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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    Donald Trump has been a whiner his entire life. He won't stop whining until he's dead.
    Yeah, that's fair. He still keeps talking about he whined the 2020 election and he hasn't stopped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    Is it even legal in the US to shoot your dog (and goat) in the head because you felt like it?
    Laws about animal cruelty usually are more about torture then death or if its someone else propriety. From rural area its usually not a rarity to kill dogs and cats and theres not much beside not torturing them. As for farm animals like a goat, I doubt there would be anything beside again the torture. Considering more often then not these farm animal entire existence revolved around being killed to eat there's no much protection when it comes to keeping them alive.

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    I have invited Biden to debate.

    You tell me where, we're ready.

    -- Donald Trump, outside his criminal trial

    Okay everyone, pick the correct response from the list below:

    A) (silence)

    B) "Monday at noon, in California. Oh, you can't get there? Why not? Oh, right, your first criminal trial. Why don't you wait to make those kinds of invitations until your schedule is free?"

    C) "The CPD does that sort of thing. There's already a schedule. You already know when and where."

    D) "Sorry. I understand you have lots of free time, but I'm kind of running a country here."

    E) Other (please specify)

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    I'm...pretty sure Biden already tacitly invited him to debate...

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    heh, now imagine if trump has to debate this guy...

    To preview my arguments, I will show how President Trump betrayed the hopes of his most sincere followers. He promised to end the Ukraine war and then colluded with Speaker Johnson and President Biden to fund it. He let Big Pharma and his corrupt bureaucrats run roughshod over him as President. He promised to cut the deficit and ran up the biggest debt in history. He promised to run the government like a business and then closed down our businesses. He promised to drain the swamp and then filled his administration with swamp creatures. He promised to protect our rights and then torpedoed the Constitution.

    Instead of lobbing poisonous bombs from the safety of his bunker, let’s hear President Trump defend his record to me mano-a-mano by respectful, congenial debate.
    https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status...67700304335087

    Not that I'm a supporter of his, but this would be utter hilarity to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resurgo View Post
    heh, now imagine if trump has to debate this guy...


    https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status...67700304335087

    Not that I'm a supporter of his, but this would be utter hilarity to watch.
    I mean, I don't support him either but that statement is pretty much 100% entirely correct, except for the "colluding with Biden to keep the war going" bit.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resurgo View Post
    Not that I'm a supporter of his, but this would be utter hilarity to watch.
    Let's everyone remember this challenge. Every time a Trump supporter calls Biden a coward for not taking a break from running the free world to "debate" in a forum Trump decides is fair, we can bring up that Kennedy has challenged Trump who is only busy defending himself from criminal charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I have invited Biden to debate.

    You tell me where, we're ready.

    -- Donald Trump, outside his criminal trial

    Okay everyone, pick the correct response from the list below:

    A) (silence)

    B) "Monday at noon, in California. Oh, you can't get there? Why not? Oh, right, your first criminal trial. Why don't you wait to make those kinds of invitations until your schedule is free?"

    C) "The CPD does that sort of thing. There's already a schedule. You already know when and where."

    D) "Sorry. I understand you have lots of free time, but I'm kind of running a country here."

    E) Other (please specify)
    Definitely going with C, myself. If he responds at all, it will simply be to point at the existing debate schedule in the fall.

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    45th President Donald J. Trump is again the Republican Nominee for President of the United States, and is currently dominating in the Polls.

    However, he is being inundated by the Media with questions because of this Rigged Biden Trial, which President Trump is not allowed to comment on, or answer, because of==
    Yeah you get the idea. First of all, no he's not dominating in the polls. Second of all, that's a looooooooooot of talking about yourself in the third person and slapping on that title. Third of all, he can't seem to stop saying Biden is running the trial. And of course, fourth of all, he's calling the trial rigged. He has no evidence of the latter two.

    Once again, we have no Trump supporters left -- they refuse to debate on the issues, probably because they can't. I'm going to stop taking that as an excuse, and reserve the right to quote them as siding with Trump on this issue (and others) until they specifically and directly address it, should they return. Yes, that makes all Trump supporters conspiracy theorists. Look who they're following. It's logical to assume that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Yeah you get the idea. First of all, no he's not dominating in the polls. Second of all, that's a looooooooooot of talking about yourself in the third person and slapping on that title. Third of all, he can't seem to stop saying Biden is running the trial. And of course, fourth of all, he's calling the trial rigged. He has no evidence of the latter two.

    Once again, we have no Trump supporters left -- they refuse to debate on the issues, probably because they can't. I'm going to stop taking that as an excuse, and reserve the right to quote them as siding with Trump on this issue (and others) until they specifically and directly address it, should they return. Yes, that makes all Trump supporters conspiracy theorists. Look who they're following. It's logical to assume that.
    What's the source on this? One of his fake tweets? Is he talking about himself in the third person again, unsarcastically, a sign of narcissists everywhere?

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    He is also allowed to comment on the trial, just not allowed to intimidate witnesses and jurors.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stormbringer View Post
    What's the source on this?
    Dementia.

    Oh, you meant the quote. Still dementia. But it's being quoted by everyone now. Yes, it was one of Racist Grandpa's 3AM fake Chinese tweets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    He is also allowed to comment on the trial, just not allowed to intimidate witnesses and jurors.
    Correct. But of course, Trump cultists don't follow facts. They make shit up and ignore when it's directly refuted by reality. That's why Trump supporters don't come here anymore. They have nothing to work with and get dunked on in every discussion that involves an objective fact, like what you just said.

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    Supreme Court denies Peter Navarro’s long-shot bid to stay out of prison

    Navarro, 74, was found guilty last year of two counts of contempt of Congress — one for failing to produce documents related to the probe, and another for skipping his deposition before the select panel that investigated the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.

    The Supreme Court’s denial of Navarro’s request follows his second ask to the nation’s highest court to set him free while he challenges his conviction.

    By default, Navarro’s first emergency request to stay out of prison while appealing the conviction went to Chief Justice John Roberts.

    Roberts, who acted on the request alone, said in March that he would not pause Navarro’s four-month prison sentence as his appeal moves forward, forcing the onetime Trump adviser to report to a federal prison in Miami on March 19.

    Navarro then renewed his motion to Justice Neil Gorsuch. As the court typically does to avoid repeated efforts, Gorsuch referred the matter to the full court for a vote. Navarro’s request was again denied.

    The decision means that Navarro will likely serve his four-month prison term before arguing the appeal of his conviction before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.

    At trial, Navarro sought to prove to a jury that he was shielded by executive privilege from complying with the House Jan. 6 committee’s requests. But the district judge barred him from using executive privilege as part of his defense after finding that he failed to prove privilege was ever invoked by former President Trump.
    Bannon got a different judge who let him stay out of prison, but he's still guilty and his appeal is just as likely to fail on the same merits. When it happens.

    No, there is no Executive Privilege here.

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    Damn, so asking someone else at the same outfit the same question didn't yield a different result? Poor, poor Peter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Damn, so asking someone else at the same outfit the same question didn't yield a different result? Poor, poor Peter.
    To be fair, "keep asking until a judge takes your side" is the only defense option Team Trump has. They fail every case on the merits. Navarro would keep trying, except that his sentence is ongoing and will likely be over before he finds a third reason to ask a third time.

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    OAN today has retracted its March 27 article entitled “Whistleblower: Avenatti Alleged Cohen* Daniels Affair Since 2006, Pre-2016 Trump Extortion Plan,” and is taking it down from all sites and removing it from all social media. This retraction is part of a settlement reached with Michael Cohen. Mr. Avenatti has denied making the allegations. OAN apologizes to Mr. Cohen for any harm the publication may have caused him.

    The article, quoting a source, falsely claimed that Mr. Cohen and Ms. Daniels “were having an affair since 2006” and that, according to a source, ‘the whole hush money scheme was cooked up by [Mr. Cohen] to extort the Trump Organization before the 2016 election.’ These statements were false. OAN regrets their publication.
    OAN got desperate to do Trump's bidding and Cohen asserted Dominion over them.

    "Did that story even make it here?"

    Probably not. Trump supporters are cowards who've all fled and nobody in their right mind would have believed it. But sure, I'll check. March 27, was it?

    (scours site)

    So March 27 was apparently both the day Trump started selling bibles and Lindell got evicted. A ridiculous claim like "married Cohen was sleeping with Stormy Daniels" which only someone as truth-averse as a Trump supporter would go for wouldn't have made page six. Meanwhile our usual crowd of Trump supporters were too busy doing other things than engage in honest and genuine debate, not surprising, as they both have no reasonable stance to debate from and also they're a bunch of insane cowards.

    I found a WaPo article about the settlement/retraction however I can't find a WaPo article about the alleged affair. Probably because WaPo knew it was bullshit.

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    Judge rules Trump violated gag order when he violated the gag order many many times on purpose.

    Each of ten posts fined $1,000 and ordered to be taken down.

    Yes, this is nearly nothing in and of itself. Hopefully the judge also says "this was your warning shot" and when Trump continues to violate the gag order like a $130,000 whore, it costs more each time -- or leads to jail time when he refuses to comply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    OAN got desperate to do Trump's bidding and Cohen asserted Dominion over them.

    "Did that story even make it here?"

    Probably not. Trump supporters are cowards who've all fled and nobody in their right mind would have believed it. But sure, I'll check. March 27, was it?
    I hope Cohen got paid for it, holy shit OAN is bad at their jobs and they should probably start running all their editorials by legal before pushing them live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I hope Cohen got paid for it
    The term used was "settlement" and Cohen is a lawyer, so I would assume this to be the case, but sealed as with many other settlements.

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    Miami Grand Prix shuts down effort to hold Trump fundraiser at F1 race

    I mean, what did you expect? One of the drivers is literally named Hamilton.

    The Miami Grand Prix sent a cease and desist letter Friday night to a prominent Trump fundraiser, informing him that he cannot use a suite at an upcoming Formula One race as a high-dollar fundraiser for the Trump campaign. Trump, according to multiple people familiar with the event, has been planning to attend the race.

    The letter was sent to Steven Witkoff, a longtime Trump friend who recently testified on behalf of Trump in a suit in New York that resulted in a New York judge handing down a $350 million civil fraud judgment against the former president for financial misdeeds.

    “It has come to our attention that you may be using your Paddock Club Rooftop Suite for a political purpose, namely raising money for a federal election at $250,000 per ticket, which clearly violates the Formula 1 Crypto.com Miami Grand Prix suite license agreement,” read the letter, which was obtained by The Washington Post. “If this is true, we regret to inform you that your suite license will be revoked, you will not be allowed to attend the race at any time, and we will refund you in full.”

    The Miami Grand Prix is scheduled for May 5 at the Miami International Autodrome in Miami Gardens. A spokesman for the race declined to comment.

    According to two people familiar with the details of the fundraiser, it was set up through the recently opened Shell Bay Club, located near Hollywood, Fla. The golf club, which Witkoff’s real estate company developed, has a reported $1 million entrance fee.

    In a recent club newsletter, members of the club received an invitation to the Miami Grand Prix that advertised a helicopter trip and other perks. It did not mention Trump, but according to two people who called the club about the event, they were told the event was for Trump and would cost $250,000. The suite was purchased in Witkoff’s name.

    The terms of the suite state it cannot be used for “advertising, promotional or commercial purposes (including without limitation, prizes, competitions, contests, or sweepstakes) without the prior written consent of Promoter and the F1 entities …”
    "Why would Trump supporters meet at one of the most famous international sports meetings? Aren't they about America First? How many drivers are even American?"

    Sargeant.

    "Sargeant who?"

    (facepalm)

    "Well, at least the offending Trump supporter didn't call this Fake News."

    Yes he did.

    Reached Friday by phone, Witkoff said, “This is something fake, for sure,” but declined to comment further.
    While this isn't Trump directly, yet another case of Team Trump using a song, brand, or likeness without permission and being bitchslapped for it.

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    This is 100% believable because Donald has never read a contract or legal agreement that he can remember in his lifetime. We have the depositions to prove it, too.

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    The Presidential Debate Commission’s schedule does not begin until after millions of Americans will have already cast their ballots. This is unacceptable, and by refusing to move up the debates, they are doing a grave disservice to the American public who deserve to hear from both candidates before voting begins.

    We are committed to making this happen with or without the Presidential Debate Commission. We extend an invitation to every television network in America that wishes to host a debate, and we once again call on Joe Biden’s team to work with us to set one up as soon as possible.
    -- Trump via spokesperson

    Wow, someone's desperate to change the message. Well, I think Biden should offer Trump every chance Trump offered his primary opponents.

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    Trump was specifically and directly asked about violence after the election. Because he has a 100% proven record of inciting murderous insurrections when he loses.

    When Trump was asked in an initial interview about the prospect of more political violence in 2024, after the events following the 2020 election, he said no. "I think we're gonna have a big victory. And I think there will be no violence," Trump said.

    But asked in a follow-up conversation about what will happen if he doesn't win, Trump was equivocal.

    "Well, I do think we're gonna win," Trump answered. "We're way ahead. I don't think they'll be able to do the things that they did the last time, which were horrible. Absolutely horrible. So many, so many different things they did, which were in total violation of what was supposed to be happening. And you know that and everybody knows that. We can recite them, go down a list that would be an arm’s long. But I don't think we're going to have that. I think we're going to win. And if we don't win, you know, it depends. It always depends on the fairness of an election."
    Well, you konw what that means. That is Trump announcing that, yes, he will incite violence again.

    I went back over the Jan 6th posts in these very forums. Only one person supported Trump, I asked them to condemn the violence and they refused. Problem is, they're gone for a year now. Good news: I reserve the right to intentionally requote them as supporting this violence, because they were asked to condemn it and refused.

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    You probably saw last night that Jack Smith got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

    It was released late last night, and it’s a big story. The documents case is a hoax created by them for election interference purposes. And so that one looks like it’s going asunder. A brilliant judge saw some facts and — I haven’t read what was revealed yet, it just came out. But the document hoax is indeed — it is indeed a hoax.
    "Why is he presenting it without reading it?"

    It's Trump. Facts mean nothing to him.

    "Okay what's this bombshell report that surely came out in an important, trustworthy source, like WaPo or the Washington Examiner?"

    ...

    "Okay, FOX News or OAN."

    ...

    "...Brietbart?"

    Some Guy On Twitter.

    This one was first elevated by Julie Kelly, a right-wing commentator whose efforts generally focus on defenses of individuals charged with participating in the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot. On Saturday morning, she shared a snippet of a court filing on social media.

    “WELL WELL WELL I am pretty sure we never heard this part of the ‘classified documents/box’ story!” she wrote. Referring to an image of text, she asserted that an “FBI agent says [General Services Administration] was holding large quantity of Trump’s boxes in VA and then ordered his team to come get them. I am sure NOTHING hanky [sic] happened there …”

    The image, which doesn’t identify the speaker, references “six pallets of items, boxes I believe” that the GSA contacted Trump’s post-presidential office about having shipped. In a subsequent post, Kelly posted an image from an interview with someone identified as “Person 10,” in which that individual indicated that they’d seen a pallet with bankers’ boxes — like those featured in photos from Mar-a-Lago.

    “So an entire pallet full of boxes that had been held by GSA somewhere outside of DC is dumped at Mar-a-Lago,” Kelly wrote. “Apparently these are the boxes that ended up containing papers with ‘classified markings.’ ”
    "But that sounds like...uh...I don't get how this clears Trump of obstruction."

    It doesn't clear him of anything.

    Before we assess the validity of the claim, it’s important to point out that even if Kelly’s presentation were accurate, the result would not be to exonerate Trump. The boxes mentioned in Kelly’s post were delivered to Mar-a-Lago in mid-September 2021. It wasn’t until January 2022 that material was shipped back to the National Archives after Trump (according to the indictment) personally went through the material.

    Understanding that not everything had been returned, the Justice Department obtained a warrant demanding the return of anything with classification markings, regardless of whether they were still classified. Trump failed to do so. When the FBI searched Mar-a-Lago, it found material marked as classified in a storage room and Trump’s office.

    None of those subsequent issues are dependent on how the material got to Mar-a-Lago, nor are the issues in the superseding indictment focused on an alleged effort to keep the government from obtaining surveillance footage.
    "Okay, well, I guess it's irrelevant, but at least it's new info."

    Nope.

    It’s not clear what document she was posting images from; she didn’t link it in her social media posts. There was an excerpt of the interview with Person 10 released last week, but it doesn’t include the discussion of pallets. It does, however, make obvious who was being interviewed: an employee of Trump’s post-presidential office who began working there in July 2021. That employee was at the center of another discovery of documents marked as classified several months after the Mar-a-Lago search.

    The interview with Person 10, though, doesn't matter. What matters is why there were pallets of material in Virginia and how they got to Mar-a-Lago. And we already know the answer to that, because The Washington Post reported on it in December 2022.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...er-presidency/

    After Trump (grudgingly) left office, he was allotted funding to run a transition office, a process that involved the GSA. Because he rejected his election loss for so long, his team was slow to set things up. Shortly before Biden was inaugurated, Vice President Mike Pence’s team chose a GSA-managed space in Crystal City for its office. Trump’s team asked whether it could be there, too.

    Former presidents are allowed six months of funding for their transitions. So, with a hard deadline of July 21, Trump’s team operated out of the GSA building in Crystal City. One staffer informed the GSA that “as many as 100 boxes of presidential gifts would be stored at the Crystal City office,” The Post reported, based on an email sent to the GSA.

    [T]he Crystal City office was crammed with leftover stuff from the Trump White House with no apparent organization and little knowledge of what was even there,” our report noted.

    July 21 arrived, and the Crystal City office still had a bunch of stuff in it. Trump’s staff put material into boxes and boxes on pallets. Two pallets finally arrived at Mar-a-Lago on Sept. 14. The other four pallets (including two that had been repacked after a pallet became oversized) went to a nearby storage facility.

    In requesting material to pack up Crystal City, Trump staffer Desiree Thompson Sayle asked for 30 bankers’ boxes, the small white boxes featured in photos in the Trump indictment. There were also 15 small cardboard boxes, 30 medium-size ones and 10 large ones. The pallets that ended up at Mar-a-Lago were a mix of these types of boxes.

    Compare this with Kelly’s presentation. These were not obviously “the boxes that ended up containing papers with ‘classified markings,' ” though some may have been. Regardless, the material in Crystal City was not held or managed by the GSA; instead, it was material that was part of Trump’s post-presidential office. Trump also brought several boxes directly to Mar-a-Lago after he left office.

    Interestingly, a member of Trump’s team provided a letter to the GSA (at the agency’s request) attesting that “the items being shipped from Arlington, VA to Palm Beach, FL are required to wind down the Office of the Former President or are items that are property of the Federal Government” — stipulations required for the move to be paid for by transition funds.

    During Trump’s trial on Tuesday, he learned that he would be allowed to attend his son Barron’s high school graduation in mid-May. The idea that he was being prevented from doing so ran rampant on the right as his allies attempted to use the issue to disparage the trial and the judge overseeing it.

    The GSA story can be thought of in the same way. There’s no smoking gun related to the material shipped from Trump’s Crystal City office to Mar-a-Lago. It’s just another unverified rumor that coursed through the right-wing narrative universe before reality could catch up.
    If this was just another nameless faceless useless Some Guy On Twitter, it wouldn't even break wind, let alone news. But Trump specifically and directly called out something not just useless, but false.

    Because Trump supporters have no defense. They have a leader who is objectively guilty and praying a judge shows mercy. All they have is yelling louder and hoping nobody calls them on their bullshit.

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    Alaw firm that has represented Donald Trump in various cases since 2014 has decided to quit representing the former president's campaign in the face of a lawsuit brought by a former employee who was impregnated by a top aide to the Republican candidate, The New York Times reported.

    In a court filing last week, LaRocca, Hornik, Greenberg, Rosen, Kittridge, and McPartland said it wished to quit representing the campaign in the case brought by A.J. Delgado, a former writer for the National Review who worked on Trump's 2016 campaign.

    Jason Miller, a communications staffer for Trump, cheated on his wife with Delgado during the campaign; she alleges he cut off contact after she became pregnant and that the campaign likewise "immediately and inexplicably" shut her out. Her lawsuit charges that this constitutes discrimination based on her sex and pregnancy.

    In explaining its decision to quit representing the campaign, Trump's long-time lawyers cited an "irreparable breakdown in the attorney-client relationship," the Times reported. That came after a federal court ruled that the campaign must turn over documents related to discrimination and harassment claims its received.

    In her own filing, Delgado alleges that the firm's attempt to withdrawal from the case may be part of an effort to deny compliance with that ruling.
    https://www.salon.com/2024/05/01/irr...mination-case/

    So it seems Donald may lose one of this "longtime" lawfirms because one of his campaign staffers cheated on his wife with a former National Review writer who worked on the 2016 campaign, ghosted her after she got pregnant with their child, and is now suing the campaign/Jason Miller.

    Very on-brand for conservative Republicans to be cheating on their spouses, or sleeping with someone who is, and to also not take responsibility for the consequences of your actions. At least on the part of Jason Miller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Very on-brand for conservative Republicans to be cheating on their spouses, or sleeping with someone who is, and to also not take responsibility for the consequences of your actions. At least on the part of Jason Miller.
    Wow...typically when Trump fucks his lawyers over, it's not literal.

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