Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Orange Joe]

You think I needed to specifically comment on Trump being braindead?

Nah, bruv, I got it. It wasn't a complicated message.




No, I definitely meant gasoline, and I definitely meant both flammable and explosive. It can't even ignite without an air source mixing with the vapor, and it doesn't explode unless the concentration of the vapor in the vapor/air mix gets high enough, which pretty much requires a larger enclosed container (that also has air in it). If the gas is submerged, good luck getting enough vapor and air together to ignite, even with a flame, let alone a weak electrical current.

Science is fun:

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But this is getting off-topic; it was just meant to be a quick note about how even less of an issue the batteries might be. And lest another forum mall cop start thinking again that I'm missing some other obvious point that doesn't really require addressing, I'll just cut this tangent short.

Toodles.

I work with gas very often. and have started many fires with gas. Gas in a cup will very much start on fire with a quick touch of flame.


That video is of a cigarette, not a open flame.






Here is a video of gas being light on fire with a match.

[masterhorus8]

I work with gas very often. and have started many fires with gas. Gas in a cup will very much start on fire with a quick touch of flame.


That video is of a cigarette, not a open flame.






Here is a video of gas being light on fire with a match.

Just for reference, that's a relatively small amount of gasoline, so the oxygen/gasoline ratio is about what it needs. But very large quantities of gasoline aren't instantly flammable because there's frequently not enough oxygen to combust with.

[Orange Joe]

Just for reference, that's a relatively small amount of gasoline, so the oxygen/gasoline ratio is about what it needs. But very large quantities of gasoline aren't instantly flammable because there's frequently not enough oxygen to combust with.

You could do the same with a 55 gallon drum of gas. GAS IS FLAMMABLE.



I honestly can't believe this is actually a debate in 2024......

[masterhorus8]

You could do the same with a 55 gallon drum of gas. GAS IS FLAMMABLE.



I honestly can't believe this is actually a debate in 2024......

Yes, I am surprised we're having this debate in 2024. You do know combustion requires oxygen, yes? Or did you completely skip over what I said? And no, you can't with a 55 gallon drum. You can light the vapors on fire, though.

[Orange Joe]

Yes, I am surprised we're having this debate in 2024. You do know combustion requires oxygen, yes? Or did you completely skip over what I said? And no, you can't with a 55 gallon drum. You can light the vapors on fire, though.

Do you know of a place on earth that is a natural vacuum with no oxygen? Cause i'm fairly certain over 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the earth is covered in oxygen.

[masterhorus8]

Do you know of a place on earth that is a natural vacuum with no oxygen? Cause i'm fairly certain over 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the earth is covered in oxygen.

Not close enough to the gasoline though. Air doesn't move instantly. All of the oxygen isn't instantly in contact with the gasoline. For every 1 gallon of gasoline, you need about 14 "gallons" of oxygen. Like, dude. Just take the L and go watch Mythbusters...

[Kaleredar]

why the fuck are we arguing about the semantics of gasoline as part of Trump's insane driveling.


You don't always need to be right about stupid nonsense on the internet.

[masterhorus8]

why the fuck are we arguing about the semantics of gasoline as part of Trump's insane driveling.


You don't always need to be right about stupid nonsense on the internet.

Cause politics are so flammable.

[Orange Joe]

Not close enough to the gasoline though. Air doesn't move instantly. All of the oxygen isn't instantly in contact with the gasoline. For every 1 gallon of gasoline, you need about 14 "gallons" of oxygen. Like, dude. Just take the L and go watch Mythbusters...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvDXNC3I9qc


Mybusters agree with me. Gas is very flammable. 50lbs gallons combusted with a spark, no "extra oxygen" needed.


Anyways. You go ahead and thing gas isn't flammable if you want. Didn't think this was actually not known in 2024.

[gondrin]

why the fuck are we arguing about the semantics of gasoline as part of Trump's insane driveling.


You don't always need to be right about stupid nonsense on the internet.

Because it makes about as much sense as reading what Trump actually says. If you were to make a random username on 4chan and just post what Trump actually says there but without any mention that it was from Trump, you would think it would fit right in on that site.

[diller]

Just for reference, that's a relatively small amount of gasoline, so the oxygen/gasoline ratio is about what it needs. But very large quantities of gasoline aren't instantly flammable because there's frequently not enough oxygen to combust with.

It is though, gasoline gives off vapors even at low temperatures and the vapors are highly flammable.

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Toodles.

You are wrong though.

[Breccia]

At some point, we passed a critical point with Trump.

Trump on Tuesday said an article published by the Washington Post implying he’d consider a mandatory military service rule at the urging of some in his inner circle is "completely untrue" and that he's "never even thought" of instituting a national service requirement.

Trump is referring to this non-OP-ED piece in the Washington Post. Specifically, about a non anonymous person Trump hired on purpose, acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller, so this is after Trump fairly and legally lost the election but was still in the act of trying to hold onto power despite fairly and legally losing the election, which cost him Esper.

Miller was apparently one of several Trump hires who were specifically and directly seriously discussing mandatory service.

The WaPo article also points out that J. D. Vance, high on the list of Trump VP picks, has suggested mandatory military service in non-wartimes.

Forbes, TheHill, and other sources tried to contact the Trump campaign and were all told nothing of value. Specifically, they were told only Trump sets policy, not that the story was false, and not that the campaign opposed such a measure.

"Why was this a critical point?"

Imagine in any other year, with any other candidate who had not voiced such an opinion, a source as strong as WaPo flat-out saying "this politician backs mandatory military service". They would either check their sources, or hold back the article until comment was made. Now, WaPo just goes with the craziest things people say about Trump, because they keep getting proven true. The Washington Post is conservative. They don't want Biden elected. And they still ran this.

Trump's word has lost meaning and value. His stance on the issue is being deemed irrelevant. If someone next to Trump says something, and Trump denies it, Trump's denial is handwaved.

Some of you aren't just electing a convicted felon. You're electing someone even you know lies all the time about everything.

@tehdang has 24 hours to comment on, as a known Trump supporter, his stance on mandatory military service and his stance on Trump's discussed private support of it, by virtue of wanting to keep both Miller and pick up Vance who both support it. Failure to do so means I get to quote tehdang as supporting mandatory military service, a reasonable conclusion when he supports a candidate who supports this measure.

[Edge-]

New fundraising email just dropped.

Can we? Please?

[Benggaul]

New fundraising email just dropped.

Can we? Please?

Sung to the tune of Roll Out the Barrel.

[Drutt]

"Beheaded head".... as opposed to a beheaded what, exactly?

[Edge-]

"Beheaded head".... as opposed to a beheaded what, exactly?

Honestly I didn't even read that far down but they're still triggered over that one time she did that and got #Canceled? I thought they'd have rallied around another #Victim of #CancelCulture?

[gondrin]

"Beheaded head".... as opposed to a beheaded what, exactly?

As opposed to a bebodied body.

[Belize]

My money's on him being blind as fuck. I'd also bet they were going to do a test run with Trump to make sure he could see the teleprompter but he didn't want to help them do their job.

Do you think poor eyesight might be a result of *checks notes* staring into a fucking eclipse

[Odinfrost]

"Beheaded head".... as opposed to a beheaded what, exactly?

Toad from Mario Kart

[Templar 331]

Do you think poor eyesight might be a result of *checks notes* staring into a fucking eclipse

I have a feeling that wasn't his first time staring into the sun.