1. #90701
    Gotta wonder at the debates now

  2. #90702
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydin View Post
    Democrats in Congress really need to follow up by introducing legislation that would forbid convicted felons from running for Congress or President.
    Good luck getting a constitutional amendment through, because that is what it would take.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

  3. #90703
    Donald has finished ranting to cameras and has been handed back his phone. The ALLCAPS TOTALLY NOT MAD posts area just getting started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Very Tired View Post
    So basically it's convincing people who were already going to vote for him in the first place.
    There's just no honesty there. It's like a mass of people all absolutely determined to continue behaving as if the truth is a lie. Reality is of no concern to them. They have a story that they want to be true and they're sticking to it no matter what. Why does the story matter to them so much? It's so insanely frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    Guilty lol. I’m not happy. I’m sad it took this long to find him guilty. Why didn’t they com back like an hour after the judge gave it to them after a stretch, potty break and lunch. There has been no question of his guilt.
    Because its 34 counts that all have to be deliberated on. Even if they all unanimously agree he is guilty that shit takes time work through.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Gotta wonder at the debates now
    I'm sure Biden will be more than accomodating. He'll give Trump a podium inside his cell while he debates him outside of it.

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    Maggat tears are great. I dont think im going to get anymore work done. Time for some wine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    Good luck getting a constitutional amendment through, because that is what it would take.
    Oh I'm under no delusions it would become law. It would be nice to see Republicans forced to vote in defense of a felon though.

    I also keep seeing Trumpists declaring the SCOTUS will save him but, from what I've read, the Supreme Court can't as Trumps convictions were under New York state law which the Supreme Court has no jurisdiction over.
    "If you are ever asking yourself 'Is Trump lying or is he stupid?', the answer is most likely C: All of the Above" - Seth Meyers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Cue the endless appeals!
    He would have to have a reason to appeal, and as of right now, he doesn't. He can't say the jury is biased, Trump's lawyer picked them too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    nothing will come of it, but good he was found guilty
    He can't vote now for himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerph- View Post
    It'll probably do the opposite and boost his efforts to get back into the White House.
    I can guarantee it won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Appeals will go only so far as NY state Supreme Court.
    And they have to have a reason to appeal, he can't appeal the facts of the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    I can guarantee it won't.
    People really seem to not get that there are clearly a lot of undecided voters in the US. People who are not affected by a candidate being a felon were already voting for him anyway; the verdict changes nothing for them. But it probably does affect a solid number of independent voters and given that the election is at the end of the day decided by a few thousand voters in 5-6 states, that's what matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    Good luck getting a constitutional amendment through, because that is what it would take.
    Technically, the states control the election procedure in their own state. So if the NPVIC is enabled and even a few states refuse to allow felons on the ballot...

    I mean, that would probably still allow for a write-in campaign, but such a person would have to have massively overwhelming support already for that to be successful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    People really seem to not get that there are clearly a lot of undecided voters in the US. People who are not affected by a candidate being a felon were already voting for him anyway; the verdict changes nothing for them. But it probably does affect a solid number of independent voters and given that the election is at the end of the day decided by a few thousand voters in 5-6 states, that's what matters.
    During the Iowa primaries, 74% of 804 people polled in Iowa said they will not allow a law to change it to allow a felon to be on the ballot to be president.

    https://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...s/72847692007/

    So they don't want a felon on the ballot in November.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stormbringer View Post
    Why is the sentencing so far out? Over a month? Why? Don't appeals come after sentencing to begin with? Does the judge really need that long to deliberate sentencing?
    Well, Donald did, I believe, have the option of asking the judge for immediate sentencing. Otherwise the judge will probably want to look at precedents before making his decision. Also I think both the Prosecution and the Defense have options to reccommend sentencing. And there's also looking into extenuating factors that might influence the leniency or severity of the sentence.
    On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Cue the endless appeals!
    Probably, but the Biden campaign being able to plaster the words ”convicted felon Trump” everywhere has a good chance of being enough to keep him out of office all the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    The judge isn't going to let Trump get away with appealing himself into freedom
    It does sound like the judge in this case has had more than his share of bullshit. Maybe the strategy of filing dozens of meritless motions and screaming into the microphones wasn't such a great idea.

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    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...on-1235030249/

    In recent weeks, some on the legal team, including the president himself, convinced themselves that one of the jurors might have actually been on their side.

    Body language from the juror throughout the trial, studied closed by the former president’s counselors, led some to believe that the juror was warming to the defense’s views. The warm smiles and tics, they hoped, suggested that there could be a hung jury that would help Trump evade conviction.

    According to two people familiar with the matter, Trump’s faith in the amateur body language analysis of the supposedly MAGA-curious juror was so pronounced that at times he took to calling them “my juror” in discussions with close allies.

    Even as the jury deliberated, some in Trumpland were still assessing whether or not they had a diehard supporter on the panel. “I think the juror is going to get beat up in the jury room,” one Trump adviser said to Rolling Stone shortly before news of the verdict hit, wondering “how strong” the juror would be.
    Oh my fucking god people actually believe the bullshit TV "body language experts" that news channels pointlessly bring out every once in a while.

    This is fucking glorious, and also why you should never listen to a "body language expert".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    people actually believe the bullshit TV "body language experts"
    Well I mean, body language is a real thing. But when it comes to what happens in a courtroom, I might side with the many, many lawyers who said things like "the defense Trump is trying will not work" over someone who says "I'm not a lawyer, but Juror #4 is slouching, that means hung jury"

  18. #90718
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump...b08f9fa13ff7a3

    More tears and lies from Republican lawmakers and conservative media. They're so fucking mad.

  19. #90719
    The level of cope and seethe from Trumpanzees on social media is at astonishing levels.

    "You just guaranteed Trump wins in November" appears to be the popular take.

    That being the case, why didn't he lose on purpose then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drutt View Post
    That being the case, why didn't he lose on purpose then?
    If you've been reading this thread, it's reasonable to assume he did. His legal team made multiple unforced errors, again. And I might be wrong, but I don't think you can appeal on the grounds of "I should have done something different".

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