Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Gigantique]

I mean, fucking seriously. Forget removed, she should have been impeached, hauled in front of a disciplinary panel and stripped of her robe and gavel for blatant partisan hackery and complete disregard for the rule of law ages ago.....

Which requires the legislative to be objective and not play politically which is probably the best joke I have ever put to the written word.

I pre-emptively apologise for the bursts of drink sprayed across every computer screen from imagining them doing that.

[Edge-]

https://www.salon.com/2024/06/25/its...ents-subpoena/

Former President Donald Trump tried to obstruct the criminal investigation into the classified documents stashed at his Mar-a-Lago estate by getting his lawyers to lie about the documents that were subpoenaed in May 2022, asking them repeatedly if it would be "better if we just told them we don't have anything here," according to audio notes reviewed by ABC News.

The recording, from then-Trump attorney Evan Corcoran, could be used as evidence of the former president's criminal intent. But that is up to Judge Aileen Cannon, who could rule that the notes are subject to attorney-client privilege. Another federal judge last year ruled that prosecutors could obtain the recording as part of their effort to show Trump misled his own attorneys in an effort to effectively make them accomplices.

Corcoran’s notes detail Trump blaming his legal difficulties on his “political enemies." They may support prosecutors' claims that Trump attempted to defy the subpoena that allowed federal agents to eventually seize 102 classified documents — including 17 top secret documents — in the August 2022 on his Mar-a-Lago estate.

"Well look, isn't it better if there are no documents?" Trump asked at one point, per Corcoran's notes. The former president, who faces more than 40 felony counts, has pleaded not guilty.

Before agents stormed his Florida estate, Trump met with Corcoran and attorney Jennifer Little for an hour and a half meeting, where he brought a box filled with newspaper clippings, Post-it notes, photos and other materials.

"I don't want anybody looking, I don't want anybody looking through my boxes, I really don't, I don't want you looking through my boxes," Trump said, according to Corcoran’s notes. "Look, I just don't want anybody going through these things."

The notes show that Little and Corcoran repeatedly warned the presumptive Republican nominee about the consequences of not complying, saying “it's going to be a crime.”

Oh no, Donald was warned he was going to be engaged in doing the crime by his lawyer and chose to do the crime anyways.

Also, they weren't his boxes and things. They were government property which he stole and refused to return.

[masterhorus8]

Looks like the gag order on Trump was partially lifted, allowing him to harass the jurors more. My favorite part is that he and his attorneys are still complaining that it prevents him from talking about the judge... Which it never and still doesn't prevent.

[Edge-]

Looks like the gag order on Trump was partially lifted, allowing him to harass the jurors more. My favorite part is that he and his attorneys are still complaining that it prevents him from talking about the judge... Which it never and still doesn't prevent.

Honestly mystified by this partial lifting of the gag order and wondering what attacking witnesses or jurors has to do with a presidential debate?

[DarkTZeratul]

Honestly mystified by this partial lifting of the gag order and wondering what attacking witnesses or jurors has to do with a presidential debate?

It's because the witnesses and jurors are no longer involved, so there's no legal reason to maintain the gag order for them, much as the judge wanted to. It's why it's still in place for the various court officials until after the sentencing takes place.

[Breccia]

Honestly mystified by this partial lifting of the gag order and wondering what attacking witnesses or jurors has to do with a presidential debate?

Easy. When Biden says "you're a convicted felon" Trump needs to be able to say "nuuh Cohen was a liar"

[Edge-]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/polit...ant/index.html

Surprising absolutely nobody except maybe Judge Cannon and Donald's defense teem, Judge Cannon appears extremely skeptical of the argument that "The FBI warrant was unlawful because we say so."

She hasn't issued an opinion on this yet, though, as she needs more time to hear and consider arguments that, "The FBI warrant was unlawful because we say so." is valid or not.

Very novel, unique, challenging stuff.

[Kaleredar]

Easy. When Biden says "you're a convicted felon" Trump needs to be able to say "nuuh Cohen was a liar"

I mean… say what he will, but it won’t change the fact that he’s a convicted felon.


Plus, I’d think him saying that the jurors/witnesses were bribed or some other accusation of malfeasance would be grounds for them to sue him for slander.

[Edge-]

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/28/supr...empt-case.html

Woah, almost to page 2!

Anyways, SCOTUS rejected Bannon's effort to stay outta jail on Monday. Unless House Republicans figure something out, Steve may die of withdrawals from alcohol while in prison. Thoughts and prayers.

[Breccia]

Anyways, SCOTUS rejected Bannon's effort to stay outta jail on Monday.

I really hope that when people find out about all the criminal shit I did, that I get as many trials to stay out of jail as Bannon.

Oh, wait. Sorry, I forgot. I'm not going to jail because I'm not a criminal.

[Edge-]

Oh, wait. Sorry, I forgot. I'm not going to jail because I'm not a criminal.

Tell us your ways, how have you managed to avoid doing the crime all this time?! What's your secret?!

[Poopymonster]

Tell us your ways, how have you managed to avoid doing the crime all this time?! What's your secret?!

The type of crimes listed in this thread?
Did you forget he gets a teacher's salary, those crimes are out of his financial means.
That's not a knock on the Killa B, but few of us could afford the types of crimes that let you delay shit this long.

[Karreck]

Oh, wait. Sorry, I forgot. I'm not going to jail because I'm not a criminal.

Yet. Pretty sure several of us will appear on a list somewhere should Trump win.

[Mayhem]

Yet. Pretty sure several of us will appear on a list somewhere should Trump win.

He despises at least 60% of the country, and that's ignoring pretty much every white male democrat voter. I mean, how he can get even enough votes to be the front-runner is beyond me.

[Captain N]

He despises at least 60% of the country, and that's ignoring pretty much every white male democrat voter. I mean, how he can get even enough votes to be the front-runner is beyond me.

That's really the question for not only Trump but for Conservatives in general. How can you claim to be a patriot who loves their country when you hate everyone in it that's not white, male, and faux-Christian?

[Poopymonster]

That's really the question for not only Trump but for Conservatives in general. How can you claim to be a patriot who loves their country when you hate everyone in it that's not white, male, and faux-Christian?

Those aren't Real Americans.
To some of them, they aren't even people.

[Gorsameth]

That's really the question for not only Trump but for Conservatives in general. How can you claim to be a patriot who loves their country when you hate everyone in it that's not white, male, and faux-Christian?

Your talking about a group of people that proudly wave the flag of literal traitors.
They wouldn't know an actual patriot if it hit them in the face.

[Gigantique]

Your talking about a group of people that proudly wave the flag of literal traitors.
They wouldn't know an actual patriot if it hit them in the face.

They're usually gun nuts so they might recognise a Patriot missile hitting them in the face!

[Celista]

Anyone watch the debates? I am legit afraid to do so. Heard they were arguing about their golf handicap for awhile and Trump of all people said they were acting childish.

[masterhorus8]

Anyone watch the debates? I am legit afraid to do so. Heard they were arguing about their golf handicap for awhile and Trump of all people said they were acting childish.

Not really worth it, imo. Biden was acting old, Trump lied every time he opened his mouth. I was curious about the fact checking afterwards, and Trump literally lied about every claim he made, while Biden was about 50/50, with everything he got wrong having some sort of basis for it, albeit still wrong.