not be decided in a few days. They value they're clawing for is dropping rapidly. Yes, it'll still be a sizable sum in six months. No, it won't be anything like it was worth last week.

Did you see the original Wonder Woman movie? The scene with the gas mask? This is basically that.

After this happened, a bunch of articles all said "lockouts are fairly standard in this situation". The fact that even a minority shareholder who helped start the company is yelling at the top of his lungs he's running for the hills should be all the warning everyone needs that this project is doomed.

He could ask permission to sell early from the DJT board

It is my understanding that this would immediately be halted by any of the involved lawsuits. I would also hope it was illegal in some way -- but I get the impression that this is one of those laws that, since it only applies to rich people, has no consequences of any kind, if it even exists at all.

[Rasulis]

I read a story the other day...hold on...this is close enough.

Remember how



They are suing back, saying they should not be trapped in the six-month lockout. They also know the stock is sprinting towards "worthless" like Trump towards...okay he can barely waddle, bad example.

Lawsuits are not quick and these suits will not be decided in a few days. They value they're clawing for is dropping rapidly. Yes, it'll still be a sizable sum in six months. No, it won't be anything like it was worth last week.

Did you see the original Wonder Woman movie? The scene with the gas mask? This is basically that.

After this happened, a bunch of articles all said "lockouts are fairly standard in this situation". The fact that even a minority shareholder who helped start the company is yelling at the top of his lungs he's running for the hills should be all the warning everyone needs that this project is doomed.



It is my understanding that this would immediately be halted by any of the involved lawsuits. I would also hope it was illegal in some way -- but I get the impression that this is one of those laws that, since it only applies to rich people, has no consequences of any kind, if it even exists at all.

The very act of him asking for permission will probably crash the stock. No investors want to be the last one holding DJT stocks.

[Sunseeker]

The very act of him asking for permission will probably crash the stock. No investors want to be the last one holding DJT stocks.

Yep, and his cult doesn't have the money to buy it up and support it.

Though ironically if they did, they'd each have so little it's result in collective ownership.

[Rasulis]

Yep, and his cult doesn't have the money to buy it up and support it.

Though ironically if they did, they'd each have so little it's result in collective ownership.

Earning reports are due by the end of April <g>.

[Breccia]

The very act of him asking for permission will probably crash the stock. No investors want to be the last one holding DJT stocks.

True, which is why it'll happen behind closed doors. They will protect their emperor at any cost -- including insider trading, which is almost assuredly happening.

Yep, and his cult doesn't have the money to buy it up and support it.

Imagine being less impactful and having less influence than GameStop.

Earning reports are due by the end of April <g>.

Not sure how impactful that'll be. Everyone knows Truth Social is a failure. Like, what is the report going to say that we don't already know?

[Rasulis]

Not sure how impactful that'll be. Everyone knows Truth Social is a failure. Like, what is the report going to say that we don't already know?

I see each news piece as a hammer strike driving the fact that DJT has no fundamental. As you say, it is a failure. Even at $0.50 per share it is overpriced. The 4th Q 2023 report was the first strike that started the ball rolling. First Q 2024 report will be another major strike.

[Shadowferal]

For the sake of amusement;

'SO UNFAIR!': Former President Donald Trump Complains About Potential Prison Sentence During Crazy Rant

"On Monday, I will be forced to sit, GAGGED, before a HIGHLY CONFLICTED & CORRUPT JUDGE, whose hatred for me has no bounds. All of these New York and D.C. 'Judges' and Prosecutors have the same MINDSET," he continued. "Nobody but this Soros Prosecutor, Alvin Bragg, wanted to take this ridiculous case."

"All legal scholars say it is a sham," Trump claimed. "BIDEN’S DOJ IS RUNNING THE CASE. Just think of it, these animals want to put the former President of the United States (who got more votes than any sitting President!), & the PARTY’S REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE, IN JAIL, for doing absolutely nothing wrong."

Monday, April 15th his criminal trial begins.

[Breccia]

"whose hatred for me has no bounds"

Apparently it has one bounds, the judge hasn't tweeted once.

Trump is continuing to claim the judge is corrupt and the case is run by Biden. He has no evidence of either. I also like that he's retreating behind "more votes than any sitting president" since his other attempts, like "I won" were proven false. Oh, and Biden still got more votes than a sitting President, so, fuck you fatty.

[Rasulis]

A reminder who the GOP wants to have at the helm of our country.

As its stock collapsed, Trump’s firm gave him huge bonuses and paid for his jet

It was promoted as the chance of a lifetime: Mom-and-pop investors could buy shares in celebrity businessman Donald Trump’s first public company, Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts.

Their investments were quickly depleted. The company known by Trump’s initials, DJT, crumbled into a penny stock and filed for bankruptcy after less than a decade, costing shareholders millions of dollars, even as other casino companies soared.

In its short life, Trump the company greatly enriched Trump the businessman, paying to have his personal jet piloted and buying heaps of Trump-brand merchandise. Despite losing money every year under Trump’s leadership, the company paid Trump handsomely, including a $5 million bonus in the year the company’s stock plummeted 70 percent.

Many of those who lost money were Main Street shareholders who believed in the Trump brand, such as Sebastian Pignatello, a retired private investor in Queens. By the time of the 2004 bankruptcy, Pignatello’s 150,000 shares were worth pennies on the dollar.

“He had been pillaging the company all along,” said Pignatello, who joined shareholders in a lawsuit against Trump that has since been settled. “Even his business allies, they were all fair game. He has no qualms about screwing anybody. That’s what he does.”

But interviews with former shareholders and analysts as well as years of financial filings reveal a striking characteristic of his business record: Even when his endeavors failed and other people lost money, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee found a way to make money for himself, to market his Trump-branded products and to pay for his expensive lifestyle.

Trump was the chairman of Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts in Atlantic City from 1995 to 2009, his only outing as the head of a major public company. During that time, the company lost more than $1 billion, financial records show. He also was chief executive from 2000 to 2005, during which time share prices plunged from a high of $35 to as low as 17 cents.

In a recent Washington Post interview, Trump said he “made a lot of money in Atlantic City,” adding, “I make great deals for myself.”

He expounded: “They say, ‘Why don’t you take the casinos public or something?’ You know, if you take them public, you make money on that. All I can say is I wasn’t representing the country. I wasn’t representing the banks. I wasn’t representing anybody but myself.”

Corporate governance experts say it’s rare for executives of public companies to suggest that they haven’t been looking out for the shareholders who financed them.
Note: I think he is the only that ever said it out loud.

[Templar 331]

Monday, April 15th his criminal trial begins.

Took waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to long to get here, but we've finally made it.

[Edge-]

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldT...47471112784333



Huh...do you reckon posting a screenshot of an apparently fake letter complicates his upcoming "hush money" trial?

Because this is sure an interesting letter! I didn't know it was the year 20011 in between 2006 and 2016! Also, I didn't know people sign anything remotely legal or official with their stage name? Does anyone know if that's a legal thing?

Anyways, Donald's been on his social media platform all day TWEETING IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE HE HAS NEVER TURNED OFF CRUISE CONTROL

[Breccia]

Does anyone know if that's a legal thing?

Just so we're clear...this appears to be a hand-signed piece of paper, sent to "To Whom It May Concern", that breaks any NDA because she is D-ing it. Which means, she could not only have been sued, but with the agreement broken, could have kept denying it. She didn't.

No, it's not legally binding, whether she signed it with her legal name, stage name, or Abraham Lincoln.

By the way, Daniels has already said that she was coerced into signing it.

Daniels responded to the letter circulating in these tweets on March 24 saying, “This is the statement Cohen wrote. It is old news from early 2018 before I came forward. I think it's HYSTERICAL that tiny is trying to spin this as some kind of new information. There's a clip of this from the @jimmykimmel show& I discuss it in my book "Full Disclosure”.”

The letter circulating online shows it is dated Jan. 30, 2018.

An excerpt from Daniels’ book Full Disclosure, which was published in October 2018, where she discusses being pressured into writing the letter can be seen (here).
Daniels also talked about the letter in an interview with Jimmy Kimmel on Jan. 31, 2018 (here) and in a 60 Minutes interview on Aug. 22, 2018.

This letter is meaningless. And I believe Cohen will say this while on the stand.

This letter is six years old. Trump is trying to portray it as if it's new, relevant information. It is not. If anything, waving it on social media opens himself up to the risk of being directly asked about it on the stand. Trump chose to make this relevant. That letter should be introduced as evidence purely on the grounds that it related to the payment Cohen made on Trump's behalf.