Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Dontrike]

So, in case anyone was debating on the Clown Show that exists around Donald Trump.

Back on 5/31/24, a facebook user posted that his cousin was a juror and told him that Trump was going to be ruled on as guilty. (Source: https://www.newsweek.com/maga-demand...mation-1909960) And now MAGA is up in arms as this shows it was fixed! And the judge is looking into this post and hearing arguments about it. The issue? The account that posted is clearly just crapposting, it is joke account and clearly so.

Also, people are saying "This is grounds for a mistrial!" which is hilarious because you have to prove the result could/would have been different if the event didn't happen. Like this is crazy

It's already been proven to be a shitpost, so we'll see if the poster gets any consequences and have another bit of evidence that Trump is fucking dumb enough to believe a random post on the internet.

[Kaleredar]

How dare she cite the BIBLE to promote tolerance and love for everyone. [/i]

Yeah, I mean "let he who is without sin cast the first stone," what nobody in the bible said tha-

Ohhhhh


These clods citing obtuse interpretations of "scripture" as their reason to judge and vilify others and hand waving away a bible verse directly attributed to Jesus who explicitly says, and to paraphrase by using another Jesus quote, "judge not, lest ye be judged." It's so close to parody it rounds back around.


Dolly Parton has the better idea, here. Maybe use the bible to dictate how one lives their own life, and not use it to judge others. Because there are probably a lot of ways they come up short. "Thou shalt not commit adultery" should really be something they're thinking about heavily these days. But their spokesperson, the guy they say stands for everything they say, do, and believe, flagrantly violating one of the ten commandments seems to mean nothing to them, or to the fact that they willingly support someone who has done such a thing. Repeatedly.

[En Sabah Nur]

Donald Trump “One Of Worst Public Speakers Ever,” Says ‘Lord Of The Rings’ Star Ian McKellen

Donald Trump is clearly many things, but one thing he’s not is a great orator, according to one of Britain’s great acting knights of the realm, Ian McKellen.

The stage and screen veteran, best known overseas for his role of Gandalf in Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings trilogy, told The Times of London that he found the presidential hopeful “an absolute bewilderment.” McKellen told the paper:

“I haven’t seen him live. But he’s one of the worst public speakers there has ever been. Whether he’s reading a script or not, it’s so patent what he is.”

85-year-old McKellen, currently playing Falstaff on stage in the UK, said great powers of oratory may be thing of the past:

“I remember leaving my school [in Bolton] in the sixth form and cycling down to the town square to see [1950s Welsh Labour Party politician] Aneurin Bevan on the hustings without a microphone. There aren’t any great orators like that around, are there?” and he added that politicians “don’t spend enough time looking at themselves and saying, ‘Well, I didn’t believe that person.’”

Is Gandalf about to be the new right wing target because of this brief comment?

He's not wrong, though. Have you guys watched Trump recently? There is actual danger of falling into such a deep sleep that you just die.

[Breccia]

"But he’s one of the worst public speakers there has ever been."

A wizard is neither forgiving nor harsh. They diss precisely who they mean to.

[Shadowferal]

Trump claims mobs of 500 people are raiding stores to steal air conditioners

“You go to some of these department stores, 500 people walk into the stores, they walk out with air conditioners — they strip the whole store,” Trump said in a nearly hourlong, off-the-cuff address to Turning Point Action in Arizona while railing against the Biden administration’s policies. “The company goes out of business, the store is vacant for 25 years. The whole city becomes a slum.”

He alleged that “gangs of hundreds of young” people regularly “attack” department stores and walk out with “big stuff” like refrigerators and air conditioners, during the NRA-ILA Leadership Forum in Indianapolis last year.

“As an example, when you see these gangs of hundreds of young, usually young people go and attack a department store, department stores in San Francisco and Los Angeles and Chicago, and they run in by the hundreds and they’re running out carrying refrigerators and carrying air conditioners and big stuff,” he said.

The usual incoherence..

[Edge-]

Is Gandalf about to be the new right wing target because of this brief comment?

He's an outspoken, out, gay man so he kinda already was.

[Poopymonster]

He's an outspoken, out, gay man so he kinda already was.

You do NOT fuck with Magneto.

[Breccia]

The usual incoherence.

It is not just here. This is an exact quote from the Dr. Phil interview:

So two things. Number one, I don’t like thinking about it. Out of sight, out of mind. I don’t know if that makes sense. I don’t want to think about it.

Number two, I have tremendous support. I have the people’s support. I think if I didn’t, I wouldn’t be able to handle it so easily.

When a judge who who has, conflicts like nobody’s ever had wants to put me in jail when he puts a gag order and say, if you talk about these things, we’re going to put you in jail. And I’m I’m the Republican candidate, I was president, I’m leading the Democrat by a lot. Wants to put me in jail.

I like not to think about it.

It’s like they say, oh, don’t eat that food. Don’t eat this food. Don’t do this, don’t do that. They don’t really know! It might be good for you. Might not be bad. It might be good.

“They say it causes cancer!”.

I say don’t talk to me about– I don’t want to hear the word. I don’t want to. It’s out of sight. Out of mind.

I think I have a very good disposition for– for trauma. But I have great support.

The one thing is because you mentioned a lot of groups and you’re right about that, but I also have great support within the media.

You know, there’s a group of people in the media. You might be one of them. You’re a very important force.

Donald Trump is a cancer denier. Explains his COVID response, I guess.

Is "out of sight, out of mind" the philosophy you want in a world leader? Someone, start this conversation going. I'll ask a poster at random, one who's been active in these forums and takes these posts seriously. @tehdang do you think "out of sight, out of mind" is a philosophy that is appropriate for a world leader? If you don't answer, I'll answer for you.

Well, Trump didn't mean it. Maybe he's just tired. Maybe he needs to get some coffee. Anyone know where he can get some coffee?

Giuliani is now selling coffee on Twitter.

They're bankrupt.

In May, Giuliani launched Rudy Coffee, a signature coffee line with politically-themed flavors like “Fighting for Justice” and “America’s Mayor.”

His partner in the venture is Burke Brands, the South Florida-based maker and distributor of Don Pablo coffee, The Daily Beast reported.

In December of 2022, Burke itself filed for Chapter 11, almost exactly a year before Giuliani filed for bankruptcy in December 2023, after he was ordered to pay $148m to Georgia election workers in a defamation case.

A lawyer for the coffee brand told the South Florida Business Journal in May that the bankruptcy was the result of Burke facing a cash crunch during the pandemic and having to turn to high-interest lenders.

As recently as last month, the company was describing itself as having emerged from Chapter 11 and saved its 75 employees’ jobs.

“They kept their customers, especially their main ones at Costco and Sam’s Club and online,” attorney Aaron Wernick told the journal.

However, later that month, on May 17, the company sought to modify a court-approved plan to pay back hundreds of thousands of dollars to creditors in two large installments, instead asking for monthly payments.

Wernick insisted to The Daily Beast the modification was unrelated to Giuliani’s separate bankruptcy case.

“It had completely to do with the fact that we had scheduled all our general and unsecured creditor payments for the beginning of the year, and we wanted to have them spread out,” he said. “It’s easier on cash flow to have monthly payments rather than big chunks.”

"We're not bankrupt, we just can't pay what we owe" isn't a great defense.

[postman1782]

So, in case anyone was debating on the Clown Show that exists around Donald Trump.

Back on 5/31/24, a facebook user posted that his cousin was a juror and told him that Trump was going to be ruled on as guilty. (Source: https://www.newsweek.com/maga-demand...mation-1909960) And now MAGA is up in arms as this shows it was fixed! And the judge is looking into this post and hearing arguments about it. The issue? The account that posted is clearly just crapposting, it is joke account and clearly so.

Also, people are saying "This is grounds for a mistrial!" which is hilarious because you have to prove the result could/would have been different if the event didn't happen. Like this is crazy

Also, as @Breccia was saying, the post has been proven to have been made by a professional shit poster on Facebook, he isn't related to anyone on the jury.

[Flarelaine]

Donald Trump “One Of Worst Public Speakers Ever,” Says ‘Lord Of The Rings’ Star Ian McKellen

Is Gandalf about to be the new right wing target because of this brief comment?

I would be surprised if they had not already taken shots at him. He is Gandalf the Gay, after all.

[Shadowferal]

I would be surprised if they had not already taken shots at him. He is Gandalf the Gay, after all.

Lets not forget Saruman of Many Colors.

[Paranoid Android]

I'm bored so let's speculate.

Trump's potential VP picks just received vetting documents. Here's who got the papers.

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum, South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott and Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance have received vetting materials and are the candidates most frequently discussed internally by Trump and his campaign, a source familiar with the process said, but added that the former president may still choose another candidate. NBC News first reported a winnowing of the field.

Not going to do whole list but just a few.

Hmm? Is Tim Scott the guy? I think guess Republicans believe having a black person on the ticket will sway voters? There will probably be a somewhat small swing of more black voters to Trump this election. Idk if Scott is going to put them over the top.

JD Vance? Not even a full 1 term Senator, idk.

I would have never mentioned Doug Burgum before this but if they taking a white guy, he might be it. The vanilla white business man, billionaire who Trump may like for this.

Now these I guess are not vetted yet but...

Byron Donald. This dude might be on the same level of Tim Scott, but as not as sexy(?). His latest take of "Black people were better off during Jim Crow" is such sweeeeet candy for the white voter. Once more like Scott, Republicans who always project about Identity Politics, are playing it.

Elise Stefanik. Speaking of Identity. Republicans need a woman candidate here right? There are a few and since my champion who I thought had this wrapped up in Kristi Noem is gone, Stefanik seems to be the choice. She will say anything to get Trump's attention.

I researched and there are other names that will probably get vetted, but this is good for now.

[Flarelaine]

JD Vance? Not even a full 1 term Senator, idk.

Neither was Obama, as far as I recall.

Byron Donald. This dude might be on the same level of Tim Scott, but as not as sexy(?). His latest take of "Black people were better off during Jim Crow" is such sweeeeet candy for the white voter. Once more like Scott, Republicans who always project about Identity Politics, are playing it.

Donalds is from Florida, so can't be on the ticket.

[Benggaul]

Donalds is from Florida, so can't be on the ticket.

As is Rubio.

[Breccia]

She will say anything to get Trump's attention.

Agreed. I really wish that would come back to bite her -- preferably, by her ditching her Rep post to become his VP candidate and lose.

[Paranoid Android]

Neither was Obama, as far as I recall.




Donalds is from Florida, so can't be on the ticket.

So is Rubio. They can move, make shit up. Don't matter.

Edit: Obama ran as President. But my take was he doesn't have much national political clout. Again this is just commentary it's not like that is the worst thing ever.

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Agreed. I really wish that would come back to bite her -- preferably, by her ditching her Rep post to become his VP candidate and lose.

Your Rep. might be in the drivers seat? Idk as far as women candidates there are any better for Republicans. The Alabama Witt shit the bed on State of the Union rebuttal. Maybe some other.

[Breccia]

Your Rep. might be in the drivers seat?

There's a gap here that's narrower than I care for.

1) Trump will never put a woman in charge of anything he deems important.
2) Trump needs to win or he suffers the consequences of his actions.

I think Stefanik is so eager to be part of the Trump inner circle, that she'd promise to do anything.

Anything.

Yes, I'm implying what you think I am. But I also think this includes signing a contract to do whatever he wants -- no matter how unenforceable that is. She would swear to be his loyal, well, puppet/slave.

[Xyonai]

I'm bored so let's speculate.

Trump's potential VP picks just received vetting documents. Here's who got the papers.



Not going to do whole list but just a few.

Hmm? Is Tim Scott the guy? I think guess Republicans believe having a black person on the ticket will sway voters? There will probably be a somewhat small swing of more black voters to Trump this election. Idk if Scott is going to put them over the top.

JD Vance? Not even a full 1 term Senator, idk.

I would have never mentioned Doug Burgum before this but if they taking a white guy, he might be it. The vanilla white business man, billionaire who Trump may like for this.

Now these I guess are not vetted yet but...

Byron Donald. This dude might be on the same level of Tim Scott, but as not as sexy(?). His latest take of "Black people were better off during Jim Crow" is such sweeeeet candy for the white voter. Once more like Scott, Republicans who always project about Identity Politics, are playing it.

Elise Stefanik. Speaking of Identity. Republicans need a woman candidate here right? There are a few and since my champion who I thought had this wrapped up in Kristi Noem is gone, Stefanik seems to be the choice. She will say anything to get Trump's attention.

I researched and there are other names that will probably get vetted, but this is good for now.

Trump's also so desperate to be liked that he'll probably pick his VP with that criteria in mind first, focusing on someone who's already inundated in the MAGA cult nonsense rather than simply just paying lip service to it.

So him going for someone like Vance, an inexperienced senator from a battleground-ish state who's one of Peter Thiel's only successful pet projects, isn't entirely out of the question. But Stefanik is more of a thoughtless sycophant, which Trump might be looking for more so he doesn't have another Pence 'situation', and has the bonus points of being a woman so the republican party can leverage that bit of their current culture war shrieking.

[Gorsameth]

the #1 requirement is devotion to Trump. He wants a VP that will tear up the constitution in his name and who would start a literal civil war to keep him in power.

Trumps entire thought process will be "if my last VP had been loyal I would be President today"

[Breccia]

Trumps entire thought process will be "if my last VP had been loyal I would be President today"

Such apt characterization. No reasonable person would look at how Trump has treated Pence starting Jan 7, 2021, and think otherwise.