Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[The Stormbringer]

Former Presidents are generally referred to as President tho.

Bush and Obama are also referred to as President, not Former President.

Pretty sure I've heard "Former President Obama" and "Former President Bush" plenty of times, but I suppose that is anecdotal.

[Flarelaine]

Normally I would counter with "This is America, even the worst of the worst deserves a fair trial with an unbiased jury".

And that is a lovely principle but even without Trump in the picture this practice limits jurors to those who will not understand the problem, any problem, because proper understanding will always require context and prior knowledge.

You teach maths. You wouldn't expect anyone to understand a problem in an AP course without having passed basic arithmetics. And when politics and law intersect, they are just as complex as advanced maths but way less straightforward. Maths, at least, is not only logical but arguably is logic.

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Former Presidents are generally referred to as President tho.

Bush and Obama are also referred to as President, not Former President.

I know this does not actually entitle them to a different form of address, but for the record, both retired undefeated.

[Breccia]

Former Presidents are generally referred to as President tho.

There is massive disconnect with this term, however.

Trump supporters, and more importantly employees, refer to Trump as "President Trump" and Biden as "Crooked Biden". No, it is not about the title, no it is not about the term, it's about the context and respect. Grab an article at random that quotes a Trump supporter's quote and you'll see it. Grab an article at random from FOX News and you might still see it.

@The Stormbringer is correct.

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proper understanding will always require context and prior knowledge

Actually in the USA jurors cannot add evidence and experts are therefore kicked out. It's worse than what you're saying.

[s_bushido]

Former Presidents are generally referred to as President tho.

Bush and Obama are also referred to as President, not Former President.

May be irrelevant, but: I heard someone call Pelosi "Speaker" in an interview the other day, and it was freaking strange, man.

[Rasulis]

Nunes explains how he will save Truth Social.



Yep, "taking the best of" all the platforms people actually use.

Oh, and cancelled TV shows.

Not only will he somehow do that, but somehow it will make Truth Social worth the billions a company that demonstrably spends ten times what they earn claims to have in value.

In other words, magic.

Up 12% today. Probably people started buying because they thought it had bottomed out. We'll see.

"Taking the best of" is b.s. talk. Meta has an entire research department dedicated to constantly improving FB, Instagram, Whatsapp, Messenger, Marketplace, Threads, Quest, AI, etc. Over 24,000 distinct patents with 73% active. A global research PhD fellowship program (tuition + cost of living). Joint research centers at Berkeley and Stanford. Also, unlike DJT declining user base, Meta's user base in North America actually increased in 2023.

DJT has what? Trump posting? I don't understand how his supporters bought all of Trump's hype hook, line & sinker.

[DarkTZeratul]

May be irrelevant, but: I heard someone call Pelosi "Speaker" in an interview the other day, and it was freaking strange, man.

Especially because former Speakers are pretty much never afforded the title.

[Ausr]

Typos and Freudian slips seem related. On another note; Surreal scenes as jurors in New York trial tell Trump what they really think

If you were in the room with these people, it isn't typos or slips. It is literally not paying attention.

[Breccia]

Up 12% today. Probably people started buying because they thought it had bottomed out. We'll see.

Friends and family trying to stabilize the humiliation Trump was taking. Once late night stops talking about how Truth Social is worth less than a warm bucket of hamster vomit, they'll sell and the price will drop again.

[Rasulis]

The is a first.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000...e-fd7e8f970000

To Whom It May Concern,

As we all know, dollars raised online will play a pivotal role in helping Republicans win this cycle.

With the RNC now joining President Trump's campaign in a joint fundraising committee, we're
issuing new guidelines for candidates and committees who choose to use President Trump's
name, image, and likeness in fundraising solicitations.

Beginning tomorrow, we ask that all candidates and committees who choose to use President
Trump's name, image, and likeness split a minimum of 5% of all fundraising solicitations to
Trump National Committee JFC. This includes but is not limited to sending to the house file,
prospecting vendors, and advertising

He wants a 5% cut from any GOP candidates that use his image or name for fund raising.

[Edge-]

The is a first.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000...e-fd7e8f970000



He wants a 5% cut from any GOP candidates that use his image or name for fund raising.

So not only is he taking the RNC funding that would normally go to downballot races to use for his legal fees, but he's also taking a cut of downballot fundraising if they use his likeness in any way. Oh and will absolutely make note of people who donate more which is totally not a very obvious and open declaration that yes Donald's favor can be purchased for money if you're gullible enough to actually believe he will deliver on his word.

[Shadowferal]

[The Stormbringer]

https://media.okmagazine.com/brand-img/1-xhAkpAw/768x402/donald-trump-courtroom-sketch-1713370461450.jpg

They say a picture is worth a thousand words... but damn the subject of this picture is ugly.

[Dontrike]

Again I fail to comprehend the drive to disqualify everyone who has sufficient background knowledge to make a reasoned, informed judgement from the process.

Trump would go through the entirety of Manhattan just to keep this trying going as long as possible.

[gondrin]

They say a picture is worth a thousand words... but damn the subject of this picture is ugly.

If you put a couple of bolts on his neck, he could be a stand in for an orange Monster of Frankenstein.

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So, the Orange Buffoon doesn't know how jury selection works. I mean, his lawyers should have known that the prosecution and defense can only strike 10 jurors each in the state of NY. The judge can dismiss as many as necessary.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...2e0987e5&ei=11

"Deliberately ignorant" Trump misleads followers on jury rules in latest Truth Social rage post

Donald Trump, once more enraged and online, has implausibly claimed that his legal team was blindsided by court staff saying that they could only strike up to 10 jurors from the docket and no more.

"I thought STRIKES were supposed to be 'unlimited' when we were picking our jury?" he wrote Wednesday on Truth Social. "I was then told we only had 10, not nearly enough when we were purposely given the 2nd Worst Venue in the Country. Don’t worry, we have the First Worst also, as the Witch Hunt continues! ELECTION INTERFERENCE!"

What the post misses is that the number "10" is baked into New York state criminal law, information that Trump's legal team should have known about even if the court staff didn't remind them before the trial. Prosecutors can also strike any 10 jurors from the pool, although each side is prohibited from striking them based solely on factors such as race. Jurors can also be struck for cause, such as openly expressing bias during the selection process, which does not count against either side's allotment.

Law professor and for U.S. attorney Joyce Vance wrote on X that the rule is common knowledge in legal circles. "The number of peremptory strikes are set by NY law," she noted. "For cause challenges are unlimited, but the judge rules on them. Again, Trump is either deliberately ignorant or lying."

Trump has displayed a bitter and defiant attitude throughout first couple days of the trial: that is now landing him in some trouble. On Tuesday, Judge Juan Merchan had to admonish Trump for gesturing and speaking in the direction of a potential juror.

The jury that takes shape will decide whether or not Trump is guilty of 34 felony counts, all related to accusations that he falsified business records to hide hush-money payments to Stormy Daniels, who claims they had an extramarital affair.

[Breccia]

He wants a 5% cut from any GOP candidates that use his image or name for fund raising.

Or...what, exactly? Fucking bring it, fatty, sink your party, fucking go for it.

So, the Orange Buffoon doesn't know how jury selection works.

I can't think of a single reason he would post that, if his lawyers had told him and he remembered. Oddly enough, "I thought STRIKES were supposed to be 'unlimited' when we were picking our jury?" is not a lie.

[Azadina]

Or...what, exactly? Fucking bring it, fatty, sink your party, fucking go for it.

"it would be a shame if something happened to your lovely house". The mafia circle is full. Tributes and everything.

[Poopymonster]

If you put a couple of bolts on his neck, he could be a stand in for an orange Monster of Frankenstein.

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So, the Orange Buffoon doesn't know how jury selection works. I mean, his lawyers should have known that the prosecution and defense can only strike 10 jurors each in the state of NY. The judge can dismiss as many as necessary.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...2e0987e5&ei=11

His lawyers know.
They are powerless to do anything with their client. SAD!

[Breccia]

His lawyers know.

Citation needed. We have seen little to no evidence that Trump has effective counsel.

[gondrin]

Citation needed. We have seen little to no evidence that Trump has effective counsel.

Oh, his counsel is effective. It is effective at making things worse.

[arandomuser]

average voter logic'
" man i hate joe brandon for inflation"
" im going to vote trump so we can stop getting cheap labor from china and southeast asia and make everything union made in america with large tarriffss on foreign imports and somehow reduce the prices of everything while also getting rid of the deficit by removing the income tax and adding a 23% sales tax"


i understand wanting to decouple with china on national security grounds its 1 issue where he did change the overton window for the positive ( until recently when jeff yass gave him a huge cash infusion) but your avg voter legitimiately thinks those things are consistent with stopping inflation lol