Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Odinfrost]

"On Monday, I will be forced to sit, GAGGED.

Sir, sir, sir, sir, SIR! Your only gag is when you attack the judge, prosecution, jury and those related to the aforementioned individuals.
If you truly were gagged like you claim, you couldn't have made that comment, let alone say it publically.

... Can someone actually, on television, in front of his face, say that to him?

[Poopymonster]

Sir, sir, sir, sir, SIR! Your only gag is when you attack the judge, prosecution, jury and those related to the aforementioned individuals.
If you truly were gagged like you claim, you couldn't have made that comment, let alone say it publically.

... Can someone actually, on television, in front of his face, say that to him?

For the love of Christ and Mario Andretti. Will some motherfucker PLEASE gag him.

[Dontrike]

For the love of Christ and Mario Andretti. Will some motherfucker PLEASE gag him.

Phrasing !

[Cthulhu 2020]

Damn man there are people out there who are desperately pumping this stock hard and the price just keeps plummeting far more than anyone is willing to buy out it seems, because it still has its momentum of the crash.

[Poopymonster]

Phrasing !

Fine.

For the love of Chris, Mario, and Luigi. Will some motherfucker PLEASE gag him.

[Orange Joe]

Doesn't really matter as long as she remains judge, as she will toss the case the first chance she gets during trial to give Trump Double Jeopardy immunity along with the prosecution unable to appeal.
Or, that's what I heard from the Legal Breakdown with BTC

Double jeopardy doesn't cover mistrials. She would have to let the trail go to verdict for double jeopardy to apply.

[Lanrefni]

Double jeopardy doesn't cover mistrials. She would have to let the trail go to verdict for double jeopardy to apply.

She's angling to set things up so she can dismiss the charges with prejudice on a technicality after the trial starts,not get a mistrial.
And even a mistrial will be spun by Trump as a victory because it will delay the trial and allow him to continue to spew and spread disinformation thus making the next trial an even bigger clusterfuck.

[Breccia]

For those of you keeping track, Trump has tried, and failed, to delay the Stormy Daniels case 11 times. Three times in the last three days.

This one's a felony in state court -- he can't pardon himself. NYState will not get a red governor either.

No wonder he's waving around a six-year-old piece of useless paper he forced someone to sign at gunpoint. The man is terrified of the consequences of his actions.

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She's angling to set things up so she can dismiss the charges with prejudice on a technicality after the trial starts,not get a mistrial.

According to the first ten sites I found that discussed this issue, the order to dismiss with prejudice is itself subject to appeal. It cannot be refiled if the appeal fails.

I don't think Cannon wants to dismiss the case with prejudice and then have it immediately thrown back in her face. That would just prove to the world that the appeals court will convict Trump, and Cannon wants to avoid that message. If the appeals court is harsh enough, the case could be yanked from her docket and she'd lose the ability to protect Trump. Under the assumption that the goal is "stall until Trump is in the WH" she'd be better off dragging it out for maximum duration, then declaring a mistrial, hoping NYState doesn't refile against a sitting WH vagrant. NYState will not give up on their existing trial, but might balk at filing a new one.

[Myradin]

The funniest thing about the whole hush money thing is that it was a waste of time on Trump's part to begin with.

His cult doesn't care.

[The Stormbringer]

The funniest thing about the whole hush money thing is that it was a waste of time on Trump's part to begin with.

His cult doesn't care.

Right? He could've not paid a dime, avoided breaking the law, and still would come out smelling like roses to his fanatical followers. But I guess his ego wouldn't allow him to look desperate or something, and paying a woman for sex when he's such a big, manly, hugely masculine dude-man-bro would be shameful. After all, he can totally get women in his bed without money involved!

[Edge-]

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/10/trum...s-lawsuit.html

Investment firms led by the former CEO of the SPAC that merged with Donald Trump’s media company allege that their files were hacked and stolen by a current member of the media company’s board of directors.

In a federal civil lawsuit filed in South Florida last month, the firms accuse board member Eric Swider of plotting a coup in early 2023 to replace Patrick Orlando as CEO of the special purpose acquisition company, Digital World Acquisition Corp.

As part of that attempted ouster, Swider and others allegedly “stole access” to the firms’ computer systems and then “used the stolen information to attack” Orlando, according to the lawsuit.

It was “an audacious scheme to seize control of and enlarge their holdings,” claims the suit, which was filed by Benessere Investment Group and ARC Global Investments II.

The suit seeks damages and an injunction “prohibiting the use of the stolen information and to stop the Defendants hacking” the firms’ files.

Orlando was fired from Digital World in March 2023 and replaced by Swider.

That blank check company last month completed a merger to take Trump Media & Technology Group Corp. public, allowing it to trade on the Nasdaq Stock Market. The company, which owns the Trump-centric social media app Truth Social and trades under the ticker DJT, soared in its stock market debut but those gains have since erased.

On Wednesday alone, the share price fell nearly 9%. Since April 1, the stock has lost almost 45% of its value.

Is anyone involved in this not suing someone else/being sued?

[diller]

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldT...47471112784333

It has to be fake, either way her name isn't actually Stormy Daniels so it would be weird if she signed it as such and it certainly adds no credibility to the letter.

[Elder Millennial]

It has to be fake, either way her name isn't actually Stormy Daniels so it would be weird if she signed it as such and it certainly adds no credibility to the letter.

Did some googling, apparently she did change her legal name to Stormy Daniels, but only in 2022. I don't know what are the legalities of someone signing something with their stage name.

[Breccia]

The funniest thing about the whole hush money thing is that it was a waste of time on Trump's part to begin with.

His cult doesn't care.

At the time, I think the religious right would have had a problem if Stormy Daniels said, in public, under oath, "Yes Donald Trump paid me for sex" and Trump to let that go uncontested.

It's 2024 and now they're committed. Read into "committed" what you will, by the way.

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It has to be fake

It is not fake, she personally said she signed it under duress. Cohen was involved and might literally testify to that.

[Odinfrost]

At the time, I think the religious right would have had a problem if Stormy Daniels said, in public, under oath, "Yes Donald Trump paid me for sex" and Trump to let that go uncontested.

It's 2024 and now they're committed. Read into "committed" what you will, by the way.

Pretty sure we're seeing the greatest collection of 'Sunk Cost' in US history. Many would feel they wasted their time and money if they dropped support now

[Draco-Onis]

At the time, I think the religious right would have had a problem if Stormy Daniels said, in public, under oath, "Yes Donald Trump paid me for sex" and Trump to let that go uncontested.

It's 2024 and now they're committed. Read into "committed" what you will, by the way.

As a non religious person Trump assumed that religious people have morals and standards they would never yield on. Anyone who grew up in the faith would have told him otherwise but he learned that too late that they were just as amoral as he was.

[Breccia]

As a non religious person Trump assumed that religious people have morals and standards they would never yield on. Anyone who grew up in the faith would have told him otherwise but he learned that too late that they were just as amoral as he was.

I'll disagree with that when I'm healthy enough to do so. Right now I don't Falwell.

Okay no really, Trump hid the truth for an obvious and understandable reason: he knew what he did was wrong and didn't want to suffer the consequences. This is commonly called "Neutral Evil" who will do whatever they can to advance themselves. He thought people knowing he paid his whore would cost him, and in 2016, I think he was right. 2016 was close. A small splinter sect of moral conservatives could have changed everything. So, yes, he paid Daniels off, he did it in silence, and he did both because he was concerned what would happen if the truth came out.

[Edge-]

Apparently Rudy has had some luck raising money recently!

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/11/laws...nse-fund-.html

One of the largest donations to Rudy Giuliani’s legal defense fund is at the center of a new lawsuit that argues the $100,000 contribution rightfully belongs to victims of an alleged online fraud scheme.

The donation by Matthew Martorano in September accounted for nearly 13% of all the money that Giuliani, the former attorney for Donald Trump and New York City mayor, raised in the fund.

The fund was intended to help Giuliani pay for lawyers in the Georgia election interference case — where Trump is a co-defendant — and in a civil defamation case that Giuliani lost, brought by two Georgia election workers.

But the plaintiff in the new civil suit — filed after CNBC reported on Martorano’s donation earlier this year —claims that $100,000 flowed from Martorano’s participation in an alleged online skincare product scam. They are seeking “to unwind” the donation to Giuliani.

There is no public evidence that Giuliani and Martorano know each other. CNBC has asked a spokesman for Giuliani if they did.

Still, the claim adds another layer of legal wrangling to the fight over Giuliani’s remaining assets. The former mayor filed for bankruptcy protection in December, after a judge ordered him to pay the election workers $146 million.

Giuliani “should give all the money back” that he received from Martorano, said Kevin Kneupper, the attorney who filed the lawsuit alleging fraudulent transfer in Fulton County against Martorano, his wife, and corporate entities on behalf of his client, LeAnne Tan.

Giuliani spokesman Ted Goodman, in an email to CNBC, said “This is a lawsuit unrelated to us.” He had no immediate additional comment.

CNBC requested comment from lawyers for Martorano, his wife, and the other defendants in both the Georgia lawsuit and a federal civil racketeering and fraud lawsuit in California related to the alleged skincare cream scam. None of them responded.

But might have to give some back if the donor did raise much of the money through doing "the fraud".

[DarkTZeratul]

At the time, I think the religious right would have had a problem if Stormy Daniels said, in public, under oath, "Yes Donald Trump paid me for sex" and Trump to let that go uncontested.

See, I disagree, because I remember when the Access Hollywood tape came out and most of his supporters were unfazed even then.

[Breccia]

See, I disagree, because I remember when the Access Hollywood tape came out and most of his supporters were unfazed even then.

His numbers took a hit from that one. If the Six Degrees of Laptop hadn't appeared, that could have cost him the election.